Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:48 am Post subject: What the Pistons did to John keuster in 2011 the lakers need to do it to Byron Scott
Those of you who do not remember it's a complete boycott of keuster coaching. Only 6 players showed up for a game. If they do this to Scott it will show a message to Byron that he's clearly not wanted.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:51 am Post subject:
Remember when some posters here thought that Mike Brown and John Kuester combined would be as good as Phil Jackson? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Ben Simmons is clearly wanted by the front office.
Bringing in a new coach doesn't make much sense now imo. Just wait to the offseason
It does make sense. We'll still lose most of our games while trying to adjust, but it would be as bad.
why not give the new coach a full training camp to get adjusted to the team? Why risk any chance of winning more games then necessary and "lowering the chance at a top 2 pick?
I say they write this season off and start fresh next year with a new coach. Also you don't want to bring in just anybody, it has to be a long term solution.
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Edit: looks like if they finish with worst record there is a 35.7% chance they lose the pick. I'll take those odds at this point
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Are you honestly worried about us winning a bunch of games?
If we fire Scott we are not about to start winning 5-10 games in a row lol. We're pretty much destined to have a bottom 3 record at this point. You're safe there.
What it will do is boost team morale. And it will help provide a better foundation for the young guys to grow from
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Are you honestly worried about us winning a bunch of games?
If we fire Scott we are not about to start winning 5-10 games in a row lol. We're pretty much destined to have a bottom 3 record at this point. You're safe there.
What it will do is boost team morale. And it will help provide a better foundation for the young guys to grow from
I'd rather have the worst record if possible. Scott is the man for that job.
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Are you honestly worried about us winning a bunch of games?
If we fire Scott we are not about to start winning 5-10 games in a row lol. We're pretty much destined to have a bottom 3 record at this point. You're safe there.
What it will do is boost team morale. And it will help provide a better foundation for the young guys to grow from
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Are you honestly worried about us winning a bunch of games?
If we fire Scott we are not about to start winning 5-10 games in a row lol. We're pretty much destined to have a bottom 3 record at this point. You're safe there.
What it will do is boost team morale. And it will help provide a better foundation for the young guys to grow from
I'd rather have the worst record if possible. Scott is the man for that job.
That's a bad risk IMO.
We can still lose the pick even with the worst record. And every moment that he is head coach of this team is another moment in a toxic environment for our players.
We need these guys to start developing skill and chemistry playing together. So that in a few years time our young core can become contenders.
Not to mention they're going to need help in FA. Having Byron on board is counter productive to that.
Getting a #1 pick is not going to save us. It'll help but it's not putting us back in the championship next season. It's not worth messing with our current quality picks to try to get one more. Especially when you can't guarantee it.
And if we don't get Simmons and Scott has completely poisoned this team...
Then you get Ingram or the #3 pick. The team inproves. Players aren't so fragile that this ruins them.
Sorry meant what if we don't get a top 3 pick. What was this season about then?
It's the risk that you take. At this point in the season it seems like right play considering that they will likely have either the worst or second worst record in the league.
With the worst record in the league what are the chances of keeping pick? Second worst?
Are you honestly worried about us winning a bunch of games?
If we fire Scott we are not about to start winning 5-10 games in a row lol. We're pretty much destined to have a bottom 3 record at this point. You're safe there.
What it will do is boost team morale. And it will help provide a better foundation for the young guys to grow from
I'd rather have the worst record if possible. Scott is the man for that job.
That's a bad risk IMO.
We can still lose the pick even with the worst record. And every moment that he is head coach of this team is another moment in a toxic environment for our players.
We need these guys to start developing skill and chemistry playing together. So that in a few years time our young core can become contenders.
Not to mention they're going to need help in FA. Having Byron on board is counter productive to that.
Getting a #1 pick is not going to save us. It'll help but it's not putting us back in the championship next season. It's not worth messing with our current quality picks to try to get one more. Especially when you can't guarantee it.
I disagree, Ben Simmons drastically changes the trajectory of the franchise.
I'm also not as high on the other prospects as many on here judging on the ceiling/floor thread. I think it's a good risk to take.
I'm not one to believe Byron has poisoned our young guys permanently. Another season of Byron, yes it wouldbe tragic
BUT if he were to get fired this summer it'd just be a bad story to look back and laugh on.
Lakers don't want to fire Byron for one (or more of a few reasons)
1) Kobe- not that Kobe would be heart broken but just let them play this thing out together then step away.
2) Tank is well and alive- I mean, if you're not trying to lose then why keep the most unsuccessful coach ever? Particularly when he's doing a horrible job in the one area you care about-- developing.
3) Instability- don't want to send a message of insability and yet another coach change mid-season. Do in cleanly in the summer
4) Incompetence- Maybe FO really thinks Byron is okay and they're just as incompetent as him. My gut tells me it's not really this one.
That team vets turned on Keuster like RIP and Prince. This team vets are probably BFF's with Byron. Young players would never have the courage to do that.
On a side not, I lost a lot of respect for those guys who did that to Keuster. Wonder what was going on behind the scenes. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
Most NBA players who can improve, do improve over their first 3 seasons, health permitting. Those first three seasons are essential. The question is whether a player who is drafted by a team with a poor coaching staff cripples the player permanently. Though no one would have a definitive answer, looking at the history of the basket-case franchises isn't encouraging. For example the Clippers historically drafted high first round picks, and precious few of them ever became quality players (Griffin and Manning spring to mind, but that's a pretty low bar).
It's weird on how some folks believe BS was great at developing PGs, and then point to Chris Paul. Paul's a quality scoring PG, a skill set that was instantly translatable to the NBA in terms of impact. BS stinks at player development, the best move would be for the front office to fire him immediately, as he's dampening the development curve for our young players.
I wouldnt mind this because I'm really afraid Byron is back next year. If someone would guarantee that he's gone then let them tank away with Byron at helm...
I wouldnt mind this because I'm really afraid Byron is back next year. If someone would guarantee that he's gone then let them tank away with Byron at helm...
30 + more games and I can choose not to watch.
This is how the Iraqi populace felt about Saddam Hussein when he was toppled and on the run. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
That team vets turned on Keuster like RIP and Prince. This team vets are probably BFF's with Byron. Young players would never have the courage to do that.
On a side not, I lost a lot of respect for those guys who did that to Keuster. Wonder what was going on behind the scenes.
I don't think Byron deserves respect at this point. he doesn't give any respect so why should the players give him respect.
loved him as a player just hate him as a coach lets just leave it at that.
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