lakers can't win without Odom

gasb · Rookie Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2

they lose more games without Odom going back to the end of last seasons free fall. if he were playing last night we would have won.

Prometheus8 · Star Player Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 1851

After the last 2 games....yeah, we're in real trouble without him.

CeeJay · Starting Rotation Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 175

I don't think Odom is the reason they lost. It's just the lack of a second option. If Lamar was there, they may have still lost. Did you not see the Indy game?

Kazaam · Star Player Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1909

Seriously, freakin Odumb opologists. Watch the indy game man, the guy was horrible... and 3 games before that. He was a turn-over machine. You guys really sound stupid with a comment like that. We can't win without odom... lol. More like, Losing is the only option with this roster full of WNBA players.

Actually, Im being polite. A player in the WNBA would actually hit shots. This team is pathetic.

Sage_10 · Star Player Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 6668

Like most of the losses this season, last nights was the result of bad shooting by the offense and even worse defense. This team has to learn to play together. I swear, after they beat Miami I thought they would have turned the corner, but things have only gotten worse.

Aeneas Hunter · Retired Number Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 31763

Thanks. We really needed another thread on this topic.

kells1220 · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:17 am Post subject:

Lamar is not that good. More like, the Lakers cant win with those scrubs.

uberzev · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:21 am Post subject:

You could prevent dehydration by drinking toilet water. The question is, would you want to?
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lakersdynasty999 · Star Player Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 1893

hope lamar gets back soon...this team needs to stay over 500
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Worthy42 · Franchise Player Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 19952

112 pts allowed to the Charlotte Hornets != we need another scorer people... Christ...

showtime1308 · Starting Rotation Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 283

Kobe is forced to facilitate the offense when Odom is gone and that is why he was missed last night. If Phil trusted Smush or Sasha to facilitate then it wouldn't be as big of a loss. Making Kobe a facilitator is not beneficial for this team because he has to point out where these guys have to be and he is constantly away from the basket, usually 5 feet behind the 3 point line.

He should have been posting up their little guards all night long. And when they brought the double and triple the guys should be running dive cuts for layups ( at least attempted layups, they probably would miss most of those as well)

The point is when Kobe is in the post in triple threat position he can't be contained as we've seen with his scoring average this year. When he's consistently getting the ball 28 feet from the basket we are in trouble.

kobebynum2008 · Rookie Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 14

The team might win a few more games with Lamar in it, but in the long term we're not gonna be doing much, and why the hell do the Lakers want to be mediocre? No team with Kobe should accept being mediocre. I still say we get rid of Odom ASAP. I know the artest trade is over, but damn, people were jsut too damn scared of him blowing up, but at least with Artest there's the chance of him fitting in with Kobe, with Lamar, you know he's a guy who's just gonna coast throughout the rest of his carreer...

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Supa · Star Player Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2210

Lamar is the toilet water...

bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

40ptmachine · Starting Rotation Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 633

When will fanboys understand that lamar is just a role player ?
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LA Lakers 41790 · Sixth Man Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 68

or maybe now its Lamar O we need u. Hey i im pretty new to chatting wit you guys but ive been going to LG reading the discussions. O and i Live in Michigan so I barely get to see any laker games. So any let me get to my point

Lamar Haters "We need a legit second option" DG had 21 tonight(even if it was in garbage time) and smush had 19 last night arent those second option points? But with Lamar scoring like 9,10 ,11 we won 24-20. But thats just ridiculous how can a team win with their 2nd best player scoring 10 pts a game.

Lamar Haters "Lamar Odom's rebounding can be made up by our other players" Ofcourse it can because there will be another laker in odoms spot. But can they push the ball of the rebound like odom can. How bout Cook with his awesome ball-handling skills or DG or Luke or Kwa nvm. I would also like to say that i heard ppl say that Lamar did make lots of timely rebounds.

Lamar Haters "Trade Lamar for Bibby, Pierce, Artest..." Well im sure that mike bibby can give us the 20 pts instead of DG one day Smush the other day and Mihm the other day. Its gives us a new twist to losing. Pierce is inconsistent i c him scoring 30 then 18 then 18 then 30 and isnt he doing that as their primary scroing option? and didnt Wally outscore him a couple of times. And for Artest i can really see him turing that Sacramento franchise around....

Lamar Haters " Lamar is inconsistent" Then he wouldnt be avg 14 9 and 5
per. It would be like 5 5 5 .

And how can u just trade the facilitator. U all know that the tri takes time to learn. So u gonna say to Phil hey Lamar sucks we want u to take some of ur time that would be spent on improving this team to teaching this guy we traded for Lamar the samething u taught Lamar.

LAMAR ODUMB IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!! ITS BECAUSE WE SPEND OUR TIME MAKING BRICK HOUSES MORE THAN MAKING SHOTS.

angel · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject:

The Lakers haven't won so far.
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venturalakersfan · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject:

Warlord23 · Starting Rotation Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 239

Got a question for someone who watches most Laker games, rather than make statements by looking at the box score.

Earlier this season, Kobe was out for 2 games vs the Jazz. The first one ws a close game throughout that LA lost by 4. The second one was tied through 3 qtrs (IIRC), and Utah finished strongly.

The last 2 games, Kobe's there but no Odom. Both games LA seemed overwhelmed, and the opponent led almost throughout the game and won comfortably. And Charlotte especially is a cellar-dwellar, no comparison to a physical Jazz team.

On the face of it, it seems LA at least competed with Odom, without Kobe. But without Odom, with Kobe, they seemed overmatched. I know Chris Mihm didn't play vs NO/OKC, but he was there vs Charlotte. One clear difference looking at the box score was that the scoring was a lot more distributed in the Utah losses than the last 2 games.

The box score might be misleading, so can someone who watched these games throw some light on this?

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gill2k · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

GuRu at CL said it best. This team is currently: "Kobe and his band of merry scrubs".

Funny at first, but then you wonder, how we ever get to this point... one superstar with his prime being wasted away because management is too stingy to surround him with REAL NBA talent.
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venturalakersfan · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject:

Stingy is such an inaccurate term. The Lakers payroll isn't among the lowest in the league.
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