David Alridge reports D'angelo Russell has no idea what to ask Byron in order to improve and is completely lost as a point guard
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:53 am    Post subject:

I can't believe some ppl can still sit here and defend Scott lol.
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Right now I don't see many of our rooks making executing the game plan their #1 priority


Which game plan are you referring to exactly?


Manning up? I think Byron has an ancient code that he's trying to have the players crack. Once cracked, the ancient secrets of basketball will reveal themselves.


Like Indiana Jones & Raiders of the Lost Ark?


More like Marcellus's suitcase in Pulp Fiction. That's Byron's MAN UP.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:58 am    Post subject:

tnell wrote:
I can't believe some ppl can still sit here and defend Scott lol.


I'll defend the man, he's doing a great job making sure we have a very good shot at landing a top 3 pick!
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Nobody on this team plays defense (period)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:09 am    Post subject:

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Nobody on this team plays defense (period)


Anthony Brown does but that's beside the point. Even he can look like trash if our defensive schemes are terrible.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:13 am    Post subject:

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I can't believe some ppl can still sit here and defend Scott lol.


It's comical. We're screwed for years if the Lakers FO is thinking the same way.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:14 am    Post subject:

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I can't believe some ppl can still sit here and defend Scott lol.


It's comical. We're screwed for years if the Lakers FO is thinking the same way.


If he's still here next year we ARE DONE.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject:

In this offense all that D'Angelo has to do is run a high screen and roll, he either gets open and shoots his mid range or passes it to the cutting player who screened for him. That's the beginning and end of our offensive system.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:22 am    Post subject:

No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:24 am    Post subject:

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In this offense all that D'Angelo has to do is run a high screen and roll, he either gets open and shoots his mid range or passes it to the cutting player who screened for him. That's the beginning and end of our offensive system.


In the words of Metta World Peace, "keep it simple".
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:24 am    Post subject:

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No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much. Also it would be our 3rd straight failed coaching hire... that in itself tells you alot about this front office and their ability to rebuild.


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No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.
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No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Jeanie and Jim.
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No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Jeanie and Jim.


Let's all go.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Jeanie and Jim.


Let's all go.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:31 am    Post subject:

KobeDunk wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Mitch and Jim.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:33 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Mitch and Jim.


Fixed.

I disagree, Jeanie is not a little angel, she has her issues too.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject:

Anybody defending the lack of communication between Byron and the young players need a reality check. Communication is PARAMOUNT when coaching. How do you expect them to know why they are benched? How do you expect them to know what to fix? THE COACH TELLS YOU. These guys are 19, 20 and 23 and have played less than 3 years of NBA basketball COMBINED. They are not supposed to know what is right and wrong yet. They are supposed to be taught. That's how you learn.

Telling them to be obedient does nothing. Basketball is a read and react sport and players must be taught to be able to make those reads. Being a robot and only going through the exact motions he says doesn't lead to success.

The lack of effort is on the players but it is also a result of the coaching. When you are playing hard and being benched for unknown reasons it is frustrating for any player of any age. If you don't know what to change in order to get more playing time and the coach refuses to tell you then a drop in effort is expected. It's not mature or the right thing to do but its seen by all young players being poorly coached on bad teams.

Byron has a scapegoat in the young guys and is milking it until people of importance call him out on it. Last night is being made out to be the young guys fault on here and on the radio. Lets look at some stats.

Kobe: 8-18, 8rb, 3 as
Roy: 0-4, 2rbs, 0 as
Lou:1-10, 2rb, 2 as
Bass: 0-4, 1rb, 2as

Clarkson: 5-10, 0 rb, 1 as
Randle: 5-10, 11rb, 2 as
Russell: 3-5, 6rb, 1as

Byron needs to find some new scapegoats based on these stats.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:10 am    Post subject:

KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much. Also it would be our 3rd straight failed coaching hire... that in itself tells you alot about this front office and their ability to rebuild.


Pretty much any coach that was brought it was going to be seen as a failure because they were following up Phil Jackson's last championship run.

When you look at all the NBA coaches that the Lakers passed on and that Lakers fans wanted none of their teams are doing particularly well.

Some fans are clamoring for Luke Walton right now but if the Lakers had hired him few would have given him a chance and this team would likely be just as bad.

No matter what coach is brought it they'll be held up to an unfair standard by most fans and deemed a failure.

I saw all this as someone who thinks Byron is doing a horrible job with the team and especially the young players. He was basically set up to fail, but he's not making matter any better with how he's constantly disparaging our rookies to the media. This is likely Byron's last job as an NBA coach, he's not going to get another shot after this and with such a well established rep of players souring on him.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:10 am    Post subject:

KobeDunk wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much.


It's time to let go of Showtime.


I agree... go tell that to Jeanie and Jim.


Let's all go.


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and pitchforks!!!!
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Truck Turner wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much. Also it would be our 3rd straight failed coaching hire... that in itself tells you alot about this front office and their ability to rebuild.


Pretty much any coach that was brought it was going to be seen as a failure because they were following up Phil Jackson's last championship run.

When you look at all the NBA coaches that the Lakers passed on and that Lakers fans wanted none of their teams are doing particularly well.

Some fans are clamoring for Luke Walton right now but if the Lakers had hired him few would have given him a chance and this team would likely be just as bad.

No matter what coach is brought it they'll be held up to an unfair standard by most fans and deemed a failure.

I saw all this as someone who thinks Byron is doing a horrible job with the team and especially the young players. He was basically set up to fail, but he's not making matter any better with how he's constantly disparaging our rookies to the media. This is likely Byron's last job as an NBA coach, he's not going to get another shot after this and with such a well established rep of players souring on him.


