|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 52656
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
|
 Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ChefLinda wrote: | Statement from New England Patriots Chairman and CEO Robert Kraft
| Quote: | "While I was disappointed with the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' decision not to rehear Tom Brady's case, I am most frustrated that Tom was denied his right to a fair and impartial process. The League's investigation into a football pressure matter was flawed and biased from the start, and has been discredited nearly unanimously by accredited academics and scientists.
"The penalty imposed by the NFL was unprecedented, unjust and unreasonable, especially given that no empirical or direct evidence of any kind showed Tom did anything to violate League rules prior to, during or after the 2015 AFC Championship Game. What Tom has had to endure throughout this 18-month ordeal has been, in my opinion, as far removed from due process as you could ever expect in this country.
"From day one, I have believed in Tom and given him my unwavering support in his pursuit to rightfully clear his name of any wrongdoing. That support extends throughout our organization and has only grown more steadfast as the preponderance of scientific evidence has exonerated Tom. Unfortunately, this stopped being about air pressure a long time ago.
"This entire process has indelibly taken a toll on our organization, our fans and most importantly, Tom Brady. His reluctant decision to stop pursuing further action and to put this situation behind him is what he feels is best for the team in preparation for this season and is fully supported by me and our entire organization.
"To our devoted fans, your unwavering support for Tom and our organization have only reinforced our longstanding belief that we have the greatest fans in all of sports. We will continue to unequivocally support Tom and know our fans will rally around him and the rest of the team like never before. Our full focus now is on making the upcoming season a memorable one for all of our fans.” |
|
And has been upheld more than once, despite OWNER and INTERESTED PARTY Robert Kraft's opinion.
Maybe if Kraft and his henchmen hadn't had a sordid record of misdeeds, there'd be more sympathy for his arguments and this incident would have been nothing. His attitude of being some kind of victim is laughable.
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
lakers0505
Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005
Posts: 10701
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure. 
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 52656
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| lakers0505 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure.
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
I think the problem is that some people are focusing on deflate gate as the only issue when it comes to the Patriots.
I think deflate gate was overblown and ridiculously handled by EVERYONE, from the media to the league office and including the Patriots. But the bottom-line is that it has been upheld through arbitration and appeal.
Patriots fans are being completely dishonest if they think that distaste for the Patriots simply stems from deflate gate.
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ChefLinda
Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 24166
Location: Boston
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| DaMuleRules wrote: | | lakers0505 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure.
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
I think the problem is that some people are focusing on deflate gate as the only issue when it comes to the Patriots.
I think deflate gate was overblown and ridiculously handled by EVERYONE, from the media to the league office and including the Patriots. But the bottom-line is that it has been upheld through arbitration and appeal.
Patriots fans are being completely dishonest if they think that distaste for the Patriots simply stems from deflate gate. |
No one is missing that point. Like Chick used to say, this is a "cosmetic call" or a "make-up" call. Even if you believe all other supposed evil things Belichick did, how is fining Brady a quarter of his season in any way, shape or form fair? If you want to punish the Patriots for whatever, you fine them, take away draft picks, whatever. You don't make up (bleep) stuff with no evidence and pin 10 years worth of grievances from other owners and fans on a single player. That's straight up (bleep).
The only thing that was "upheld" is Goodell's right to do anything he wants in terms of punishment. He was the investigator, judge and jury all rolled into one. There was no adjudication of the actual facts. In fact the first judge threw the case out based on the facts. Unfortunately, the binding agreement gave all the power to Goodell, which made the facts irrelevant.
Last edited by ChefLinda on Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 52656
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ChefLinda wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | lakers0505 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure.
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
I think the problem is that some people are focusing on deflate gate as the only issue when it comes to the Patriots.
I think deflate gate was overblown and ridiculously handled by EVERYONE, from the media to the league office and including the Patriots. But the bottom-line is that it has been upheld through arbitration and appeal.
Patriots fans are being completely dishonest if they think that distaste for the Patriots simply stems from deflate gate. |
No one is missing that point. Like Chick used to say, this is a "cosmetic call" or a "make-up" call. Even if you believe all other supposed evil things Belichick did, how is fining Brady a quarter of his season in any way, shape or form fair? If you want to punish the Patriots for whatever, you fine them, take away draft picks, whatever. You don't make up (bleep) stuff with no evidence and pin 10 years worth of grievances from other owners and fans on a single player. That's straight up (bleep). |
Yeah, it's all about "BS grievances" from other teams. Kraft, Belichick and Brady are squeaky clean and never got a break from the evil Goodell who is all about persecuting the poor, put upon but honest Patriot franchise and their glorious and dreamy Drumphie QB. :rolling eyes:
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ChefLinda
Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 24166
Location: Boston
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | lakers0505 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure.
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
I think the problem is that some people are focusing on deflate gate as the only issue when it comes to the Patriots.
I think deflate gate was overblown and ridiculously handled by EVERYONE, from the media to the league office and including the Patriots. But the bottom-line is that it has been upheld through arbitration and appeal.
