Luke was not put in a position to succeed, and he was unable to rise above it. It’s unfortunate, but hopefully he will get a chance to coach at UCLA, or Arizona, or as a lead assistant, and will continue to learn and grow, and then we can rehire him down the road and he can achieve Lakers redemption.
How many coaches are put into a position to succeed? Especially an inexperienced coach?
Look at Doc Rivers. Dude came to the Clippers w/ CP3, Deandre Jordan and Blake Griffin.
They've all been traded away within the last 2 years, plus, they traded away Tobias Harris and Avery Bradley.
And the Clippers are still making a playoff push.
I can't say that the Clippers put Doc Rivers in a position to win.
I’m not sure Doc Rivers is the right guy to compare Luke to.
1. Doc is highly experienced and has had many years to learn on-the-job how to be a good coach. Maybe he was better to start with, but he still got fired from his first gig in Orlando.
2. Doc has been the Clippers coach since 2013. A few more years to build the culture they way he wanted, which he could do because ...
3. Doc was, until fairly recently, also the team president. So he had the final word (or at least one of them) in which players were on the team. He probably had a strong say or final say in trading cp3 and Griffin. He doesn’t hold that title anymore but he reports directly to Ballmer and wields a lot more power than Luke does.
It doesn’t really matter, because Luke will take the blame. But the Clippers are a shining example of how to empower a coach. The Lakers are not.
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
I feel you guys, I am pissed of at Jeanie, Rob, Luke and Magic, ok less at Magic because he was my favourite player growing up in the 80s.
I am a C Level officer at a relevant company.
I understand Jeannie won’t go away, as well as Magic.
We should fire the f ck out of Luke and his coaching staff buddies as well as Rob “no friends” Pelinka.That is the only positive for next season, I have no illusions a cool Silicon Valley billionaire will buy us and change our culture.
The Zubac trade cannot be explained by the highest IQ on Earth and why the f ck Luke Midget Mind Walton has not played Mo Wagner more than 10 minutes today is absurdly crazy.
I am not advocating pro Jennie and Magic, just trying to save next season.
In hindsight, I'm glad the coaching staff wanted Julius and Brook.
I actually thought those 2 guys could be replaced with production from McGee and Kuzma. But I was wrong.
Of course if the FO does well this summer and the Lakers luck into a high pick, then it doesn't matter anyway. But at this point of the season, they would have been nice to-haves.
Can't wait until this fool is finally fired. 3 years now he's shown 0 offensive strategy or scheme, no in game adjustments, and his rotations are still ridiculously bad. Get him outta here!
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If so, it's because he learned from mistakes here and doesn't have an overbearing FO that undercuts his offensive/defensive philosophies -- an overly charitable characterization, to be sure -- with a mis-matched roster of has-beens and never-weres.
Playing Luke's transition game?
They might win some games on offense.
But can't see them being good enough defensively to do much.
With Luke’s offense, Booker would forget how to shoot, thus making him a useless player. Same with Oubre. Zion would never develop an outside shot and would constantly get teased into being benched/starting (see Julius Randle).
That would have been smart because I was also pushing for a Fizdale hire. Would have been a great coach here instead of the current moron we have right now.
Playing Luke's transition game?
They might win some games on offense.
But can't see them being good enough defensively to do much.
With Luke’s offense, Booker would forget how to shoot, thus making him a useless player. Same with Oubre. Zion would never develop an outside shot and would constantly get teased into being benched/starting (see Julius Randle).
And of course, the defense would be horrible.
Luke doesn’t have an “offensive scheme” in case you haven’t noticed. It’s streetball offense and let the ball handler figure out what to do after a screen is set.
There’s just too much hate on these forums right now.
Just about every coach in the league gets this same hate from their fans. We hate on every coach we get like they are the worst coach ever, but then many of them go to other teams and do well. The grass is always greener on the other side. Luke will have no problems finding another team to take him on if the Lakers let him go this summer (I don’t think they will).
The difference between winning and losing in this league is a very fine line. It takes not only quality players, coaching, management, and leadership, but also it has to do with finding the right combination of these assets. It doesn’t always have to do with find the best players, coaches, etc. But instead finding the ones that fit together in ways that are not always obvious. A lot of it is just luck.
Injuries were the Lakers biggest issue by far this year. Luke, Magic, Rob, were not why we fell apart as the season went on. They can all do better, and I believe they will as they get more experience. A lot of the changes they want to make can’t happen in one season (or one off season). Trades take two teams, so if the other team won’t trade, our options are greatly reduced. The only move/s I really thought were clear mistakes was not signing Randle (our best player last year) and to a lesser extent Brook Lopez.
Many of the questionable moves the Lakers have made are just to put us in a position where we can sign a great player. It doesn’t mean we will. All you can do as management is see the opportunities coming and put your team in a position to take advantage of them. They did exactly that and got LeBron which was amazing. However, so far, it hasn’t worked for a second player. None the less they need to keep putting in positions where we can get another great player if we want to be a great team again. You can only be so smart about the moves you make, after that it takes a lot of luck. Magic is a very lucky guy, so lets hope for the best.
I want to see everyone back next year (coaches, management, and many of the players) - healthy. I want to see what adding a couple new players will do for us and what another year of experience do for our current players, coaches, and management.
Every team is loaded with fans (fans?) that hate on their team. Lets try to be better than that and support our team because everyone of the coaches, management, and players are working their butt’s off to make us a success again. And given time (and a little luck) I believe they will.
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