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blackmamba08
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| I said to myself I will wait 15 games and grade his coaching. But I do not like what I see. He is speaking about defense all the time but I cannot see any of that. Some people say it was some progress last year. I didn't see it , still waiting. But also people will say his name all the time but we have to stay cold and see. Cant judge after one game. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Staccatos wrote: | | Luke's rotations are like he's playing yahtzee. WTF is he doing? People were saying he's experimenting in pre-season.... well I don't think he's experimenting, he just doesn't know what he's doing. |
He’s been “experimenting” for 3 damn years. And none of it works. Because he tries way too damn hard to jam square pegs into a round hole...when the round pegs are right in front of him...and logic itself yelling behind him to pick those (bleep) round pegs and put it into the round holes.
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LakerMindLA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | So are people's complaints about Luke that he played Lonzo w/ Beasley + Lance and that Kuzma is playing too much 5? Not starting Lonzo?
This is the roster that he was given... our backup center rotation is non-existent though I would say Zu should get mins. Lance was a guy signed to be the backup 3.
Anyway, he's a mins split that's worth considering even if it doesn't involve Lance and Beasley:
McGee (22) | Zubac (18) | LeBron (4) | Kuzma (4)
LeBron (20) | Kuzma (28)
Ingram (34) | LeBron (8) | KCP (6)
J Hart (30) | KCP (14) | Lonzo (4)
Lonzo (26) Rondo (22) |
I'd like to see this rotation. When Kuzma is playing center, we need to have either Lebron or Ingram and Ball in the game to help with rebounding.
McGee (22) | Kuzma (18) | Zubac (8)
LeBron (34) | Kuzma (14)
Ingram (34) | J Hart (14)
KCP (28) | J Hart (16) | Lonzo (4)
Lonzo (26) Rondo (22) |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | Beasley should never play besides garbage time. And Lance shouldn’t play 16 minutes either.
Svi and Wear could have shared those 18 minutes that Lance and Beasley got in total. |
Did Wear make the team? I'd rather have him be backup C than Kuz. |
We desperately need a decent back-up center and some real shooters. Kuz definitely does not need to play center; but Wear is soft as tissue and is not a viable option at center either. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Mo Wagner was definitely the guy we groomed to be the backup Center.
His injury is a set-back for us. Whatever the hell his injury is.
Seriously it’s been over 3 months since his “bruise”. When the hell is he coming back?
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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It's the first game of the season. There are 5 new players in our 10 man rotation. And maybe Svi cracks the rotation sometime too (another new player).
There's a reason why Magic said he expects a slow start.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | It's the first game of the season. There are 5 new players in our 10 man rotation. And maybe Svi cracks the rotation sometime too (another new player).
There's a reason why Magic said he expects a slow start. |
I also except slow starts but not due to moronic rotations/subs.
Losing because of idiotic coaching is the worst.
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2019
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
I'm going to take it this was directed at me...
Yeah I think to a certain extent they built the roster the way they observed "based on last year's playoffs" <- Magic's words.
Luke doesn't go out there and sign guys so even if he felt like Beasley, Kuz, LeBron, Zu, Wagner were enough, they could have and should have gotten someone anyway.
My gut tells me that Luke would have liked another guy like McGee. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
I'm going to take it this was directed at me...
Yeah I think to a certain extent they built the roster the way they observed "based on last year's playoffs" <- Magic's words.
Luke doesn't go out there and sign guys so even if he felt like Beasley, Kuz, LeBron, Zu, Wagner were enough, they could have and should have gotten someone anyway.
My gut tells me that Luke would have liked another guy like McGee. |
I’m not ready to take issue with the roster. The roster construction doesn’t require you to play Kuzma exclusively at center.
It’s a waste of his skill set and development as a player. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | It's the first game of the season. There are 5 new players in our 10 man rotation. And maybe Svi cracks the rotation sometime too (another new player).
There's a reason why Magic said he expects a slow start. |
I also except slow starts but not due to moronic rotations/subs.
Losing because of idiotic coaching is the worst. |
What rotations/subs would've made more sense in your opinion?
I'm in no way saying Luke is perfect.
But losing to a POR team (that was a 3rd seed last year and brought back 90% of their roster) down the stretch in the 4th. Isn't too surprising/disappointing to me.
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LKA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| blackmamba08 wrote: | | I said to myself I will wait 15 games and grade his coaching. But I do not like what I see. He is speaking about defense all the time but I cannot see any of that. Some people say it was some progress last year. I didn't see it , still waiting. But also people will say his name all the time but we have to stay cold and see. Cant judge after one game. |
We were 13th in defensive rating last season .. in 16-17 we were dead last |
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2019
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
I'm going to take it this was directed at me...
Yeah I think to a certain extent they built the roster the way they observed "based on last year's playoffs" <- Magic's words.
Luke doesn't go out there and sign guys so even if he felt like Beasley, Kuz, LeBron, Zu, Wagner were enough, they could have and should have gotten someone anyway.
My gut tells me that Luke would have liked another guy like McGee. |
I’m not ready to take issue with the roster. The roster construction doesn’t require you to play Kuzma exclusively at center.