Patriots fans are being completely dishonest if they think that distaste for the Patriots simply stems from deflate gate. |
No one is missing that point. Like Chick used to say, this is a "cosmetic call" or a "make-up" call. Even if you believe all other supposed evil things Belichick did, how is fining Brady a quarter of his season in any way, shape or form fair? If you want to punish the Patriots for whatever, you fine them, take away draft picks, whatever. You don't make up (bleep) stuff with no evidence and pin 10 years worth of grievances from other owners and fans on a single player. That's straight up (bleep). |
Yeah, it's all about "BS grievances" from other teams. Kraft, Belichick and Brady are squeaky clean and never got a break from the evil Goodell who is all about persecuting the poor, put upon but honest Patriot franchise and their glorious and dreamy Drumphie QB. :rolling eyes: |
Yeah, that's what I expected. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ChefLinda
Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 24166
Location: Boston
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If a commissioner was pulling this (bleep) on the Lakers, everyone here would be going ape (bleep). Just like they did when Dan Gilbert and Mark Cuban whined to Stern that gifting CP3 to the Lakers wasn't "fair" and weasel Stern constructed a false narrative to justify his decision to nix the trade.
Powerful autonomous commissioner + less successful owners jealous of the winning franchise = (bleep) outcome |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
I Bleed P&G
Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Posts: 844
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ChefLinda wrote: | If a commissioner was pulling this (bleep) on the Lakers, everyone here would be going ape (bleep). Just like they did when Dan Gilbert and Mark Cuban whined to Stern that gifting CP3 to the Lakers wasn't "fair" and weasel Stern constructed a false narrative to justify his decision to nix the trade.
Powerful autonomous commissioner + less successful owners jealous of the winning franchise = (bleep) outcome |
No. You're comparing apples to oranges. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ChefLinda
Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 24166
Location: Boston
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
There is none. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jodeke
Retired Number
Joined: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 67702
Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don't believe Patriots did anything other teams weren't doing. Their mistake was getting caught. If they'd been a losing team nothing would have come of it.
_________________
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Omar Little
Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 90306
Location: Formerly Known As 24
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Patriots have a long history of getting extremely favorable treatment.
_________________
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
32
Retired Number
Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Posts: 73070
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Omar Little wrote: | | The Patriots have a long history of getting extremely favorable treatment. |
_________________
Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jodeke
Retired Number
Joined: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 67702
Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Patriots have a long history of winning. IMO thinking they won because of favorable treatment would be buying into a conspiracy theory and discounting the talents of Brady, Belichick and damn good football teams.
_________________
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DaMuleRules
Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006
Posts: 52656
Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
|
| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ChefLinda wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | lakers0505 wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | Steelers fan, and I have no love whatsoever for the Patriots.
But this whole thing was ridiculous.
I guess I must have missed all of the evidence that 'convicted' Brady.
Anyone want to break it down for me? You know, in real simple terms. |
PV = NRT.
I understand irrational hate, I mean I loved hating on Lebron for years. However their is being a fan and jokingly not liking someone, and then you have what the NFL did in this instance.
The NFL had flawed data. These goofball didn't understand temperature influenced pressure.
Essentially the case blew up because they are imbeciles along with poor ESPN reporting. They had to pin a punishment on the Patriots, for a power issue, so they spun into something unrelated to actual deflating of footballs.
If I'm the NFL players, you need to strongly consider a significant hold out down the line. They should be getting more money, and fairer treatment with these punishments. |
I think the problem is that some people are focusing on deflate gate as the only issue when it comes to the Patriots.
I think deflate gate was overblown and ridiculously handled by EVERYONE, from the media to the league office and including the Patriots. But the bottom-line is that it has been upheld through arbitration and appeal.
Patriots fans are being completely dishonest if they think that distaste for the Patriots simply stems from deflate gate. |
No one is missing that point. Like Chick used to say, this is a "cosmetic call" or a "make-up" call. Even if you believe all other supposed evil things Belichick did, how is fining Brady a quarter of his season in any way, shape or form fair? If you want to punish the Patriots for whatever, you fine them, take away draft picks, whatever. You don't make up (bleep) stuff with no evidence and pin 10 years worth of grievances from other owners and fans on a single player. That's straight up (bleep). |
Yeah, it's all about "BS grievances" from other teams. Kraft, Belichick and Brady are squeaky clean and never got a break from the evil Goodell who is all about persecuting the poor, put upon but honest Patriot franchise and their glorious and dreamy Drumphie QB. :rolling eyes: |
Yeah, that's what I expected. |
Hey, you needlessly started with silly cheap shots like "This reminds me of bitter Celtics fans calling the Lakers the Fakers and Pop and Dan Gilbert whining about the Lakers cheating by getting CP3 or Pau" because you didn't like what people were saying, so please save me the hypocritical holier than thou condescension . . .
Alright?
Thanks.
I'll step away from this discussion and leave you to your rabid defense of the Patriots . . .
_________________
You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
