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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:39 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- TWOLVES - 12-9-15 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

The Young and The Restless… After getting benched and not told why, D’Angelo Russell and Julius Randle decided they were just going to play their games.

The two youngsters, bonding over their joint benching, responded by leading the team in scoring for the first time. Randle had 20 points and 12 boards, and Russell scored a career-high 23 points. Russell sank big shots down the stretch and sent the game to OT with a driving score with 2.2 left.

Unfortunately, he couldn’t hit the game winner in overtime, and the Lakers fell 123-122 to the Timberwolves.

It took Kobe telling Scott to let the young guys finish the game to make this one interesting. He was also in Russell’s ear throughout crunch time and OT…even as they walked off the court. Priceless.

At 3-19, the Lakers aren’t making the playoffs this year. Getting their young kids some valuable minutes to learn from should be top priority now. Despite the loss tonight, they got a chance to put the game on their young shoulders, and it was good to see them stepping up to the challenge.


Kobe -- -- Kobe stiffened up in the second half, missing a number of shots after a decent start. We finally decided to sit him and let others finish the game. The result was better for the team in this one. Kobe definitely didn’t mind watching, knowing he just can’t push through the physical issues and be consistently successful these days. He told Scott to let the young guys go. Kobe is going to be in charge of his final season (if you haven’t noticed). Nice to see him step back in this one. Scott thought Kobe could have come back if he wanted. “When I looked at him, he just said, ‘let them go.’”The Stats: The Action: His pass was deflected, layup the other way. He sank a pull-up jumper at the top of the key for the Lakers first score. Great D all over Wiggins to force a miss. He lost the handle on a drive on the other end. He sank a three in transition. He dribbled right and hit the pull-up elbow jumper. He missed a wing three. He sank a face-up sideline jumper. He forced a long jumper in early offense and missed. He forced another long jumper and missed. He missed a pumping baseline pull-up. He sank the 17-foot pull-up. He had 11 points on 5-9 shooting. Second Half: He missed the turnaround bank. Short on an elbow fade. He airballed a forced wing pull-up jumper moving to his right. Not close on a fallaway out of the post.

Clarkson -- -- He twisted the ankle and was hobbling around for a bit. He didn’t close the fourth quarter, but didn’t seem too hurt. Hopefully, the ankle doesn’t swell up too much between games. He was getting to the rim for a lot of scores tonight, looking strong on those drives. Despite all the losses, I am enjoying watching the young guys develop. Clarkson’s spot up shooting and poise has improved a ton. It’s going to be interesting in the future with Clarkson going to his strong hand to the right and Russell to the left. Both with nasty midrange games, as well. Kids got to learn to defend well. The Stats: The Action: He got an open FT jumper to bounce in. He probed in control in transition and flipped in a lefty layup over KG. He missed a wing three. He attacked from the wing, dished out a little contact and hit the hanging scoop. He reversed off the triangle cut baseline where Roy found him. He backed it out, attacked right and scored the layup around the defender. He tried threading the needle and it went out of bounds. He hobbled up court, then attacked to his right like he was fine and scored the layup. He tied up Rubio on help D. He pounded the dribble all possession and finally missed a long baseline pull-up jumper. He was called for a charge iso’ing on Rubio. He had 12 points on 6-8 shooting and 4 boards in the first half. Second Half: He missed a wide open wing three on the catch and shoot. He attacked from the wing and muscled in a layup.

Williams -- -- He was the steady vet influence out there with the youngsters. He came up with some big makes, one with 31 seconds left and then another key three in OT. Glad we did let Russell have a chance at tying in regulation and winning in OT. Lou missed his couple of game winner opportunities this year. Some issues knocking down FTs as he missed three. The Lakers had 10 FT misses altogether. In a close game, those hurt. Some nice passes in this one and he led the team with 5 assists. Good all-around game from Lou. He had to come in late in the game to try cool down a hot Kevin Martin. I thought he made Martin work and forced him into some tough shots for the most part. The Stats: He scored 19 points on 7-11 shooting (2-4 from three, 3-6 from the line) to go with 7 boards (3 offensive), 5 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and no fouls in 34 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He wasn’t paying attention when Clarkson passed the ball to him, turnover at midcourt. He attacked and kicked to Nance for the open jumper. He sank a baseline step-back jumper. Herky-jerky move off the three line and he drew FTs on the jumper, he made one. He sank a pull-up working off the Hibbert screen. He scored a layup on the breakaway. He pushed up the rebound and hit the baseline fade. He attacked left and drew FTs on a reach, he made one. He missed a rushed, fading three. Second Half: He attacked and missed a layup but Hibbert tipped it in. He sank a double-clutching three straight away. Nice challenge on his man on the other end to get a miss. He hit Hibbert for the open elbow jumper. He was blocked on a jumper. He manufactured FTs off a busted offensive set, he made one again. He missed a wing three out of a timeout. He hit a toe-on-the-three-line corner jumper with 31 seconds left, needed that point. Good challenge on Martin’s jumper and we got a stop with 8.5 left. Overtime: Good challenge on Martin to force a miss. He sank a big three straight away.