It’s a waste of his skill set and development as a player. |
so how do you do it? Zu or Wagner are the only options unless Beasley goes there |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
I'm going to take it this was directed at me...
Yeah I think to a certain extent they built the roster the way they observed "based on last year's playoffs" <- Magic's words.
Luke doesn't go out there and sign guys so even if he felt like Beasley, Kuz, LeBron, Zu, Wagner were enough, they could have and should have gotten someone anyway.
My gut tells me that Luke would have liked another guy like McGee. |
I’m not ready to take issue with the roster. The roster construction doesn’t require you to play Kuzma exclusively at center.
It’s a waste of his skill set and development as a player. |
so how do you do it? Zu or Wagner are the only options unless Beasley goes there |
I would do Beasley or Zu.
Kuz didnt look at all like last years version of him, let alone a better version of last season with an extra year under his belt. He looked out of sorts, confused.
And seemed outmatched inside on offense going against bigger guys. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | I lol Everytime I hear: this was the roster given to him by FO.
So u guys r saying the fo didn't even reach out to Luke or talked to him on any FA decisions? |
I'm going to take it this was directed at me...
Yeah I think to a certain extent they built the roster the way they observed "based on last year's playoffs" <- Magic's words.
Luke doesn't go out there and sign guys so even if he felt like Beasley, Kuz, LeBron, Zu, Wagner were enough, they could have and should have gotten someone anyway.
My gut tells me that Luke would have liked another guy like McGee. |
I’m not ready to take issue with the roster. The roster construction doesn’t require you to play Kuzma exclusively at center.
It’s a waste of his skill set and development as a player. |
so how do you do it? Zu or Wagner are the only options unless Beasley goes there |
I would do Beasley or Zu.
Kuz didnt look at all like last years version of him, let alone a better version of last season with an extra year under his belt. He looked out of sorts, confused.
And seemed outmatched inside on offense going against bigger guys. |
Zu looks like a deer in the headlights more often than not and Beasley is no center plus he just sucks. Well they both do but I guess Zubac is the only option until Wagner comes back . |
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LakerMindLA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | It's the first game of the season. There are 5 new players in our 10 man rotation. And maybe Svi cracks the rotation sometime too (another new player).
There's a reason why Magic said he expects a slow start. |
I also except slow starts but not due to moronic rotations/subs.
Losing because of idiotic coaching is the worst. |
What rotations/subs would've made more sense in your opinion?
I'm in no way saying Luke is perfect.
But losing to a POR team (that was a 3rd seed last year and brought back 90% of their roster) down the stretch in the 4th. Isn't too surprising/disappointing to me. |
It was a mistake to go back to the starting unit with 7 minutes remaining in the 4th.
The team was playing well to end the 3rd and to start the 4th other than Lance. Luke should have pulled Lance much earlier (brought Ingram in for him) and kept Hart and Kuzma in the game. The game was lost the moment Luke made wholesale changes in the 4th instead of pulling the weak link. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe Luke should consider Travis Wear at backup C
At least he can shoot |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | It's the first game of the season. There are 5 new players in our 10 man rotation. And maybe Svi cracks the rotation sometime too (another new player).
There's a reason why Magic said he expects a slow start. |
I also except slow starts but not due to moronic rotations/subs.
Losing because of idiotic coaching is the worst. |
What rotations/subs would've made more sense in your opinion?
I'm in no way saying Luke is perfect.
But losing to a POR team (that was a 3rd seed last year and brought back 90% of their roster) down the stretch in the 4th. Isn't too surprising/disappointing to me. |
Kikanga is correct. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:27 am Post subject: |
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I didn’t see anything too wrong with what Luke did last night. Yes Lance played a lot, but one of his stretches was at a time Ingram and Kuz weren’t really playing well, so I didn’t think it was bad.
Playing KCP wasn’t too bad either, I know Hart was playing great but I still think KCP plays defense better against guards than Josh does, so I didn’t mind that much either. In fact I think I remember him playing both Hart and KCP together which works.
Luke isn’t the one that started off 0 for 15 from three. I think that’s what hurt us more than Luke today.
He’s not perfect but I will wait a few real games before calling for his head. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:28 am Post subject: |
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The Kuz surrounded by 4 guards lineup probably isn't it. Probably.
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Even Portland's SPL team was chock full of continuity. They had a large group of guys who were on their regular season rotation playing in a meaningless SPL finals game.
Continuity is their advantage right now more so than talent level.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| He's got his work cut out trying to make us an average team defensively. That's the only thing I'm worried about. |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The Kuz surrounded by 4 guards lineup probably isn't it. Probably. |
Luke needs to understand their is only 1 Dre green and it works cause the guy is v good defensively.
I haven't heard any other team forcing the small ball when they don't have the personal |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The Kuz surrounded by 4 guards lineup probably isn't it. Probably. |
Luke needs to understand their is only 1 Dre green and it works cause the guy is v good defensively.
I haven't heard any other team forcing the small ball when they don't have the personal |
Only the Nets, but at least the Nets coach understands the point of small ball offense.
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