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Best wing player |
Jimmy Butler |
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5% |
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Kawhi Leonard |
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76% |
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Paul George |
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17% |
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PurpleAndGOAT Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:00 pm Post subject: Which of these elite wing players do you prefer? |
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Which of these star wing guys do you think is best? I still think Durant and LeBron are the best right now as far as forwards/wings but after them it's kind of a toss up _________________ Lake Show |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:37 am Post subject: |
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I remember making a similar thread to this.
The USA basketball team has to deal with this question every 4 years.
I don't know who's the best overall. They are all defense-first, elite wings.
In terms of 1 on 1 scoring:
Butler>George>Leonard
In terms of 1 on 1 defense:
Leonard>George>Butler (due mostly to their varying length/wingspan) _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Geez, my top two are Leonard and George and it's close. But Butler can be the choice too. I voted Leonard just because he's the best perimeter defender I've ever seen, and he's a legit 1st option on offense now. George is the most skilled offensively, love his game. |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Geez, my top two are Leonard and George and it's close. But Butler can be the choice too. I voted Leonard just because he's the best perimeter defender I've ever seen, and he's a legit 1st option on offense now. George is the most skilled offensively, love his game. | agree. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Leonard is so good on D that he makes LeBron look average. And his offense ain't too bad either. Gotta go with him. |
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paolomagma Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Gotta go with Leonard.
Out of the choices he's the best defender, the most efficient and the most unselfish. No ego to worry about either. |
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:02 am Post subject: |
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yikes... so hard.
I like Jimmy Butler and PG24... but Jimmy Butler reminds me of young Kobe... Leonard though is a defensive beast... tough... you can't lose with anyone on that list. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Jesus, that's a tough one. I'd probably go Butler, Kawhi, & PG, and could easily talk myself into the exact opposite order. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Leonard has no weakness and seems like a great guy to coach and play with
I would argue he might be the best all around player in the league |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Kahwai all day. One is proven over all the other, Finals MVP. Done. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Paul George.
I always value a guy who carries his team more than a slightly lesser player allbeit a better defender.
Jimmy Butler is very good, and 2nd. Just a little less of a #1 guy than George.
KL is 3rd in my book.
All 3 fantastic players, but with KL you need the #1 guy. With Paul George you already have him (when he's healthy). With Butler, you have a guy that sometimes shows he can be that #1, but he's not shown it enough to be called a guy you can see win a ring as the #1. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Kahwai all day. One is proven over all the other, Finals MVP. Done. |
Paul George has lifted an Indiana team whose 2nd best player was Lance Stephenson, who outside of Indiana hasn't even shown he is worth starting in the NBA, to the ECF and contender status. There's no way Leonard does that for a team.
Leonard is arguably the best support player in the league right now - but he's not been proven as the man. Very different when the opposing team schemes it's entire defense around stopping you. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Kahwai all day. One is proven over all the other, Finals MVP. Done. |
Paul George has lifted an Indiana team whose 2nd best player was Lance Stephenson, who outside of Indiana hasn't even shown he is worth starting in the NBA, to the ECF and contender status. There's no way Leonard does that for a team.
Leonard is arguably the best support player in the league right now - but he's not been proven as the man. Very different when the opposing team schemes it's entire defense around stopping you. |
I think you're really underselling Kahwai. And he's carrying the team this year. It's a matter (as you described it aptly) of Kahwai blending in with the vets (TD, Parker, Manu). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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This year I agree. But he's also got LMA who draws a ton of attention. TD. Parker. Shooters at 2. Or Ginobli. He gets so much more freedom and breathing room than Paul George.
George plays with Mahinimi, Ellis, Hill, Miles. Not exactly the same freedom.
Switch them and I don't think Indiana is where they are in the standings. George is a guy that has proven to be able to carry a team. He's top 5 in the league when healthy, IMO. Leonard is closer to top 20. IMO, again obviously. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | This year I agree. But he's also got LMA who draws a ton of attention. TD. Parker. Shooters at 2. Or Ginobli. He gets so much more freedom and breathing room than Paul George.
George plays with Mahinimi, Ellis, Hill, Miles. Not exactly the same freedom.
Switch them and I don't think Indiana is where they are in the standings. George is a guy that has proven to be able to carry a team. He's top 5 in the league when healthy, IMO. Leonard is closer to top 20. IMO, again obviously. |
But that's my point. It's unfair to criticize him for having too many good teammates.
I guess we have different criteria. I love George (and hope we pursue him in 2018...want him more than Westbrook). But it's way too speculative to say he'd put up similar numbers on a stacked Spurs team. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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1) Kawhi
2) PG
3) Butler
That's the order for me but I love all 3. Would really love to see any of them in the purple and gold before they retire. I think Kawhi will be a Spur forever and Butler just signed a long contract so PG is probably the guy we have the best shot at. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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The beauty of Kahwai is how he fits in a well oiled system. He's not about his own #s (maybe George isn't either, but he hasn't been "encumbered" with talent like Kahwai has on the Spurs). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | The beauty of Kahwai is how he fits in a well oiled system. He's not about his own #s (maybe George isn't either, but he hasn't been "encumbered" with talent like Kahwai has on the Spurs). |
That's exactly why it was such a tough call for me |
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Let's just say I'd take any of the 3 on my team. This is a great poll question. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Kwi, but George isn't too far behind. Things might be different if George wasn't stuck on the Pacers, I'd like to see him playing with some talent, but I can't get past Kwi's efficiency and defense, not to mention how he came up big in the finals. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Apart from Durant, George is the guy I hope we land in 2018. Maybe he can force a trade here in 2017. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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PG. Kawhi. Butler. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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butler all the way for me.
then george, then kawhi.
I'm not convinced that Kawhi is a better defender than butler, but I'm keeping an eye on it. |
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paolomagma Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:00 am Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | butler all the way for me.
then george, then kawhi.
I'm not convinced that Kawhi is a better defender than butler, but I'm keeping an eye on it. |
You think Butler is a better defender than the reigning DPOY? C'mon man. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Kawhi gets that Popovich bump.
Has the best coach out of all 3 players, by far. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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