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Magic Huertas _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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nash Star Player
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When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
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nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. _________________ #CowboysNation
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Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
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nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore him cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
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nash Star Player
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore hi cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
Agreed.
I told in the other thread I'd start Nance and Bass with Dlo and JC, but the lack of effort on D doesn't have anything to do with the starting lineup. |
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I want to see Huertas rack up assists with Ron and Hibbert and Randle |
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I'm in favor of starting Huertas, CLarkson, Ron, Randle, Hibbert for the lolz |
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nash Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | I want to see Huertas rack up assists with Ron and Hibbert and Randle |
Well, he did it with Sacre.
Unfortunately he can't do anything else well. |
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nash wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore hi cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
Agreed.
I told in the other thread I'd start Nance and Bass with Dlo and JC, but the lack of effort on D doesn't have anything to do with the starting lineup. |
That would definetely be the spark plug that's being looked for. And I think Randle is the one rookie who could the humility and wake-up-call from benching.. |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore hi cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
Agreed.
I told in the other thread I'd start Nance and Bass with Dlo and JC, but the lack of effort on D doesn't have anything to do with the starting lineup. |
That would definetely be the spark plug that's being looked for. And I think Randle is the one rookie who could the humility and wake-up-call from benching.. |
Nance has played better than Randle all season. The only thing keeping Randle in the starting line up is injuries and being number 7 pick |
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Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
I am not a DLO hater but he and clarkson both are playing like crap _________________ Kobe |
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defense wrote: | Nance has played better than Randle all season. The only thing keeping Randle in the starting line up is injuries and being number 7 pick |
No he hasn't. Randle was getting 20 point games and he's been a better rebounder all season.
Right now, yes, Nance is playing better. And yes, for a stretch earlier in the season, Nance was playing better. But not the entire season. _________________ Kobe |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore him cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
I agree with everything you wrote until the last line. We are running motion weak, but it got the Byron treatment - it's so poorly implemented that it devolves into iso garbage. |
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fiendishoc wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
The 3 frontcourt players in the first unit don't move. Randle can't set a screen and his defender clogs the paint. When the guard runs P/R with Hibbert, Hibbert is no threat really he's lumbering, Randle is open on the backside but the guards ignore him cuz he can't shoot. Then a lot of times Randle hesitates setting screens not knowing which side or if he should go up and screen at all - he gets caught in "no man's land" and the ball is just getting pounded in the same spot as a result of the confusion and the extra defender Randle brings. Mix in MWP , lol.
With Huertas unit --- he has Bass who's the best combo of quickest roller and best screener of the rotation bigs. Nance is also a solid screener. Nance' defender doesn't sag on the backside as much. And Lou is good at making himself available and relocating on the 3pt line. Plus Huertas is a master of pace , and the less lumbering bigs help that --- so the offense has pace. bass sprints his lane in transition a lot, and Larry does 2nd most on he team
Most of all the offense is just fricking horrible and full of unnecessary crap or ISO plays.. We looked decent running motion weak when we were. |
I agree with everything you wrote until the last line. We are running motion weak, but it got the Byron treatment - it's so poorly implemented that it devolves into iso garbage. |
Damn, if we ran it well I'd definitely recognize it. Even when we were succeeding with it looked almost like it was being ran it a practice setting a lot of times - guys not being in sync with where to go. Not running it quick, you could see them counting their steps so to speak. That's probably why like you said in another thread - the Suns easily mucked it up, and we have no counters learned |
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nash wrote: | Lakers2015 wrote: | nash wrote: | When your only PG able to run an offense with some consistency is Marcelo, you shouldn't expect to win a lot of games. |
Haha what a surprise Lg's biggest D-Lo hater with another shot at the youngster.
Please whenever D'Angelo is allowed to orchestrate and initate the offense looks like an actual NBA offense. |
It's about Dlo and Clarkson too. They are lacking in the playmaking department and I'm tired to tell I'm not a hater, the player just have to play well and I will praise him, but Clarkson and Dlo aren't playing well last 3 games. I know it happens with rookies, but the lack of effort makes me think if they are trying to fry the coach, because it is blatant. |
I think you and I are the only ones who see DLo as more of a SG than a PG. It explains a lot as to why the starting unit can't get anything going. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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That stealthy steal _________________ Kobe |
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dat steal though never seen anything like it before ahahah that's a savvy veteran move for you |
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He just had the most ingenious play of the season. Lakers should consider keeping him around next season. At the very least, he's a good back-up/third string player who can provide solid PnR play for 4-5 min. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
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Denny_Russo wrote: | He just had the most ingenious play of the season. Lakers should consider keeping him around next season. At the very least, he's a good back-up/third string player who can provide solid PnR play for 4-5 min. |
He's always hustling, knows & loves the game. He is quite entertaining and sometimes hilarious; you have to keep him.
He's an awful defender, nor does he have an outside shot. But for basketball IQ, veteran, on-court savvy, and camaraderie this old fart is worth the price of admission.
From an entertainment perspective, he definitely puts on a show, sometimes good, sometimes bad but he is always performs.
He is infectious, you can't help but love him! |
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Huertas is crazy underrated on LG
And his bad defense is overblown. As is his bad shot because he does get points
He is the player who is consistently game after game getting us back into games after our starting lineup screws things up. We can thank Huertas for the few wins we have
Usually after he subs out, we go into a slump again. It happened again in this recent game but luckily our starters just managed to get the job done
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Chronicle wrote: | That stealthy steal |
Play of the month for me. That was awesome. |
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DancingBarry wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | That stealthy steal |
Play of the month for me. That was awesome. |
The definition of a crafty vet move. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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That steal! |
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