This is a KG thought, but please here me out

RMurphy_22 · Star Player Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 4193

As we have watched are Lakers navigate throught the season as a young team making mistakes, playing inconsistent, and playing down to the competition we all notice the same things. We have the greatest player in game KB8 who's not getting younger, the greatest coach in the game (3 yr contract), and role players who seem to be either short of confidence, weak hearted, or are just OK/bad players. I believe that we cannot be stupid and waste the talents and time of Kobe & Phil and the Lakers must work faster and harder to take advantage of what they have. In Minnesota you have a very familiar situation a average team around a superstar who is getting older, and like us they are falling, getting blow out of games and also need to make a change. We have heard that there are possible problems between KG & Mchale, and looking at KG #'s in last few weeks I think he is started to say something-TRADE ME!! I think we have to do whatever we can and push for a deal to get him, it makes sense basketball wise for both teams; we are pushing to go the next level with are greats and they seem to be rebuilding on the fly (trades recently). On Real GM.com I was able to make this trade work-I'm sure theres other alternatives but this is gamble I would take:

LA Lakers Outgoing:
Lamar Odom (SF/PF)
Devean George(SF)
Chris Mihm(C)

LA Lakers Incoming:
Kevin Garnett(PF)
Ronald Dupree(SF)
Bracey Wright(PG)

We get KG with Kobe and are able to still infuse some young athletic pieces and yes we will still are some players away, but the city, league will be buzzing. I don't think situation is as far fetched as people think it is, and I still believe that Phil Jackson did not come back without a promise that the Lakers would bring in stars at almost any cost. In 2007/2008 we should worry about rebuilding, not then going out retrieve possible stars, we have to take advantage of what we have now!

Go Lakers

-sorry if I wasted your time-

tony smith · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

IMHO if this trade was all it would take, KG would already be a laker. mchale will want odom AND bynum as a starting ground, and even then with his celtic green envy, he'd still probably not make the trade.

my hope, and i believe our only hope, is for KG to specifically demand a trade to LA.

there are a few things i open the sports section for with the hopes of:

miami losing. (obvious reasons)
clippers losing. (smack talking little brothers need to be put in their place)
wolves losing, bad. (so KG will get pissed enough to demand the trade.

kells1220 · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:44 am Post subject:

I think the only way KG is traded is if he demands it, and its not in his nature. But who knows.

KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

Wolves will never trade KG within their confrence. KG aint never gonna demand a trade, hes too loyal for that.
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RMurphy_22 · Star Player Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 4193

If you read yesterdays comments by KG after the game (hoopshype.com) he is getting very frustrated. KG can demand a trade in his conference, and the Wolves owe it to him to push him to a place of success; he built that franchise.

mike_kb · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 384

Tell me why Minny does this? If they trade KG, they would demand a young stud or two, expirings in exchange for their long-term contracts and multiple draft picks. Kevin Mchale would rather fellate a hot iron than hand KG to us.

RMurphy_22 · Star Player Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 4193

mike_kb · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 384

KG still has 5 years of 20/10/5 left on him considering his work ethic. Comparing KG to Shaq who never cared to work out in the off-season is unfair to KG. Besides, you wouldn't trade Kobe for 3 rookies just because they are younger than him, would you?

RMurphy_22 · Star Player Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 4193

We are not trading for KG with 3 rookies, plus Kobe is younger and has more basketball left than KG. Do you think Minny wants 18 and 10 (#'s going down) for the next 5yrs at 20 million plus a year? They would be getting tangible talent and not be financially as strapped as they are now. Minnestota is not the type of place that going to get mid-level exempt type players to build around an aging Garnett. I believe they had there run with him, and need to look to move on.

sodapoppenski · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:

Ya lost me at "here me out"

PiPisKobesByatch · Star Player Joined: 20 Nov 2001 Posts: 8038

i trade bynum if we can get kg.. simple as that.

at best, will bynum really be better than kg? i highly doubt it.

he might get a similar amount of rebounds and blocks.. but their scoring repertoire is on totally different levels.

at worst.. he'll be another stiff center.

i would take that gamble any day of the week.

plus, you can't factor out the passion that kg has for the game, as well as his drive and motivation. besides kobe, he is probably the most passionate guy out there.. maybe even moreso.

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sodapoppenski · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject:

Ok in a more serious response to your first post

I think you're roughly in the ballpark of the type of guys we'd give up.

They may even want LO, Bynum + Mihm.

