Really is bizarre - the other poster was definitely telling the truth about Sixers fans. About 60-70% of them are defending what he did.
Old hat. Chuck. He and Jayson Williams got into a bar scrap where J-Will conked a fellow patron with a beer mug. Those two actually did worse than JO.
Chuck once threw a guy through a plate glass window at a club.
I saw Chuck's SportsCentury epi on YT about a month ago. He went over that and the spitting incident and the other stuff he pulled to get out of Philly. It wasn't as violent an offense as advertised, apparently Idiot #2 fell backwards into a glass case or somethin. Media made it seem like WW3. However, not to absolve Chuck, he said he decided to snap on Idiot 2 because he didn't feel like getting heckled, basically the same thing as this Okafor fracas.
As an aside, Jayson Williams going to Philly as a rookie was not good for him. He was already troubled. He got PHX to trade him after saying it was a racist city and he had his first public gun incident where he expelled a firearm in a parking lot. Chuck got him into trouble. Chuck had Moses, religious Bobby Jones, and Dr. J, Jayson got Chuck, who took him to bars where trouble would eventually find them. Charles Barkley was an outright goon in his early years, but escaped all the negatives that guys like Rodman, Coleman, and Oakley got because people liked his personality. At MSG, he jumped over the scorer's table and chased down Mike Mathis in the tunnel and had a televised yelling match with him. Imagine what that would cost a player these days.
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
but if you're Jah, you are not just an average joe anymore. You are a professional and you carry the name of your team in front of your jersey on or off the court and more importantly, he carries the NBA brand name.
Pro athletes need to be more patient. I know they're just humans but they need to learn that they can't be baited into nonsensical matters.
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
Being human also means recognizing the situation and acting appropriately. It doesn't mean you're free to act like an idiot. Being told the 76ers suck is on the low end of the totem pole in terms of insults. It's not worth the trouble of attacking someone. The only people who would do so aren't human.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject:
From the guy who got his butt kicked:
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According to a statement issued Friday evening by Boston police, a man filed a police report Friday morning stating he was the victim of assault and battery outside the Storyville nightclub on Exeter Street in Boston at around 2 a.m. Thursday. The man said Okafor and another man approached his group and asked some of the women for their phone numbers. When the women declined, a verbal altercation ensued, followed by a physical scuffle. The man said Okafor pushed him and punched him, knocking him to the ground and causing a cut over his eye that later required stitches.
and now ESPN is reporting some earlier incident involve Okafor and hecklers:
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A heckler pointed a gun at Okafor's head following a verbal exchange in October at a Philadelphia club, the Inquirer reported, citing five sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
There is no known report of the incident and Okafor declined to address it, according to the Inquirer report. However, a source told the newspaper that federal officers witnessed the encounter.
Federal officers witnessed someone pointing a gun at someone else and no arrests were made? Must have been happy hour.
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Maybe the Lakers saw a hint of this a during workouts.
still doesn't seem like a good enough reason to pass on Okafor and Porzingis.
The on court stuff provides the reason to pass on Okafor. But you are correct, Jahlil Okafor getting into two separate incidents at two separate clubs within a month's time doesn't seem like a good reason to pass on Porzingis. You don't say.
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
but if you're Jah, you are not just an average joe anymore. You are a professional and you carry the name of your team in front of your jersey on or off the court and more importantly, he carries the NBA brand name.
Pro athletes need to be more patient. I know they're just humans but they need to learn that they can't be baited into nonsensical matters.
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:38 pm Post subject:
kobeandgary wrote:
3peat_pete wrote:
PurpleAndGOAT wrote:
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
but if you're Jah, you are not just an average joe anymore. You are a professional and you carry the name of your team in front of your jersey on or off the court and more importantly, he carries the NBA brand name.
Pro athletes need to be more patient. I know they're just humans but they need to learn that they can't be baited into nonsensical matters.
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
Your defense of Okafor on and off the court has now gone into crazy territory. _________________ Don't let perfect be the enemy of good
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
One of the advantages humans have over other mammals is our impulse control and reasoning abilities. To say it is merely being human to respond to a situation with violence is to suggest adult humans have no self control.
There is no reason to give the guy an excuse for his lack of maturity or common sense.
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
How is saying "Sixers suck" fighting words? You just can't go around punching people.
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:26 pm Post subject:
Everyone was saying defense was why the Tim Duncan comparisons weren't accurate, but forget that. Duncan is calm and collected whereas Okafor seems like a headcase. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:55 pm Post subject:
Practice wrote:
kobeandgary wrote:
3peat_pete wrote:
PurpleAndGOAT wrote:
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
but if you're Jah, you are not just an average joe anymore. You are a professional and you carry the name of your team in front of your jersey on or off the court and more importantly, he carries the NBA brand name.
Pro athletes need to be more patient. I know they're just humans but they need to learn that they can't be baited into nonsensical matters.
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
And that's obviously not ok for any guy walking down the street to do. You can't just assault people for heckling no matter who you are.
And you are an NBA player the year round, not just when you are playing. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:56 pm Post subject:
dabask11 wrote:
kobeandgary wrote:
3peat_pete wrote:
PurpleAndGOAT wrote:
I think Jahlil did what I would've done tbh, you can't start throwing around fighting words and not back it up and he was instigating Jah and Jah got heated
but if you're Jah, you are not just an average joe anymore. You are a professional and you carry the name of your team in front of your jersey on or off the court and more importantly, he carries the NBA brand name.
Pro athletes need to be more patient. I know they're just humans but they need to learn that they can't be baited into nonsensical matters.
I disagree, i think the world needs to realize these guys are human and will act accordingly, Okafor did nothing wrong here and was the victim in the matter and had finally had enough and stood up for himself. Heckle a guy all you want during the game, but don't throw something at him and don't continue the heckling from the street, at that point he is no longer a professional, he's just a guy walking down the street.
Being human also means recognizing the situation and acting appropriately. It doesn't mean you're free to act like an idiot. Being told the 76ers suck is on the low end of the totem pole in terms of insults. It's not worth the trouble of attacking someone. The only people who would do so aren't human.
It isn't even an insult, it is a well established fact. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Maybe the Lakers saw a hint of this a during workouts.
still doesn't seem like a good enough reason to pass on Okafor and Porzingis.
Yes is does for okafor now that it's been established this is a recurring incident.
You've never seen a 19 year old get into a drunken fight outside of a club?
Well, we're now up to two known Okafor fights in six weeks, both of which he may have aggravated from verbal to physical altercations. That he had a gun drawn on him during the first incident and still got into a second altercation weeks later...? He seems like a 19-year-old jerk with anger management issues.
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:54 pm Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Well, we're now up to two known Okafor fights in six weeks, both of which he may have aggravated from verbal to physical altercations. That he had a gun drawn on him during the first incident and still got into a second altercation weeks later...? He seems like a 19-year-old jerk with anger management issues.
He's angry because he thought he'd be a Laker. Though if he had become one he might be twice as angry. At least he'd have two wins here. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Well, we're now up to two known Okafor fights in six weeks, both of which he may have aggravated from verbal to physical altercations. That he had a gun drawn on him during the first incident and still got into a second altercation weeks later...? He seems like a 19-year-old jerk with anger management issues.
He's angry because he thought he'd be a Laker. Though if he had become one he might be twice as angry. At least he'd have two wins here.
Funny, I was wondering if he's still pissed we passed on him and he ended a sixer
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