Hibbert -- -- Good start to the third quarter for him, scoring on multiple possessions. That was nice to see. We went with Sacre until he finally fouled out in this one. Hibbert did a good job with that unit, as well, to close the game, but Sacre’s energy was paying off. Roy needs to elevate that part of his game again, especially at the start of games. We need to be throwing the first punches and trying to impose ourselves on opponents instead of the opposite. He had a possible chance to win the game after tracking down Russell’s miss, but really rushed it and wasn’t close. Looked like he had a beat on the clock to gather himself just a hair. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-6 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 7 boards (2 offensive), 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block and 2 fouls in 32 minutes. He was a -7. The Action: He hit Clarkson cutting baseline out of the triangle for the layup. No help D getting turned around and we gave up a dunk with no challenge. Second Half: He tipped in a missed layup. Not close on a lefty hook on iso. Low position and he hit the short jumphook. He swished an elbow jumper off the two-man sequence. He sealed Towns in the post and drew FTs, he made both. He missed an 18-footer. Overtime: He tracked down an offensive board and wasn’t close on the corner jumper.

Nance -- -- No disrespect to Nance, but no way Randle should have had just 9 minutes in the first half. First sub of every game should happen fairly early and it should be Nance for Randle. I don’t mind see Jr. with the starters because you are running both Lou and Kobe out there, but you can’t have him with more minutes than Randle. Not much from Larry in this one. He did have a couple of steals with some nice ball hawking on the perimeter on one of those. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-5 shooting to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals and 2 fouls in 22 minutes. He was a -4. The Action: He missed a baseline jumper. He was blocked trying to power up in the paint. He attacked and hit Clarkson for the FT jumper. He sank a baseline jumper (should have been cutting and he would have had a dunk instead). He ball hawked his man on the perimeter, knocking the ball loose and it led to a Russell breakaway score. Second Half: He didn’t hit rim on a turnaround bank. He was rejected on a layup.

Randle -- -- For the first time and not the last, Russell and Randle led the Lakers in scoring. “We can’t worry about things you can’t control,” Randle said of he and Russell. “We’ve been talking back and forth constantly. We know what we mean to this team, so we know we’re going to be out there. We just got to go out there and play.” You could read a lot into these comments from those two, none of the good for Scott. Randle had some big plays in OT. He had a great feed to Lou for a three and then another score. “Big Game spin right there,” Horry said, describing Randle’s OT spin move for the layup. “Say it again, Rob,” Worthy said. That was sweet. I thought we should have given him a few more opportunities early in OT. He was beasting in this game once again. He’s been doing an excellent job in the last few of getting to the rim and following his own shot, bouncing off the floor quickly. Guys can’t handle him. I still think he’s flying under the radar with the media buzz because he’s not technically a rookie, even though this is really his rookie season. On the downside of this game, he left a lot of points at the FT line. Lakers hit a few more of those and they probably come away with the W. The Stats: He scored 20 points on 7-13 shooting (6-11 from the line) to go with 12 boards (3 offensive), 1 assist, 1 steal and 3 fouls in 33 minutes. He was a +7. The Action: A couple seconds after entering the game, he missed an up and under, but follow tipped it in. He swished a step-back wing jumper. He forced Towns into a travel on the other end with some smothering D. He attacked, overpowered his man, missed the easy one (that he probably could have dunked) but he powered in the And-1 putback, he made the FT. He might have gotten away with a change of pivot feet, it was close but happened so fast as he worked the ball to the post then scored over his man (that got the bench up). He forced an illegal D call on iso (was going on for about 4 seconds before finally whistled). He crossed over his man on a quick attack on the catch and he drew FTs, he made both. He attacked right and missed the layup. He knocked a man down on iso but missed the fade. He had 11 points and 3 boards. Second Half: He missed a step-back 20-footer on a busted offensive sequence with the clock winding down. Good job getting into rebounding position and he drew FTs on the offensive glass, he made one. He attacked across the lane and missed the tough fade against the shotclock. Beastly possession, battling for the defensive board, pushing it up, attacking his man and outmuscling him for the short 5-footer to force a timeout (flexing on his way to the bench). He pushed up the board, attacked, stopped, lost the defender on the extra pivot and had his shot goaltended. He bullied his way left from the right wing and drew FTs, he missed both, however. Overtime: He hit Williams for a big three, whipping a pass to him at the top of the arc. He spun to lose his man and scored the layup. He attacked to his right with speed and was fouled on the dunk attempt, he made one with 33 seconds left.