At that point it actually gets sticky, because while that gets us KG it really
empties our chamber otherwise.

I've said before that I'd trade anyone outside of Kobe for KG.

I'll stick to that statement.

Kobe just entering his prime. Phil possibly here just two more years.

If you can get KG when he's still in part of his own prime, that's too
attractive a pairing not to at least attempt.

lakeshow03 · Star Player Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3078

IF we have ANY chance at KG its gonna come down to,give up bynum before he blossoms,or see kg and kb do damage now.which will mr.buss decide?

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The Dagger · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject:

It might take Odom, A-bomb, and draft picks to persuade McHale. McHale would likely refuse and have to be overruled by ownership. Even than McHale would likely quit his job before he let that happen.

Don't be fooled, McHale has a serious agenda against the Lakers. He had a chance to get Eddie and Elden Campbell in his prime for a player that was leaving his team anyways. He turned it down and hurt his team in order to sabbotage the Lakers. Funny thing is we ended up with Glen Rice who with his beautiful outside stroke helped us win the first of our three-peat. Googs got injured and never really played again.
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NOODLESTYLE · Star Player Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 2977

Don't forget Ron Artest.

fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11051

I think we've beaten the KG thing beyond death, but I'll chime in.

I'd love to see KG in purple and gold. We all know there has to be a chain of events. First Garnett must demand a trade to only the Lakers. McHale will take a bit lesser package from an east coast team to keep him from LA. This isn't because of the bad blood with Celts/Lakers, but you don't deal him to a rival that will be a dynasty unless he forces you to. Chicago has the best group of players in my opinion, and can get him if they pay the price.

After he demands LA, McHale will demand Bynum. Mitch will sit on it, and it wouldn't shock me if neither team budged and Garnett is still in Minnesota past the trade deadline. You'd have to look for a team that overvalues Lakers like Odom, Mihm, ect.. and look for a 3 way deal. I'm guessing that if you find a team that has a high pick in the draft, that would be willing to give up on the future for present help...that's where you'd look.

It will take youth, picks and a young big man to make a deal. I do agree that every step should be made to not have to deal Bynum, but I wouldn't let that be in the way of a Kobe/KG match. The thing that I love about KG is not just his stats, but at this point in his career he is hungry for a ring. He'd be willing to give way to Kobe as being the main man. I also thing he will grow old gracefully. As he gets older, he can bulk up and be something similar to what Karl Malone was late in his career. Maybe he won't be able to get around like he once did, but he'd be an excellent guy to run a screen and roll or hit a jumper. We all know Kobe has the best clutch fadeaway in the game, but KG's is totally unblockable. The only way to get a peice of it is to sneak up from behind.

KB8SD · Star Player Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 1385

The only way KG gets traded to us is if we give up Odom/Bynum/George and the miami 1st round pick.Doesnt KG have a clause in his contract where he can opt out of his contract in a year or two in his current contract extension he signed?

Let say the deal happens what is our roster ?

C: Mihm
PF Kwame
SF: KG
SG:Kobe
PG: Smush

Bench:
PF:Cook
PF:Turiaf
SF:Walton
PG:Hudson
SG:Sasha
SG:Green
SG:Wafer

That would leave us pretty thin at the PF and C positons where Mitch would have to build through the draft with second round picks and use the mid level and 1 million exceptions in the off season.That starting lineup I think would only get us to the WCF the first two years in Phil second run with the Lakers and by the 3rd year we'd have a legit shot at winning another championship if Mitch makes the right moves in the off season.

Also for the 2007 plan this trade would still keep us on track to land a big free agent in 2007 or 2008

Kwame after next season can be gone there goes 8 million off the books/

Cook after next season can be gone since we just picked his option for his 4th year.

Walton I know just signed a 2 year contract extension and could be gone in 2008.

Mihm I think his contract expires in 2007.

Smush's contract isnt that big

And last Brian Grants contract will be off the salary cap in 2007.

tgf5 · Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:

I highly doubt KG will be placed at SF.

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methticaL · Starting Rotation Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 492

trade for Kevin Garnett and sign sebastian telfair next year

angel · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:37 am Post subject:

At some point, KG will realize the T-Wolves are rebuilding. He has been loyal, which is why they owe him. KG will think of his legacy. Mihm's value is increasing. Odom is the closest thing to KG there is. A trade seems possible. Wilt was traded. Kareem was traded. Anybody can be traded. Every season, KG's value goes down. He's wasting his talent on a Minnesota team that looks to miss the Playoffs.
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