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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:27 am Post subject: Ceiling/floor/realist game for our young players
Here's a game... So for each of our young players going forward, list a player whom you think represents their maximum potential, one who represents their worst case scenario, and one which you think they will actually turn out like (can be the same as one of the other two if you're an optimist/pessimist.)
Example:
D'Angelo Russell
Ceiling: Damien Lilliard
Floor: Kendall Marshall with a jumpshot
Realist: Mike Conley
Randle, Clarkson, Nance, Ryan Kelly, Tarik Black, Anthony Brown are the others. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
1) You can argue that D'Angelo right now is better than Lou/Marshall/Jack/Fisher/Billups (and all the other crazy comparisons he's been receiving) ever were. No offense to those guys one bit. I think he's way too skilled of a player to be receiving those comparisons.
I don't know what his ceiling is. His game is being held back so much, so I can't make any judgement yet. I do know that he'd be doing damage in Philly the way Ish Smith is doing. The system and Byron Scott have wrecked his game here. Hell, it's wrecked everyone's game here.
2) Randle's ceiling is Larry Johnson. 20/10 guy in his peak, all-star. Didn't develop an outside shot until his 3rd season. Despite being undersized, he was an absolute bruiser inside and always found a way to score. I see Randle having that same motor, but not necessarily the athleticism.
3) Clarkson is Monta Ellis lite at the moment, though his 3 pt shooting is much better. Ellis was a slashing 25/5/4/2 guard in his peak. I see Clarkson having that same potential and speed.
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:06 pm Post subject:
Russell: ShaUn Livingston -Deron Williams
Clarkson: Courtney Lee -Monta Ellis
Randle: JJ Hickson - Paul Milsap
Somewhere inbetween is where they will end up. _________________ SCHROEDER/CARUSO/COOK
MATTHEWS/KCP/THT
LEBRON/KUZMA/BABYGIANIS
AD/MORRIS/DUDLEY
GASOL/HARRELL/TINKLE
Coachs:Vogel/Kidd
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Ceiling/floor/realist game for our young players
Clarkson: poor man's Monta - pooooor man's Westbrook
Randle is an unique specimen, really hard to tell. Great rebounder, has so many holes to refine and some unique physical tools. Seems like someone willing to work hard to improve: head case - borderline franchise player
Nance: poor man's Austin Croshere - rich man's Robert Horry
Brown: Devean George - Rick Fox
Russell: rich man's Derek Fisher with no balls - poooor man's Curry
Black: laid back Ronny Turiaf - Kenneth Faried
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:23 pm Post subject:
In my opinion, Lakers fans consistently undervalue Clarkson's value and potential. He is playing is the same Byron Scott system that everyone else is, but rarely gets mentioned in criticism towards him....but is often mentioned when discussing Randle and Russell's off nights. He is also playing alongside a crew of mismatched veterans and rookies, which has to effect his production.
He is 6'5", fairly athletic, and a has great attitude.
In a similar narrative, why is Nance always limited to a rotation type potential, why Randle is viewed as a future star? This may prove true, but Nance has a better mid range shot, is a much better athlete, and I think the sky should be the limit. My biggest fear is he seems to buy into this theory that he should just be happy to be on the team. I would love to see him come out and be really aggressive....think the results may even surprise him.
Clarkson has proven himself a scorer. I think Randle will be productive his entire career if he can stay healthy. I think Russell has the biggest potential to be a bust.
Clarkson has proven himself a scorer. I think Randle will be productive his entire career if he can stay healthy. I think Russell has the biggest potential to be a bust.
I think none of Clarkson, Russell or Randle have any chance at being a bust. That is ridiculous thinking. They may not live up to your expectations but they will NOT be busts.
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