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nash
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 Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:01 pm Post subject: Just a crazy idea |
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I just saw this Kobe interview:
"In all honesty, it was tough, the shots that I take, pullup shots and jumpers and contested jumpers -- those are tough shots to hit at 27," Bryant said. "It's very tough to hit at 37. I've got to do a better job of demanding some help off the ball, get some easier chances -- pin-downs, picks, catch-and-shoots, things of that nature. Tonight was just very frustrating. It kind of got the better of me."
"Frustration kind of got to me," Bryant said. "The fact that -- the way I played, the way I shot, blowing coverages defensively, coming down offensively and not having concept of what we're trying to do. It just kind of got to me a little bit and frustrated me, and it affected my shot."
It is looking like subtle jabs at our coaching staff, so let me ask you guys the crazy question, may Kobe retire and coach the team the remaining of the season?
He is not the player he once was, but I'm sure he can teach the younglings one or two things. After all, how can it get worse? |
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| ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
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Kobe would make a good offensive assistant or video guy. Head coach? Nah.
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| LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
yup. Larry Bird is the only exception. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Just a crazy idea |
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| nash wrote: | I just saw this Kobe interview:
"In all honesty, it was tough, the shots that I take, pullup shots and jumpers and contested jumpers -- those are tough shots to hit at 27," Bryant said. "It's very tough to hit at 37. I've got to do a better job of demanding some help off the ball, get some easier chances -- pin-downs, picks, catch-and-shoots, things of that nature. Tonight was just very frustrating. It kind of got the better of me."
"Frustration kind of got to me," Bryant said. "The fact that -- the way I played, the way I shot, blowing coverages defensively, coming down offensively and not having concept of what we're trying to do. It just kind of got to me a little bit and frustrated me, and it affected my shot."
It is looking like subtle jabs at our coaching staff, so let me ask you guys the crazy question, may Kobe retire and coach the team the remaining of the season?
He is not the player he once was, but I'm sure he can teach the younglings one or two things. After all, how can it get worse? |
This is the second time in the last week that Kobe has taken a subtle jab at the coaching staff. He might have the stroke to get the FO to do something.
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| LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
I think that Kareem would have been a great coach if someone had given him the chance. Bird wasn't too bad either.
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| LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
MWP (+ his psychiatrist) for Lakers head coach |
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| I think Kobe would be an amazing coach. He could teach some of these young guys about having that competitive fire. Honestly Kobe still has some left in the tank though, not retiring till he has that 6th ring!! |
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| That would be epic, the Kobe death stare from the bench but no Kobe doesn't seem like the coach type. Alphas usually aren't the type to teach. He's more Darth then he is Obi Won |
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| LakersLegacy24 wrote: | | I think Kobe would be an amazing coach. He could teach some of these young guys about having that competitive fire. Honestly Kobe still has some left in the tank though, not retiring till he has that 6th ring!! |
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| frijolero01 wrote: | | LakersLegacy24 wrote: | | I think Kobe would be an amazing coach. He could teach some of these young guys about having that competitive fire. Honestly Kobe still has some left in the tank though, not retiring till he has that 6th ring!! |
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Do you expect him to win with this awful roster our crappy FO has built for him? Not to mention he has probably the worst coach in the league and is clearly not healthy. When he is completely healthy and the Lakers land a big FA this offseason he will be leading them to ring #6 in a few years. |
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| LakersLegacy24 wrote: | | frijolero01 wrote: | | LakersLegacy24 wrote: | | I think Kobe would be an amazing coach. He could teach some of these young guys about having that competitive fire. Honestly Kobe still has some left in the tank though, not retiring till he has that 6th ring!! |
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Do you expect him to win with this awful roster our crappy FO has built for him? Not to mention he has probably the worst coach in the league and is clearly not healthy. When he is completely healthy and the Lakers land a big FA this offseason he will be leading them to ring #6 in a few years. |
Man... it's ok. I'm sure someone will start an intervention thread that'll help all those having a tough time coping with the loss of the Kobe we used to know. You're in denial right now, and definitely the anger is setting in with the placing blame on everyone else... you'll eventually come to bargaining with the reality and some depression will eventually set in before you'll accept it friend. We're all at different stages right now you're just at the start its OK.  |
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| D'Angelo also said, in response to Kobe's comment, that he'd be willing to give Kobe pindowns, etc., but it's not within the system. |
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| LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
yeah but you know what, for some crazy reason I think Kobe could be an exception to this belief. I mean he is a lot like Jordan, but at the same time, he is total opposite of him in a lot of ways imo. I think he has showed that a lot this season with the way he has humbled himself, praising, encouraging the young players, being real with the media, etc. He seems like a very analytical guy but nature too, which is good right??? |
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At the very least hire Kobe in a player development role. He can stay at home, schedule sessions at his whim, and be able to teach some of what he has learned to younger players. He has mentioned many times during his own career that it was tutoring from vets that helped him expand his game, now he could give back. And best of all, Jeannie can pay him $25 mil to do so and not affect the salary cap.
