Steve Francis Available? Good fit for the Lakers?

lakersdynasty999 · Star Player Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 1893

I havent heard much news about him to the Lakers, but what if we could get him to play the point with kobe in the backcourt. I'd only want to work out a trade if we could keep Lamar with similar offers to that of Artest. Maybe they want Kwame to play with D. Howard in the front court, or could be interested in Slava and George's expiring contracts?

A reasonable trade could be something like Smush Slava and George for Francis. Makes some sense for both teams.

Gives the Lakers a true second option and will allow Lamar to do his thing, and maybe you can move him back in the post with Francis taking the ball up the court. Gives Orlando cap room next year and who doesnt want Slava???

Anyways, Lakers lineup could look something like this:

If we traded kwame:
Mihm, Lamar, George, Kobe, Francis
or
If we traded the others:
Mihm Kwame Lamar Kobe Francis

What do you all think?
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Hector the Pup · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject:

Good lord no.

angel · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject:

As long as the main player in the deal is DG.

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tgf5 · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject:

Even if Francis is a complete cancer, if we traded him for crap I'd still do it and at least give it a shot. Though I don't think it's ever going to happen.

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Do it. It can't possibly get any worse here.
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject:

Just so ya know, there are a couple threads on this since maybe a 4-6
weeks ago when Franchise got his suspension - so ya might be able to
see some reactions there too...

No thanks from me on Franchise. His behavior rap-sheet is nearly as
bad as Artest's if you look all the crap up he's done... except he's not
nearly the talent.

Ball-dominant, score-first PG - not a good fit aside Kobe, IMO.

Throw his attitude problems in there and I'm not sure I'd take him for free.

tgf5 · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject:

He's been great since he's come back and taken a lesser offensive role and Orlando has actually played well. Wouldn't know how he would be in a Laker situation unless we saw it ourselves.

Walter Sobchak · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject:

Yay, another one of these Steve Francis threads!

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20,000 · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject:

I remember Steve Francis threads from last summer too. The board seemed split, between people who just wanted anything, and people who did not want a cancer on the team.

Ah, those were the days.
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Ank · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject:

I think if we can get him for Kwame+pick or George+ Slava+pick . . . Id do it. If its not a great fit for Kobe, we can always trade him for picks etc. The point is, we've made a series of trades that lower talent. We need to do the opposite now. If Francis finishes the season here with 20/3/7 or something, he will be very valuable in the offseason. Second scoring option is great too. Francis will defer to Kobe.

Kobina returns · Starting Rotation Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 701

I'd take him in a heartbeat, problem is we have no one to offer him besides Lamar unless the Magic are insane.
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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53835

if they will take a package involving any combination of devean, sasha, slava, cook then yes. if not, then no.
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dag32 · Starting Rotation Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 177

Take this for what it's worth but here is a quote from an article in a FL paper.

easybreeze · Star Player Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 2381

His style is too similar to kobe's. I don't think Phil would go for it. And Mitch will do what ever Phil wants.

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Walter Sobchak · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:

Lamar Odom's salary:
2005-2006: $11,465,500
2006-2007: $12,489,000
2007-2008: $13,524,000
2008-2009: $14,559,000

Steve Francis's salary:
2005-2006: $13,770,000
2006-2007: $15,070,000
2007-2008: $16,440,000
2008-2009: $17,180,000

If Francis comes here and it doesn't work the Lakers would never be able to get rid of him. He'd be our version of Stephon Marbury for slightly less money.
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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53835

you know zeke wants him.

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gdballa03 · Starting Rotation Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 263

We should be willing to experiment anything right now. Losing 3 straight, double digit losses at that?!?! He's better than Smush...I say take him...

AirKobe8 · Star Player Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 8586

Well, at this point I'd give Lamar + Slava for him and Mario Kasun
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Walter Sobchak · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject:

Would the Lakers be trading Lamar to get him or would they hope that Orlando just bails out for Kwame and George (which actually would work)? If the Lakers trade Odom then they just traded their best rebounder for an undersized shooting guard who's playing the 1 out of position and who gets barely more assists than Lamar did:

Mihm
Kwame
George
Kobe
Francis

Like that? If the Lakers trade Kwame and George they'll have a pretty good starting lineup, but say goodbye to the 2007 plan and say hello to the 2009 plan if the Lakers can't win a title with this lineup:

Mihm
Cook
Lamar
Kobe
Francis

The Laker bench would be ok in the backcourt (where it wouldn't be needed unless there was an injury) and the bench for the frontcourt would be absolutely miserable and woefully thin with Bynum and Walton being the only guys off the bench for Mihm, Cook and Odom. Think that lineup is gonna beat Phoenix when they get Amare back? How bout the Spurs? How bout the Spurs next year when they're actually healthy again? How bout the Pistons? If not, the Lakers will be stuck with that same lineup for the next four seasons relying on late round draft picks and the veteran exception to improve. To me that's not enough to get another ring unless Bynum really does become insanely good in the next 2 years and Kobe, Odom & Francis all get along ok.
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

NOODLESTYLE · Star Player Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 2977

If we could get Steve Francis for our scrubs like DG, Slava, BG's contract...etc I'd take him. He might be decent under the triangle. Since the Triangle he'd be more of a shooting guard which that is the type of player he really is. It would definatley give the Lakers another option of scoring and it would officially put Lamar at his beloved 3rd option scorer. I'd do it on the basis if we don't trade anyone that can actually produce on this team.

Walter Sobchak · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: