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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: Would you swap a top 3 pick for Draymond Green?
If we get a pick in the top three this year, would you swap it for Draymond Green if given the choice? What if it were the #1 pick? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
For some reason, I really never thought about it, but Draymond Green is arguably the best center in the NBA. Just let that sink in a moment. A 6'7" 230 pound small forward/shooting guard is the best center in the NBA.
For some reason, I really never thought about it, but Draymond Green is arguably the best center in the NBA. Just let that sink in a moment. A 6'7" 230 pound small forward/shooting guard is the best center in the NBA.
That's how badly the center position has fallen.
Pretty sure that honor goes to Demarcus Cousins......
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Would you swap a top 3 pick for Draymond Green?
CandyCanes wrote:
If we get a pick in the top three this year, would you swap it for Draymond Green if given the choice? What if it were the #1 pick?
Nope. We're looking for a franchise player. If lucky, a once in a lifetime type player like we've enjoyed in Kobe. We do not have the team in place for Draymon to continue his effectiveness.
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22734 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject:
ocho wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Yeah, and continue to go into the lottery every year since there is no Curry or Klay Thompson here. I also noticed how you were careful to say "all-star." You see, that's all he is, an all-star. We're swinging for the fence with the #1 as in hall of fame franchise cornerstone caliber.
Draymond is a super utility guy, one of the best in my recent history. You don't build around a utility guy. He's a glue guy. Once you have your main pieces in place, you apply the glue last... ideally.
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 12111 Location: Bay Area
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject:
I think DLO, Clarkson, Randle, and Green is a pretty good base - thats without free agents and with all pretty friendly contracts. Yeah, I'd make that trade.
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Top 3 players from the last 4 drafts(no order).
Cousins
Wall
George
Irving
Kawhi
Klay
AD
Lillard
Drummond
2013 draft
So yeah, no.
This is not a draft you want to be giving a top 3 pick(top 2 in particular) away for someone like Draymond. As good as he is, no, just no. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts!
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Yeah, and continue to go into the lottery every year since there is no Curry or Klay Thompson here. I also noticed how you were careful to say "all-star." You see, that's all he is, an all-star. We're swinging for the fence with the #1 as in hall of fame franchise cornerstone caliber.
Draymond is a super utility guy, one of the best in my recent history. You don't build around a utility guy. He's a glue guy. Once you have your main pieces in place, you apply the glue last... ideally.
It's funny to me that so many credit Steph and Klay for opening things up for Green while simultaneously ignoring what Green does for them. If you think Green is just a glue guy you just frankly aren't paying that much attention to the Warriors.
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Top 3 players from the last 4 drafts(no order).
Cousins
Wall
George
Irving
Kawhi
Klay
AD
Lillard
Drummond
2013 draft
So yeah, no.
This is not a draft you want to be giving a top 3 pick(top 2 in particular) away for someone like Draymond. As good as he is, no, just no.
Cherry picking is a fun exercise but teams don't have the benefit of your hindsight. You also skipped the 2014 draft. Here are the Top 3 picks from the most recent drafts, leaving out the most recent one because the jury is still out on a lot of them.
Andrew Wiggins
Jabari Parker
Joel Embiid
Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Top 3 players from the last 4 drafts(no order).
Cousins
Wall
George
Irving
Kawhi
Klay
AD
Lillard
Drummond
2013 draft
So yeah, no.
This is not a draft you want to be giving a top 3 pick(top 2 in particular) away for someone like Draymond. As good as he is, no, just no.
Cherry picking is a fun exercise but teams don't have the benefit of your hindsight. You also skipped the 2014 draft. Here are the Top 3 picks from the most recent drafts, leaving out the most recent one because the jury is still out on a lot of them.
Andrew Wiggins
Jabari Parker
Joel Embiid
Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
If your team knows how to draft then you don't have anything to worry about.
I left out the 2014 draft because those players are only in their second year. Same reason I left out last year's draft. It's too soon to know. You obviously knew that. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts!
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Top 3 players from the last 4 drafts(no order).
Cousins
Wall
George
Irving
Kawhi
Klay
AD
Lillard
Drummond
2013 draft
So yeah, no.
This is not a draft you want to be giving a top 3 pick(top 2 in particular) away for someone like Draymond. As good as he is, no, just no.
Cherry picking is a fun exercise but teams don't have the benefit of your hindsight. You also skipped the 2014 draft. Here are the Top 3 picks from the most recent drafts, leaving out the most recent one because the jury is still out on a lot of them.
Andrew Wiggins
Jabari Parker
Joel Embiid
Anthony Bennett
Victor Oladipo
Otto Porter
Anthony Davis
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bradley Beal
Kyrie Irving
Derrick Williams
Enes Kanter
If your team knows how to draft then you don't have anything to worry about.
I left out the 2014 draft because those players are only in their second year. Same reason I left out last year's draft. It's too soon to know. You obviously knew that.
Ok, take Wiggins/Parker/Embiid off the list and add Wall/Turner/Favors. I think you get the point. You don't always know what you're getting when you pick a player, and with the exception of Bennett none of those picks were considered reaches at the time. The odds of us drafting a player of Green's caliber are highly unlikely.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Would you swap a top 3 pick for Draymond Green?
Runway8 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
If we get a pick in the top three this year, would you swap it for Draymond Green if given the choice? What if it were the #1 pick?
Nope. We're looking for a franchise player. If lucky, a once in a lifetime type player like we've enjoyed in Kobe. We do not have the team in place for Draymon to continue his effectiveness.
And if we get lucky enough to keep that pick, we will still be looking for that player after the draft. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144432 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject:
Runway8 wrote:
ocho wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
I love Draymond, but no. I'd gamble to get a franchise guy.
Totally! With a pick that high you definitely would want to try and get an All Star player. Someone who can guard every position on the floor and be a DPOY contender, hit 3s, post up, rebound, block shots, and lead the league's best offensive team in assists. With any luck, you'd hit gold in the intangibles department too and the pick would be a great team guy who also has a killer instinct and isn't afraid of any opponent. Most top 3 picks can do all that stuff.
Yeah, and continue to go into the lottery every year since there is no Curry or Klay Thompson here. I also noticed how you were careful to say "all-star." You see, that's all he is, an all-star. We're swinging for the fence with the #1 as in hall of fame franchise cornerstone caliber.
Draymond is a super utility guy, one of the best in my recent history. You don't build around a utility guy. He's a glue guy. Once you have your main pieces in place, you apply the glue last... ideally.
We could get our Curry and Klay in free agency. FAs would be much more attracted to the Lakers with Green instead of some kid that might be a good player in 3-4 seasons. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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