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| Watching the Celtics and Warriors play right now... I can literally see the offensive flow.. Its ridiculous the way we have NO flow at all |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Things I've noticed about Celtics: They set off ball screens all over the floor. The ball handler always has a quick screen coming. Before the ball handler makes his move towards the ball, the screener is already right behind him. Once the screen is set, they quickly go into a screen and roll other wise, they look for the cutter off the off ball screen. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Things I've noticed about the Warriors: They have like 200 passes before a shot goes up... |
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| Quote: | Mike BresnahanVerified account
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Luke Walton has told all Lakers who shoot threes in games that they must make 100 each day after practice.
The Lakers have stalled at the three-point line all season, including 3-for-27 last night vs. Philly.
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| bonkers wrote: | | Quote: | Mike BresnahanVerified account
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Luke Walton has told all Lakers who shoot threes in games that they must make 100 each day after practice.
The Lakers have stalled at the three-point line all season, including 3-for-27 last night vs. Philly.
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I really hope these are quality threes with supervision, not just a numerical target. |
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| bonkers wrote: | | Quote: | Mike BresnahanVerified account
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Luke Walton has told all Lakers who shoot threes in games that they must make 100 each day after practice.
The Lakers have stalled at the three-point line all season, including 3-for-27 last night vs. Philly.
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Good start. Now get their asses a shooting coach!! |
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AFireInside619
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Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
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What was the track record of college coaches succeeding in the NBA?
And I believe no one knew Steve was going to be a good coach.
Wasn't his front office work just ok? I forget how he did in Phoenix. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
The no d thing continues to be a meme, but when he's had any sort of talent his team's have been decent defensively. Been bouncing between just in and just out if top ten this year, were top five with Knicks when he got an anchor, last year were mid pack, as they were in Phoenix. He's just brilliant offensively and his quick pace was ahead if the fans and the league, so people thought it was all run no d.
If you want to watch something eye opening, watch how he used raja bell as a man defender and Marion as a fix everything guy to cover for some awful guys around them. There's some actual quality and novel scheme stuff there.
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
The no d thing continues to be a meme, but when he's had any sort of talent his team's have been decent defensively. Been bouncing between just in and just out if top ten this year, were top five with Knicks when he got an anchor, last year were mid pack, as they were in Phoenix. He's just brilliant offensively and his quick pace was ahead if the fans and the league, so people thought it was all run no d.
If you want to watch something eye opening, watch how he used raja bell as a man defender and Marion as a fix everything guy to cover for some awful guys around them. There's some actual quality and novel scheme stuff there. |
Yes, The Matrix will always be remembered because how he help shut down Lebron in the Finals. I forgot how good Bell was as a defender in Phoenix. |
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AFireInside619
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| epak wrote: | What was the track record of college coaches succeeding in the NBA?
And I believe no one knew Steve was going to be a good coach.
Wasn't his front office work just ok? I forget how he did in Phoenix. |
Sorry. It just bums me out that The Celtics have always over-achieved year after year with Stevens. It was a culture changer. Shipping out Rondo so they wouldn't butt heads was the best thing they could have done for Stevens. The rest was on him. |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
I give Phil a lot of (bleep) as an exec, but he did try to sign Kerr.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
I give Phil a lot of (bleep) as an exec, but he did try to sign Kerr. |
And Porzingis! |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | Every front office in the league should be fired for not identifying and going after Brad Stevens and Steve Kerr. With the exception of the Heat & the Spurs. And we let the Pringles man go? Imagine how fun DLO would have under that dude. No defense, no problem. Just score more than the other team.
I still have hope for Luke though. |
The no d thing continues to be a meme, but when he's had any sort of talent his team's have been decent defensively. Been bouncing between just in and just out if top ten this year, were top five with Knicks when he got an anchor, last year were mid pack, as they were in Phoenix. He's just brilliant offensively and his quick pace was ahead if the fans and the league, so people thought it was all run no d.
If you want to watch something eye opening, watch how he used raja bell as a man defender and Marion as a fix everything guy to cover for some awful guys around them. There's some actual quality and novel scheme stuff there. |
Yes, The Matrix will always be remembered because how he help shut down Lebron in the Finals. I forgot how good Bell was as a defender in Phoenix. |
Couldn't stand him, but it's not a surprise the one game Bell goes down Kobe goes for 50 in '06 (albeit in OT) |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | epak wrote: | What was the track record of college coaches succeeding in the NBA?
And I believe no one knew Steve was going to be a good coach.
Wasn't his front office work just ok? I forget how he did in Phoenix. |
Sorry. It just bums me out that The Celtics have always over-achieved year after year with Stevens. It was a culture changer. Shipping out Rondo so they wouldn't butt heads was the best thing they could have done for Stevens. The rest was on him. |
I hear ya. The Celts success is making me vomit. |
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I really think the Lakers need a coach with cache to coach them next year with George and James.
They need a guy who is not only smart, but also garners instant respect on name alone.
Any chance they kick the tires on Coach K again, maybe even Calipari or Tubby Smith? |
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| ltsmash wrote: | | Luke just does not have enough in-game or X and O experience. I still like the hire because I think he can create a cohesive group of guys who can play together. However, he needs a lot of help with in-game adjustments. As a whole, I think the entire Lakers team is missing experienced coaches who have a history of 1) teaching young players; and 2) reading and reacting to adjustments made by the other team. It reminds me of when Jerry West hired Hubie Brown to coach the Grizz. It was an odd choice but it made sense when Jerry said he wanted Hubie to teach the guys how to play basketball the right way. The Lakers need someone like that for their coaching staff. |
Spot on. Luke is more in the Phil mold: a guy who has a finger on the pulse of the team's morale and manages egos. We really need to steal some top development trainers and x/o coaches. It seems like we just let our players develop on their own through game experience. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | I really think the Lakers need a coach with cache to coach them next year with George and James.
They need a guy who is not only smart, but also garners instant respect on name alone.
Any chance they kick the tires on Coach K again, maybe even Calipari or Tubby Smith? |
The coach with cache will be Lebron
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| If all goes well, Magic will give Luke his severance pay after tonight’s game. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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luke isn't the problem...we do need better assistants and especially a shooting coach though
even phil himself couldn't win with this trash roster
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al242
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope magic is prepping Puke Walton’s termination documents, this guy is a complete joke. He was a crap NBA player and an even worst NBA coach. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Luke was hired by the old regime. Rob and Magic have no loyalty to him.
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| 32 wrote: | | Luke was hired by the old regime. Rob and Magic have no loyalty to him. |
Music to my ears, he needs to go. Think Boston would take Lonzo for Brad Stevens? |
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| 32 wrote: | | Luke was hired by the old regime. Rob and Magic have no loyalty to him. |
Magic: "The Lakers have the perfect Coach."
Magic's high on Luke too.
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | luke isn't the problem...we do need better assistants and especially a |
The assistants are LUKE'S choices.
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