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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | I freaking hated his 4th quarter rotations especially leaving Russell out for WAYYYY too long but most of this game was well coached by him, especially offensively.
Good stuff Luke. |
The bench unit was rolling and he rode with it in the fourth. |
When the bench came in, LAL was down 6...they drove that to a 4pt lead that they then held onto for almost 4 minutes.
Luke rode that because they'd got the lead, and held it - smart coaching, since they were on a roll
When they finally let that drop down to only 2, Luke swapped some starters in - which was also the smart thing to do and the smart time to do it |
Agreed. He was coaching tonight. |
It was also a good message to send to the 2nd unit (and the 1st, for that matter) - "you got us the lead, if you can hold it, you're staying in even though it's late in a game we have a chance to win"
pretty significant vote of confidence
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1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes. 
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. 
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| Megaton wrote: | Lou not playing many minutes tho was a major plus I will say.
Even Rockets fans are giving props to Luke. |
14 minutes. I must be dreaming.  |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
it was tonight. He made plays. Period. It's all good though. I respect your opinion.
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | Lou not playing many minutes tho was a major plus I will say.
Even Rockets fans are giving props to Luke. |
14 minutes. I must be dreaming. |
14 minutes, 12 points, 2 assists and 3 steals. Some nice defense tonight.
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
it was tonight. He made plays. Period. It's all good though. I respect your opinion. |
Lou was +17 today on the court, and while he got burned on defense at times, the entire team did. His defense was honestly solid.
I complain about Lou at times too, but it's ridiculous to suggest he wasn't extremely important in helping the team win.
I don't respect that opinion. |
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| tox wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
it was tonight. He made plays. Period. It's all good though. I respect your opinion. |
Lou was +17 today on the court, and while he got burned on defense at times, the entire team did. His defense was honestly solid.
I complain about Lou at times too, but it's ridiculous to suggest he wasn't extremely important in helping the team win.
I don't respect that opinion. |
I respect his opinion of lou as a player. I just don't agree with it. He balled tonight.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | Lou not playing many minutes tho was a major plus I will say.
Even Rockets fans are giving props to Luke. |
14 minutes. I must be dreaming. |
14 minutes, 12 points, 2 assists and 3 steals. Some nice defense tonight. |
Damn good game by Lou!!
He gave us his usual offense but tonight he actually contributed on defense.
Luke did a great job of managing this game. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | Lou not playing many minutes tho was a major plus I will say.
Even Rockets fans are giving props to Luke. |
14 minutes. I must be dreaming. |
14 minutes, 12 points, 2 assists and 3 steals. Some nice defense tonight. |
Uhh...no not really.
But 14 minutes is the sweet spot for him. Good enough for him to get his points while he doesn't overstay his welcome.
If he's consistently just 15 minutes or less, that's a win.
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Too much showboating by our young guys tonight. Hopefully Luke talks to them about it, they've gotta be more business like in their approach to the game. The Spurs killed the Warriors by 30 last night, yet they still went about it the right way.
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| tox wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
it was tonight. He made plays. Period. It's all good though. I respect your opinion. |
Lou was +17 today on the court, and while he got burned on defense at times, the entire team did. His defense was honestly solid.
I complain about Lou at times too, but it's ridiculous to suggest he wasn't extremely important in helping the team win.
I don't respect that opinion. |
I feel like it had more to do with the rotations than anything. Pairing him with Ingram, Nance and Black helped the unit as a whole defensively and they didn't make the same mistakes as the first unit, although we saw Ennis, Gordon take it straight to Lou every single time down the court. He gives up so much size on the court that it's worth limiting his minutes the way Luke did tonight. Ingram was a +10 by the way.
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Luke Walton....our son.
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| Andre2K wrote: | | Too much showboating by our young guys tonight. Hopefully Luke talks to them about it, they've gotta be more business like in their approach to the game. The Spurs killed the Warriors by 30 last night, yet they still went about it the right way. |
This is the first relevant NBA game any of them have ever played. Let them have their night.
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| Just no shame in bringing mwp in as a thug. |
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| Andre2K wrote: | | Too much showboating by our young guys tonight. Hopefully Luke talks to them about it, they've gotta be more business like in their approach to the game. The Spurs killed the Warriors by 30 last night, yet they still went about it the right way. |
True but they are very young and playing a fun game. I'll let it pass for now. |
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Great win! 1 down. 81 to go.
Where is that perfect season thread IG made months ago?
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| kobe_4_mvp wrote: | | Just no shame in bringing mwp in as a thug. |
Loved that. Trying to put Harden on tilt.
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| Andre2K wrote: | | Too much showboating by our young guys tonight. Hopefully Luke talks to them about it, they've gotta be more business like in their approach to the game. The Spurs killed the Warriors by 30 last night, yet they still went about it the right way. |
With the Spurs that probably has more to do with the personalities of their players. I don't have a problem with players celebrating because the NFL is showing us how garbage it is when they have to dial it down. |
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| Andre2K wrote: | | Too much showboating by our young guys tonight. Hopefully Luke talks to them about it, they've gotta be more business like in their approach to the game. The Spurs killed the Warriors by 30 last night, yet they still went about it the right way. |
Cmon now, kids were hyped.
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | 1) He made the adjustment of not playing Lou and Clarkson together in the second unit. That line-up gave up too much size and it killed them defensively in the preseason games.
2) Lou played 14 minutes.
MWP stole some of his minutes. I'm okay with that happening every game.
Keep it that way Luke. |
without lou, we don't win tonight. |
That has never been the case at any point in Lou's career. I don't think it will change anytime soon. |
it was tonight. He made plays. Period. It's all good though. I respect your opinion. |
Lou was +17 today on the court, and while he got burned on defense at times, the entire team did. His defense was honestly solid.
I complain about Lou at times too, but it's ridiculous to suggest he wasn't extremely important in helping the team win.
I don't respect that opinion. |
I feel like it had more to do with the rotations than anything. Pairing him with Ingram, Nance and Black helped the unit as a whole defensively and they didn't make the same mistakes as the first unit, although we saw Ennis, Gordon take it straight to Lou every single time down the court. He gives up so much size on the court that it's worth limiting his minutes the way Luke did tonight. Ingram was a +10 by the way. |
Lou was by far the best +/-, and he had 12 points, 2 assists, and 3 steals in 14 minutes (efficient shooting as well).
Rotations helped. Not being on the court much when Harden was helped. Nevertheless, Lou had an effective game today. It wouldn't kill you to admit that, even if it doesn't change your overall opinion of his game. |
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I think Lou's help defense was solid, but his man defense was terrible. Really, for me, I'm iffy on Lou... but for me to be okay with playing him, you can't have Black and him on the floor at the same time. You need Nance, Zubac or Mozgov behind Lou because without a shotblocker, there is just too easy of a path to the rim for the player he is defending.
Other than that, while not as big of a problem in this game, is that he's really streaky. There were games last year where he couldn't miss, and then games where he would only miss while doing nothing else to help the team. I'd rather just give his minutes to Clarkson, Young and even Ingram at the 2. However, I would agree that for this last game at least, he as a net positive, but just barely. HIs +/- really has everything to do with not being on the floor with Harden.
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