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M2K
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Good he finally got the memo from upstairs.  |
The memo read: "If you do anymore damage to our young players, we won't wait until after the season to fire you".
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: |
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I agree OP. Don't want him here past this season.
But he's not the coaching anti-Christ.
I could poke some holes in the "Scott's bad at developing young players" argument.
But what's the point?!
Just let LG vent. We have a horrible record and Byron is low hanging fruit.
Even though most people want the top 3 pick, the process of rebuilding and losing our way to that pick is tough to handle for alot of Lakers fans. LG or otherwise.
When everything isn't sunshine and butterflies and all our franchise's problems don't disappear next year (with no Scott or Kobe). Maybe people will re-evaluate how hyperbolic they were on Scott. That's what happened with me and Mike D'Antoni.
Either way, don't worry about it OP. Scott's getting paid millions to do his dream job. Being judged harshly by some internet Lakers fans isn't such a bad trade-off. I'd take that deal any day of the week.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | I agree OP. Don't want him here past this season.
But he's not the coaching anti-Christ.
I could poke some holes in the "Scott's bad at developing young players" argument.
But what's the point?!
Just let LG vent. We have a horrible record and Byron is low hanging fruit.
Even though most people want the top 3 pick, the process of rebuilding and losing our way to that pick is tough to handle for alot of Lakers fans. LG or otherwise.
When everything isn't sunshine and butterflies and all our franchise's problems don't disappear next year (with no Scott or Kobe). Maybe people will re-evaluate how hyperbolic they were on Scott. That's what happened with me and Mike D'Antoni.
Either way, don't worry about it OP. Scott's getting paid millions to do his dream job. Being judged harshly by some internet Lakers fans isn't such a bad trade-off. I'd take that deal any day of the week. |
What's with the rational discourse? This is the internet, man, start acting like it. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | He handled jc great last year. 3 more months. |
You mean after nailing JC to the bench and only after injuries decimated Nash, price, Lin? |
You're assuming, but this is the truth from Eric Pincus.
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said he wasn't ready - that the individual development was crucial so he was confident when the time came |
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said Byron mapped out his progression from practice player to rotation early - he followed through on it |
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said he had no midrange game when he joined the Lakers - they developed that in him |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:28 am Post subject: |
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"But he's not the coaching anti-Christ."
oh... but yes... yes, he is... |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | He handled jc great last year. 3 more months. |
You mean after nailing JC to the bench and only after injuries decimated Nash, price, Lin? |
You're assuming, but this is the truth from Eric Pincus.
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said he wasn't ready - that the individual development was crucial so he was confident when the time came |
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said Byron mapped out his progression from practice player to rotation early - he followed through on it |
| Quote: | | @ShawnFNBA Clarkson said he had no midrange game when he joined the Lakers - they developed that in him |
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Date of these quotes? Your assumption is that the plan was to have JC play35mpg his rookie year?
Mine is that it took the injuries to Nash, price, Lin to have him consider JC. If not injured he would have languished on the bench. JC's development is a separate issue than whey their Scott was prescient enough to know JC was an all rookie level player.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| April 16th, 2015 and I'm not making any assumptions; You could do what you please with the truth. |
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I would honestly gain some respect for him if he just came out and admitted his mistakes in the handling of young players and everything else. This move just seems like a coward trying to save his own ass.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | April 16th, 2015 and I'm not making any assumptions; You could do what you please with the truth. |
So let me get this straight.
You're asserting that from day 1, Scott's plan was to unleash JC as a 35mpg starter over Lin, Nash, Price (over time)?
Or is it more plausible that due to the rash of injuries (particularly to Price), that Scott had no one left and JC killed it?
Your quotes have nothing to do with the latter and more plausible theory. Of course he's a rookie, but I highly doubt that Scott had plans to unleash him as a 35mpg starter, probably more like 18-20mpg at most.
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| nickuku wrote: | | I would honestly gain some respect for him if he just came out and admitted his mistakes in the handling of young players and everything else. This move just seems like a coward trying to save his own ass. |
No doubt. And like kool aid, some fans (small segment) are buying it.
Remember when Scott said "he's changed" and that he'd consider analytics?
What happened to that?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | nickuku wrote: | | I would honestly gain some respect for him if he just came out and admitted his mistakes in the handling of young players and everything else. This move just seems like a coward trying to save his own ass. |
No doubt. And like kool aid, some fans (small segment) are buying it.
Remember when Scott said "he's changed" and that he'd consider analytics?
What happened to that? |
He did consider it. He just doesn't understand it and the parts that he does understand, he ignores.
Then again, he also ignores common sense, so it's not really all that surprising. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | nickuku wrote: | | I would honestly gain some respect for him if he just came out and admitted his mistakes in the handling of young players and everything else. This move just seems like a coward trying to save his own ass. |
No doubt. And like kool aid, some fans (small segment) are buying it.
Remember when Scott said "he's changed" and that he'd consider analytics?
What happened to that? |
He did consider it. He just doesn't understand it and the parts that he does understand, he ignores.
Then again, he also ignores common sense, so it's not really all that surprising. |
Well... He also doesnt understand common sense
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