Did we make a mistake and Trade away to much Talent?

B-Scott · Starting Rotation Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 418

Jumaine jones

Caron butler

Chucky atkins

Kareem rush

I know Rush is struggling,but keep in mind,he doesnt have anyone in Charlotte who draws double teams. So he has to create every shot for himself. In LA he would get more open looks because of Lamar and Kobe. Jumaine jones isnt a great offensive player i admit,but he brings energy,and spot up shooting off the bench. Something Luke walton or a Devon green simply do not. Chucky atkins i agree is not a starter,but what about off the bench. When Sasha is bricking those wide open 3 pointers,we could have atkins off the bench who is capable of catching fire,and hitting you for 20 points. Caron butler- Probably the biggest mistake of them all. We have absolutely no offensive options at times. It's painful to watch.

C Mihm/ Bynum
PF Lamar/Turiaff
SF Devon george/ Jumaine jones
G Caron butler/Kareem rush
G Kobe/ Chucky atkins /Sasha/smush

Would that have been better? Last yr,we lost our coach,had no direction. no system in place on defense or offense. Maybe had we kept these guys,had a better system,maybe we would have played better with these guys. Plus having a healthy Lamar and Kobe. Kobe being better this yr then last yr in 4th quarters because Lamar handles the ball more.

We could use Caron's ability to attack the basket,and get to the free throw line.

JUST-MING · Retired Number Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 43984

The only player that shouldn't have been traded was Jumaine Jones. Rush was shooting in the low 30's%, just like Puke, Crap and Gump this season. Just horrible draft picks from your lovely Phil and Mitch Kupchak. Atkins with the turnstyle defense, had to go. Butler with the turnstyle defense, had to go. Nope. We made good moves, the only one I regret is JJ for a #2 pick some time in the near future. We need his scoring off the bench. Odom can't play power forward... turnstyle defense in the post.

hiline · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:12 am Post subject:

VonWafer&KobeBryantFa · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:14 am Post subject:

Of course we did. What od you think?

qreus-76 · Starting Rotation Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 384

wouldashouldacoulda.

LakerFan4Lyfe · Starting Rotation Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 761

we also made the mistake of not getting enough talent for shnaq......

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS.....?

someone lock this thread

angel · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:26 am Post subject:

The results of those trades was Profit, Kwame, and three #2 picks including Ronny Turiaf. The other 2 #2 picks are Charlotte's in 2007 and 2008. Picks at the beginning of the second round are usually keepers. They tend to be players who were projected in the first round, but slipped.
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Manu · Star Player Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 3603

We knew Kwame was a project. He has his flashes, he needs consistency (and glue on on his hands) But, if in 30mpg, he can average 12/8 (of which he's a tlike 7/6) then I'd be find with the trade for Caron. We just didn't have room on our roster for another SF, and getting a big for a scoring SF is a good deal.

Ank · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:

Ank · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:43 am Post subject:

angel · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:44 am Post subject:

No Odom would have been better? I doubt that.
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wolfpaclaker · Retired Number Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58336

I don't think all of them were either good trades or bad trades. There's some other things one must consider.

The Kwame/Caron trade was a bad one in regards to player level. Caron is easily a better NBA player than Kwame. But Caron is also a SF in a league where there's 10-15 guys his level or better. At the same time, Caron was on his last year. Kwame took a contract that was 2 years guaranteed and 3 years in total.

So you got rid of two players on 1 year deals that weren't going to be re-signed for a bigman that fit the cap plan.

This roster is based on the 2007 plan. You can not hate on the GM for the roster without taking into account the 2007 plan.

If you are against the 2007 plan - Jerry Buss is the guy that wants that more than anyone. So you better take that up with him before you did with the GM. The GM is doing the smartest thing financially and roster wise for the 2007 plan. If you follow the plan, all the moves make sense. If you hate the plan, you will absolutely hate the moves.

Classic case of winning now vs winning later. There's a reason most teams don't sell out when they're rebuilding. Only the hardcore fans deal with that. The rest just fan the team when they're on top.

Freakout · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:47 am Post subject:

Should kept Caron and used the MLE on a 4. Even if it was just to rent Caron for a year it would have been better than having Kwame for 2 (yes I hate him that much).

Marc Jackson could have been had for cheap and could give us Kwame's production.

Sign Steve Blake to the same deal he got from Portland.........

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Freakout · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject:

Crazy LA Fan14 · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject:

Yes. No doubt we should have kept guys like Butler,Jones and Rush.
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lakeshow03 · Star Player Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3078

the guy that is all for trading bynum,is saying we traded away too much talent?

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Crazy LA Fan14

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