Russell -- -- While he couldn’t hit on the OT game winner, how do you like that 21-point second half to send it to OT with a score with 2.2 left? This game looked more like the Russell we saw in college. It will just take a little time and patience before his game translates over…and then grows from there. We’ve gone to Lou and Kobe for shots at the buzzer this year with no luck. Russell couldn’t connect on this game-winner. Wish he didn’t slip on that drive, which possibly made it just a little tougher. In any event, he was aggressive throughout the second half and Scott left him in to close. Interesting remarks after the game when asked why things went well for him. What changed? “When I stopped caring. I just stopped caring,” Russell said. He mentioned that he and Julius “looked at each other and was like there ain’t nothing we can do about it. Let’s just play.” It sounds like Scott pissed them off to the point that they are just going to do their thing now. He, Randle and Nick all closed strong, regardless of Scott’s doghouse. It doesn’t help when Scott doesn’t communicate with his youngsters, either. Very dangerous territory for a coach. It sounds like Scott is losing them…even after giving them the carrot tonight with the minutes and close. Russell carried the team with a series of scores in crunch time in the fourth. How great was it to watch Towns, Russell and Randle all imposing themselves and rising to the occasion a number of times? Young guys stepping up to the challenge. Something to note about Russell’s success in this one, he had both Young and Williams on the perimeter. That gave him space to work, and he didn’t back down. Wish we had some hard rollers on those screens for him. Defensively, he had a couple of careless moments on the defensive glass. He’s normally been reliable there. Not sure if he was tired, but that part of his game wasn’t there. Martin was lighting the team up and we ended up with Russell on Rubio to close, but he was on fire when Russell was chasing him off those screens. Looked like he was in the zone. Got to have some better help when you’ve got a hot hand. Loved seeing Kobe in Russell’s ear throughout the close of this game and walking off the court discussing the last shot. That’s coaching. Russell mentioned immediately after the game that Kobe was coaching him down the stretch, as well. As for Scott: “The trick is can you do it again and again and again,” Scott said. Glad Kobe’s in the kid’s ear. The Stats: He scored 23 points on 8-20 shooting (3-9 from three, 4-5 from the line) to go with 1 board, 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 4 fouls in 32 minutes. He was a -2. The Action: He couldn’t handle an inbounds pass, turnover. He scooped up the loose ball, pushed it out with speed and scored the layup. No box out and he gave up a putback. He missed a three at the top of the arc on the catch and shoot. He helped force a turnover on iso D when his man threw it away. He missed a sideline three. Quick first step baseline but he couldn’t finish the layup. Second Half: He attacked from the wing in early offense and powered in the And-1 layup, he made the FT. He missed a rushed three just beating the shotclock on a kickout. Quick attack off the wing screen and he hit the elbow pull-up. He buried a three next time down when his man went under the screen. He missed a wide open three on a kickout. He looked the D off (looked toward Randle’s direction) while Sacre rolled to the hoop and he hit Sacre for the uncontested dunk of the double-high screen sequence. He hit Nick coming off the screen for the jumper. He attacked and kicked weakside to Huertas for the open three. Nice D avoiding the foul and forcing Martin into a brick on the Lou Williams type of foul-draw shot. He swished a long wing jumper on the other end. He missed the long wing pull-up over Towns. He missed the long pull-up against the clock. He spun away from the pressure, kept attacking baseline and drew FTs, he made both. He missed an open wing three on a kickout. He attacked Towns off the high screen and drew FTs with 3 minutes left down 3, he made one. He drained a huge three when his man went under the screen with 2 minutes left. He jab stepped on iso and swished the wing three to cut it to 2 with 45 seconds left. No call on what looked like a possible foul on the three. He iso’d on Wiggins, attacked down the lane to his left, came back to his right, hung and banked in the tough leaner to tie it up with 2.2 seconds left. Overtime: He missed a step-back wing jumper off the screen. He attacked and missed a baseline floater. After giving up an offensive board, good double team with Young to force a turnover. He wanted the clearout foul on Rubio but was slapped with the foul for touching him after that. Russell’s turn to try to hit a game winner, he attacked right off the screen, slipped on the floor, regained some balance and missed the pull-up jumper.