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| Kobe definitely should be considering what he will do with his post playing career. he loves basketball too much to just walk away from it completely i feel |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | At the very least hire Kobe in a player development role. He can stay at home, schedule sessions at his whim, and be able to teach some of what he has learned to younger players. He has mentioned many times during his own career that it was tutoring from vets that helped him expand his game, now he could give back. And best of all, Jeannie can pay him $25 mil to do so and not affect the salary cap. |
Not a bad idea. I really can't see Kobe in a head coaching role. As someone else stated, the star players typically make poor coaches.
The best coaches always seem to be more of the role player ilk who spent a lot of time on the bench learning from their coaches, absorbing all that is going on, etc.
Is there a trend of star players making good player development type "coaches"? I'm not aware of any particulars, but I do know many notable players have been successful in that type of capacity. |
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| frijolero01 wrote: | | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
yup. Larry Bird is the only exception. |
There are some Hall of Fame players who became Hall of Fame coaches -- Bill Sharman and Lenny Wilkens come to mind. But they were from a different generation, and it's probably harder now to deal with superstars making so much money and calling the shots.
The best coaches have not only great basketball knowledge, but they are superb salesman and know what people buttons to push. |
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| LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
can't comment on West cuz i'm too young, but i don't think Magic has great basketball IQ like Kobe does. Kobe understands the game inside and out. what he does on the court is debatable but from his post game interviews, Kobe's basketball intellect is better than Magic imo. being a coach would make him channel that same competitiveness we love to hate at this moment to focusing on Xs and Os, on motivating players. i think Kobe can surprise a lot of people and being a great coach. |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
can't comment on West cuz i'm too young, but i don't think Magic has great basketball IQ like Kobe does. Kobe understands the game inside and out. what he does on the court is debatable but from his post game interviews, Kobe's basketball intellect is better than Magic imo. being a coach would make him channel that same competitiveness we love to hate at this moment to focusing on Xs and Os, on motivating players. i think Kobe can surprise a lot of people and being a great coach. |
For some reason I don't see Kobe riding off in to the sunset and disappearing and I don't see him as an entrepreneur/broadcaster type either. |
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| He could hire Kwame Brown as an assistant coach |
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| Kobe says he doesn't want to coach but i actually think he'd make a surprisingly good HC. Most stars aren't good HC's but most stars didn't spend so many years with a guy like PJ. I think Kobe has shown plenty of times he can be a teacher on the court. Give Kobe a star player and he'd probably be able have his team run the triangle through that player. His super competitive drive would be good too and it'd allow his players to focus on the game and not the refs because Im sure Kobe would go to bat for his guys. If he got into it right away he'd be young enough to relate to his players as well. If he hired the right assistants, I don't see why not. Kobe knows he aint getting 6, but there's other ways he can separate himself from other legends in terms of overall basketball legacy. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Just a crazy idea |
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| nash wrote: | I just saw this Kobe interview:
"In all honesty, it was tough, the shots that I take, pullup shots and jumpers and contested jumpers -- those are tough shots to hit at 27," Bryant said. "It's very tough to hit at 37. I've got to do a better job of demanding some help off the ball, get some easier chances -- pin-downs, picks, catch-and-shoots, things of that nature. Tonight was just very frustrating. It kind of got the better of me."
"Frustration kind of got to me," Bryant said. "The fact that -- the way I played, the way I shot, blowing coverages defensively, coming down offensively and not having concept of what we're trying to do. It just kind of got to me a little bit and frustrated me, and it affected my shot."
It is looking like subtle jabs at our coaching staff, so let me ask you guys the crazy question, may Kobe retire and coach the team the remaining of the season?
He is not the player he once was, but I'm sure he can teach the younglings one or two things. After all, how can it get worse? |
Magic part 2; nooooooo thanks. Kobe loves those iso's; just hang that crap up. Kobe need to retire and find a new gig. Lakers don't need another player that's clueless about coaching, motivating, developing, Etc...
Just no...
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| frijolero01 wrote: | | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | ^^^ tell you the truth, i think Kobe would be a great head coach. once he replaces jersey with suits, you'd see kobe applying that competitive drive in other areas such as motivating, recruiting and game managing. |
Guys like Kobe make horrible coaches, they expect the players to be like themselves. I saw it from West and Magic, just complete failures. Best coaches are those guys who were journeyman players or defensive specialists that had the experience from many coaches. |
yup. Larry Bird is the only exception. |
Lenny Wilkens, Bill Russell. |
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