Byron has a .417 winning percentage right now, tying him with Kevin Loughery for the worst winning percentage of any HC with over 1,000 games under his belt. Being set up to fail the past two seasons hasn't helped his winning percentage, but he was already within spitting distance of .417 after his stints with NO and the Cavs, alll despite coaching two HOF PGs. BS will be the worst long-tenured coach in NBA history. His failure here didn't take Marty McFly coming back from the future with a Sports Almanac to foresee.

They should have kept MDA during this downturn and then let him go this summer rather than turn to Scott. They would still likely be bad, but they would have had continuity instead of letting BS be the tank martyr. Hopefully rather than listen to fans, the FO actually makes a smart coaching hire without going for sexy names, and the fans shut up because they've seen over the past two seasons how truly awful it can be.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject:

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Luke Walton right now but if the Lakers had hired him few would have given him a chance and this team would likely be just as bad.



I doubt Luke comes out and says, "I don't need to talk to rookies, they just need to listen to me," or "man up," or "3 pointers don't win championships" and so on..

I mean look at Brett Brown in Philly. He has a worse record than Byron but he's night/day coaching/teaching wise. He employs positivity with his players and doesn't dump on them. But I guess since Brown didn't play on the Showtime team, he wouldn't know.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Truck Turner wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much. Also it would be our 3rd straight failed coaching hire... that in itself tells you alot about this front office and their ability to rebuild.


Pretty much any coach that was brought it was going to be seen as a failure because they were following up Phil Jackson's last championship run.

When you look at all the NBA coaches that the Lakers passed on and that Lakers fans wanted none of their teams are doing particularly well.

Some fans are clamoring for Luke Walton right now but if the Lakers had hired him few would have given him a chance and this team would likely be just as bad.

No matter what coach is brought it they'll be held up to an unfair standard by most fans and deemed a failure.

I saw all this as someone who thinks Byron is doing a horrible job with the team and especially the young players. He was basically set up to fail, but he's not making matter any better with how he's constantly disparaging our rookies to the media. This is likely Byron's last job as an NBA coach, he's not going to get another shot after this and with such a well established rep of players souring on him.


Byron has a .417 winning percentage right now, tying him with Kevin Loughery for the worst winning percentage of any HC with over 1,000 games under his belt. Being set up to fail the past two seasons hasn't helped his winning percentage, but he was already within spitting distance of .417 after his stints with NO and the Cavs, alll despite coaching two HOF PGs. BS will be the worst long-tenured coach in NBA history. His failure here didn't take Marty McFly coming back from the future with a Sports Almanac to foresee.

They should have kept MDA during this downturn and then let him go this summer rather than turn to Scott. They would still likely be bad, but they would have had continuity instead of letting BS be the tank martyr. Hopefully rather than listen to fans, the FO actually makes a smart coaching hire without going for sexy names, and the fans shut up because they've seen over the past two seasons how truly awful it can be.


They got rid of MDA because they were hoping to keep Pau and land Carmelo. Neither of them were big fans of D'Antoni and it was completely understandable if Pau's case. I also don't think Kobe cared for D'Antoni very much.

MDA is actually a great coach, but he's another one of those guys that sucks an dealing with people. The way he immediately alienated Pau was messed up and unnecessary.
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Truck Turner wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Truck Turner wrote:
KobeDunk wrote:
sirronstuff wrote:
No way can Byron be here after the Summer. It just can't happen.


Byron is a Showtime guy... will be hard to let him go with Worth, Magic, Kareem and the guys backing him so much. Also it would be our 3rd straight failed coaching hire... that in itself tells you alot about this front office and their ability to rebuild.


Pretty much any coach that was brought it was going to be seen as a failure because they were following up Phil Jackson's last championship run.

When you look at all the NBA coaches that the Lakers passed on and that Lakers fans wanted none of their teams are doing particularly well.

Some fans are clamoring for Luke Walton right now but if the Lakers had hired him few would have given him a chance and this team would likely be just as bad.

No matter what coach is brought it they'll be held up to an unfair standard by most fans and deemed a failure.

I saw all this as someone who thinks Byron is doing a horrible job with the team and especially the young players. He was basically set up to fail, but he's not making matter any better with how he's constantly disparaging our rookies to the media. This is likely Byron's last job as an NBA coach, he's not going to get another shot after this and with such a well established rep of players souring on him.


Byron has a .417 winning percentage right now, tying him with Kevin Loughery for the worst winning percentage of any HC with over 1,000 games under his belt. Being set up to fail the past two seasons hasn't helped his winning percentage, but he was already within spitting distance of .417 after his stints with NO and the Cavs, alll despite coaching two HOF PGs. BS will be the worst long-tenured coach in NBA history. His failure here didn't take Marty McFly coming back from the future with a Sports Almanac to foresee.

They should have kept MDA during this downturn and then let him go this summer rather than turn to Scott. They would still likely be bad, but they would have had continuity instead of letting BS be the tank martyr. Hopefully rather than listen to fans, the FO actually makes a smart coaching hire without going for sexy names, and the fans shut up because they've seen over the past two seasons how truly awful it can be.


They got rid of MDA because they were hoping to keep Pau and land Carmelo. Neither of them were big fans of D'Antoni and it was completely understandable if Pau's case. I also don't think Kobe cared for D'Antoni very much.

MDA is actually a great coach, but he's another one of those guys that sucks an dealing with people. The way he immediately alienated Pau was messed up and unnecessary.


Alienating and benching your second best player is not the sign of a great coach. Quite the opposite. X's and O's aren't everything especially in professional sports when dealing with huge egos.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:43 am    Post subject:

Again, I highly recommend listening to WOJ's podcast with Brett Brown. Had me damn begging the FO to hire this guy over Scott.
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