Young -- -- Excellent two-way game from Nick tonight and Scott let him off the leash. “I don’t want to boast about being a better defender than Metta,” Nick said. He’s played strong D this season. When he puts his mind to it, he can be a good defender. No Kobe down the stretch, which was the right call (by Kobe himself). Kobe was clanking in the second half. Nick played within the flow of the offense and hustled on D. Wiggins wasn’t getting anything easy unless he got a mismatch. He led the team in +/-. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 5-9 shooting (2-5 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 1 board, 2 assists, 1 steal and no fouls in 29 minutes. He was a +10. The Action: He drew the D and hit Sacre for the open jumper. He made a tech FT. He swished a long bomb from three. Nearly swiped the ball from Wiggins on the other end on iso D, knocking it out of bounds. Second Half: He missed a wing three. He drained a wing three in transition. He sank a pull-up wing jumper moving to his right. He swished a pull-up jumper coming off the weakside to catch and shoot. Near steal on the other end dropping to the ball in the corner. Nice help D to help the helper (Sacre) and force a turnover on a pass off. He attacked and was tied up down 5 with 1:27, big turnover. Overtime: He missed a corner three on a kickout. Nice trap on the sideline with Russell to force a turnover. He went behind his back to lose Wiggins, attacked and scored the runner/layup. He missed a three straight away.

Huertas -- -- His only make was a big three on a kickout from Russell. He needs to take the shot a little more. Players are going under the screen on him or sagging off. Make them pay a little more when they cheat off you. It will open up the floor for Russell and others. A couple of good moments on D, drawing a push-off foul that reminded me of Sasha bodying up someone. He also had a good reach on help D to force a turnover. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-1 shooting from three to go with 1 board, 4 assists, 2 steals, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 17 minutes. He was a +4. The Action: He hit Sacre for the jumper in the key off the two-man game. Second Half: He traveled on a kickout (should have shot that three). Nice reach on help D to strip a man. He handed it off to Nick for a three in transition. He drained the open wing three on the Russell kickout. He forced the shove-off foul on Lavine.

Sacre -- -- Strong game from Rob tonight. He was more active the Roy and that made a difference. The hustle was there, but he also had a some nice challenges around the rim despite not getting credit for a block. He was efficient offensively, as well. The Lakers had 17 points on 7-11 shooting from their centers tonight. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 4-5 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards and 6 fouls in 19 minutes. He had a +/- of 0. The Action: He backed his man down on iso and was fouled on the jumphook, he made one FT. He couldn’t secure a missed FT. He sank an open baseline jumper. Good effort to recover an offensive board and reset the offense. He sank a jumper in the key off the two-man game. Second Half: A couple of nice challenges at the rim to disrupt layups. Russell found him for a dunk off the double-high screen. He missed the 10-footer after hesitating on the pass. He tapped out an offensive board and we fed him under the hoop for the layup. He fouled out with 2:41 left trying to take a charge.

Scott -- -- I’d have given him a nicer rating tonight except that it really seems Kobe is coaching himself (and Russell)… The Lakers trailed 17-15 midway through the first quarter. Kobe hitting 3-3 to start, but no Laker D on the other end… He sat Kobe for Young and Williams for Russell, Lakers down by 6 with 4 minutes left… He sat Clarkson for Huertas… Sacre in for Nance, Lakers down 1… The Lakers trailed 35-32 after the first… Same unit to start the second quarter… He sat Nick for Kobe after a minute and a half… He brought back in Hibbert, Clarkson and Williams to go with Kobe and Julius with 7 minutes left… Lakers down 2, Randle out for Nance… Randle should not be on the bench with 11 points in 9 minutes… He sat Kobe for Nick with 2 minutes left… The Lakers trailed 59-57 at the half… They started Russell in the second half while Clarkson stayed in the locker room… He sat a couple minutes later with Clarkson’s return… Randle in midway through the quarter, Lakers down 5… Some of these Laker offensive sequences are horrible. Just wind the clock down until we have to iso against the shotclock. This looks like where we could let it slip from us… Russell in for Williams, Lakers down 5… He brought in Nick for Kobe who had a horrible third quarter, Lakers down 8. Good subs… Hibbert and Clarkson out for Sacre and Huertas, Lakers down 8 with 3:27 left in the third… The Lakers trailed 84-81 heading into the fourth… Same unit to start the quarter… They led by 3 shortly later… A 5-point switch, Randle misses both FTs that could have pushed it to 7-point lead and Martin hits a three on the other end… Timeout, Lakers down 3 with 5:25 left. Martin hitting everything he takes… He sat Huertas for Williams out of that… Williams in to cover Martin… Sacre fouled out with 2:41 left, Hibbert in, Lakers down 4… Russell cut it to 2 with a three on iso (he’s had the last 9 points for the Lakers)… Down 4, Scott called a timeout after Towns hit another jumper with 39 seconds left… Down 2 with 31.8 left. How do they defend this one? They got the stop with 8.5 and called timeout... Russell tied it up against Wiggins with a drive and score with 2.2 seconds left. Kobe loved it… Now they needed a stop. They got it to send it to OT… Hibbert, Randle, Young, Williams, Russell for OT. Same unit that closed… They fell down by 5, got a series of stops and tied it up again off a Williams three on a Randle kickout and a Randle iso score. Should have gone to Randle sooner, in my opinion… Tied up with 1:38 left, timeout TWolves… The Lakers trailed by 1 and it looked like they got a shotclock violation with 9.1 seconds left. They gave them a timeout and added 0.6 on the shotclock. Airball on the inbounds so Laker ball anyway with 9.4, down 1. Kobe consulting with Scott on a play call… Russell with a miss on a pull-up at the elbow. Good job by the kids, though, in this one… Just 9 Lakers turnovers in this one. They forced 15 turnovers on the TWolves and turned that into 21 points…
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:40 pm    Post subject:

First?
Nice game for everyone. Only thing missing was the W but almost didn't matter this time.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:47 pm    Post subject:

Finally. A game where Kobe gets the KG treatment and the youngsters play the bulk of the minutes. Exactly as it should be. Really, really hope this isn't an aberration.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:49 pm    Post subject:

Kobe should just be the coach for now on. He clearly understands youth development much more so than Byron ever will.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject:

THX DB. GO LAKERS
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:42 pm    Post subject:

This is closer to how it should have been from the start. But I have faith in Scott to come up with something new that will be as baffling . Thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:01 am    Post subject:

Could it possibly be that there is method to this madness and Kobe and Byron are just playing good cop Bad cop with the youngsters on purpose?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:33 am    Post subject:

I missed the game tonight, turned out to be a good one. This is what I have been saying all along about DLO, he should just go out and be aggressive and play his game like he did in college f*** trying to run Byron Scott's offense be the playmaking scorer that you are and show why we all believe you will be a star. Looked like Randle and Clarkson also had excellent games hopefully Scott will insert Russ and Julius back into the starting lineup. I'm so pissed I missed tonight's game, thanks DB for the recap.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:38 am    Post subject:

Maybe Kobe and Scott are going to do the good cop,bad cop routine this year......Scott's got his role down cold and Kobe can so what he wants. So lets at least hope that works out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject:

Classy move by Kobe. Great response from Randle and Russell.

Let's now put Scott on injured list and let Metta/Kobe/Worthy run the team.

Next unleash Brown and Black too and maybe we will be up to something...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:48 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:03 am    Post subject:

Kobe coming to his senses and Byron is not. D'Lo and Ju were excellent!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:05 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB - had to miss the game - good thing I could watch a replay.

Great to see what happened between Kobe and the young guns of this team, particularly DLO and Randle. Leadership.

Excellent recap as always. Very encouraging game in spite of not getting the W.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:54 am    Post subject:

Coach Kobe ratings?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:16 am    Post subject:

Hopefully this is D'Angelo's coming out game. I have no doubt he can sustain this kind of play. His midrange game can improve significantly. He's limited by his high school frame, but the skill and finesse are there.

Randle, in contrast, is a man and the skill needs to be refined a bit.

To think these kids are only 19 and 20.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Appreciate your game summaries and commentary.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: LAKERS -at- TWOLVES - 12-9-15 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

DancingBarry wrote:
Randle said of he and Russell. “We’ve been talking back and forth constantly. We know what we mean to this team, so we know we’re going to be out there. We just got to go out there and play.” …


Byron's Jedi mind trick to get the rooks more aggressive?
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Klone_dd wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
Randle said of he and Russell. “We’ve been talking back and forth constantly. We know what we mean to this team, so we know we’re going to be out there. We just got to go out there and play.” …


Byron's Jedi mind trick to get the rooks more aggressive?


Recall he benched Lin and Boozer for Price and Davis 20 games into last season. And then at a later point benched them both for some third string guys. There was no rhyme or reason other than throwing random stuff on the wall for 15-20 game blocks to see if it somehow works.
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Thanks DB. I think an important detail to point out is something that DB said about Kobe recognizing stiffness and that he knows he can't push through like he wants. There are games where he won't be stiff and will continue to play in the fourth, which I think is good to have him on the court in crunch time even if the young guys get the shots at the ends of games at times.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Quality loss? What a bizarre world Lakers fandom has become.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:33 pm    Post subject:

Finally got DLO and Randle to play with an added edge and attitude needed to win/dominate in the NBA (ala what The Black Mamba has done for years). They have to always be aggressive and constantly in "attack mode" like players such as Westbrook, Lillard, Parker, Irving and other top PGs. If DLO is not penetrating the paint and forcing opposing defenses to collapse, he is playing like DFish (but without a feared outside shot or ability to play tough D)

Could this have been Byron's brilliant plan or is Byron just a mediocre coach that just got lucky?

Last night, DLO was doing what Kobe/Williams/Clarkson/Huersta was doing before.

Great Job, DB (as always)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:28 pm    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:


Could this have been Byron's brilliant plan or is Byron just a mediocre coach that just got lucky?


A couple days ago, I said the same thing fiendish said. On this, I think he's just throwing things out there to see what sticks in regards to the starters. I think the original purpose of the lineup shuffle was due to the slow starts we were having (and the losing). So the goal was to improve the starters and reduce minutes for Russell and Randle. Yesterday, that kind of went sideways as the youngsters started to dominate. First time I think I've really seen Russell play like he did at Ohio St. attitude-wise. Like he said he just didn't care, didn't worry about looking over his shoulder if he was going to get benched or if he needed to get the ball to Kobe. He just played his game.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Lakersneuron wrote:
Thanks DB. Quality loss? What a bizarre world Lakers fandom has become.


Not half as bizarre a world as is Laker basketball. If not for the uniforms, arena and Kobe scowl, I'd swear I'm watching some other city's very lousy team.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:35 pm    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
First time I think I've really seen Russell play like he did at Ohio St. attitude-wise. Like he said he just didn't care, didn't worry about looking over his shoulder if he was going to get benched or if he needed to get the ball to Kobe. He just played his game.


Now think about how restrained he has been.
How could this help his development?
Yet another anti-Scott piece of evidence.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:16 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
Could this have been Byron's brilliant plan or is Byron just a mediocre coach that just got lucky?
A couple days ago, I said the same thing fiendish said. On this, I think he's just throwing things out there to see what sticks in regards to the starters. I think the original purpose of the lineup shuffle was due to the slow starts we were having (and the losing). So the goal was to improve the starters and reduce minutes for Russell and Randle. Yesterday, that kind of went sideways as the youngsters started to dominate. First time I think I've really seen Russell play like he did at Ohio St. attitude-wise. Like he said he just didn't care, didn't worry about looking over his shoulder if he was going to get benched or if he needed to get the ball to Kobe. He just played his game.
Any HC (from Zen Master/Pop to Byron will get criticized)

Should the rookies just be given PT, whether they are improving or just repeating the same mistakes? If it took a demotion to get them to play with a needed extra edge to win games in the NBA, Byron has been successful in this one area - especially since they did not change the offensive schemes

Earning PT is an invaluable lesson

Having just watched the Bulls vs Clips and Nets vs 76ers, the Lakers are not that far away from beating these teams because their offense was awful while basically having one player bring up the ball and shoot or making terrible decisions. The Bulls are clueless in 4th quarter (even on offense), the Clips' play provide additional evidence that their collapse against Houston was no fluke, the Nets are just bad and the 76ers have a very young team that is more interested in padding their stats than winning.

We will see if DLO/Randle really have learn an invaluable lesson via their play in their next game against the Spurs.
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