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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject:

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Jesus. He's not perfect, but ya'll act like he's blowing it with A-list talent.


No they aren't. They feel like he's making small errors that are costing the team.


Stuff like playing Frye over Wear.


Neither is A-list talent. But one obviously deserves to play over the other, and it makes no sense for one to be playing at all given the circumstances.


Wear earned his chance.

Wear played good defense.

Wear was hitting threes.

Wear has chemistry with the team and we had a good thing going.


Frye sucked in Cleveland.

Frye is coming off sickness, injury.

Frye has no chemistry with the team whatsoever.


IT doesn't take a rocket scientist to gather who SHOULD be getting the minutes. Luke chose the opposite. He deserves criticism for it.


Most people around the league would say Frye>Wear is the obvious choice. With how well Wear has been playing heís made it much less obvious but it certainly is not obvious he should be playing over Frye. Wear has been a D league player his whole career letís not go crazy over a few good games.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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Jesus. He's not perfect, but ya'll act like he's blowing it with A-list talent.


No they aren't. They feel like he's making small errors that are costing the team.


Stuff like playing Frye over Wear.


Neither is A-list talent. But one obviously deserves to play over the other, and it makes no sense for one to be playing at all given the circumstances.


Wear earned his chance.

Wear played good defense.

Wear was hitting threes.

Wear has chemistry with the team and we had a good thing going.


Frye sucked in Cleveland.

Frye is coming off sickness, injury.

Frye has no chemistry with the team whatsoever.


IT doesn't take a rocket scientist to gather who SHOULD be getting the minutes. Luke chose the opposite. He deserves criticism for it.


Read some of the posts on the last two pages. You're one of the few criticizing actual decisions he made and backing it up. Otherwise, it's just a mindless (bleep) fest of people looking to point fingers because they're mad that we're losing, as if Luke is the ONLY reason why.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject:

FYI: Wear played 31 minutes with the SB lakers in OKC Saturday night. He was probably pretty tired by Sunday. Therefore Luke went with Frye.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:33 am    Post subject:

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FYI: Wear played 31 minutes with the SB lakers in OKC Saturday night. He was probably pretty tired by Sunday. Therefore Luke went with Frye.


Context doesn't matter for some guys here
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject:

The entire team looked exhausted
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject:

they have to play Frye some, he's a free agent so they'll have to make a decision on him after the season. He doesn't look like he has anything left... but there's only a few games left and they have to take a look at him.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:15 pm    Post subject:

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they have to play Frye some, he's a free agent so they'll have to make a decision on him after the season. He doesn't look like he has anything left... but there's only a few games left and they have to take a look at him.


Some people can't be reasoned with. Especially guys like MJST who made their mind up about Luke long before he was signed.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject:

HumanVictoryCigar wrote:
they have to play Frye some, he's a free agent so they'll have to make a decision on him after the season. He doesn't look like he has anything left... but there's only a few games left and they have to take a look at him.


Do they need to play Frye to see whether or no they're bringing him back? How about not outplaying Wear and earning minutes over him? That's kind of a sign too.

That would be like saying "The Lakers need to play Deng so they can decide whether or not they want to extend him further."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
FYI: Wear played 31 minutes with the SB lakers in OKC Saturday night. He was probably pretty tired by Sunday. Therefore Luke went with Frye.


His shot was off during warm ups. That might explain why.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:39 pm    Post subject:

Luminous8 wrote:
HumanVictoryCigar wrote:
they have to play Frye some, he's a free agent so they'll have to make a decision on him after the season. He doesn't look like he has anything left... but there's only a few games left and they have to take a look at him.


Some people can't be reasoned with. Especially guys like MJST who made their mind up about Luke long before he was signed.


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pio2u wrote:
FYI: Wear played 31 minutes with the SB lakers in OKC Saturday night. He was probably pretty tired by Sunday. Therefore Luke went with Frye.


Context doesn't matter for some guys here



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:51 am    Post subject:

That diatribe didn't age well...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:56 am    Post subject:

Luke deserves a lot of credit for keeping this team competitive thatís all Iíll say.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject:

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Luke deserves a lot of credit for keeping this team competitive thatís all Iíll say.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
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Luke deserves a lot of credit for keeping this team competitive thatís all Iíll say.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject:

Games Missed

Jules - Zero
Kuz - 2
KCP - 8
BroLo - 8
Ingram - 19
Zo - 26
Hart - 19
IT - 10 of 27
Nance - 11 before the Trade
Clarkson - Zero before the Trade

103 games lost between 8 key players, 21 Different Starting Lineups, 10 new players this season, lost 2 key bench players mid season, young team...still going to get to the anticipated goal of 35 to 36 wins which is a +9 over the previous +9 and this time with the core doing the heavy lifting.

Could have started Jules earlier, but he did keep Jules dialed in all season. Could have made some better decisions here and there towards the end of close games. But given the amount of multiple injuries at the same time and how much it's affected our regular rotations...35 to 36 wins is a good stepping stone for next year which should be playoffs even if we add no one of significance and only retain Jules.

Solid B+ to A- type job with a bunch of kids.

And I count 10 games that we gave away in the 4th or OT...best this team could be is 44-34 at this point, but in reality we were some injuries and backup guard depth away from being 500...that's pretty incredible with such a young team and so much roster turnover in 1 calendar year.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject:

CervantesRises wrote:
Games Missed

Jules - Zero
Kuz - 2
KCP - 8
BroLo - 8
Ingram - 19
Zo - 26
Hart - 19
IT - 10 of 27
Nance - 11 before the Trade
Clarkson - Zero before the Trade

103 games lost between 8 key players, 21 Different Starting Lineups, 10 new players this season, lost 2 key bench players mid season, young team...still going to get to the anticipated goal of 35 to 36 wins which is a +9 over the previous +9 and this time with the core doing the heavy lifting.

Could have started Jules earlier, but he did keep Jules dialed in all season. Could have made some better decisions here and there towards the end of close games. But given the amount of multiple injuries at the same time and how much it's affected our regular rotations...35 to 36 wins is a good stepping stone for next year which should be playoffs even if we add no one of significance and only retain Jules.

Solid B+ to A- type job with a bunch of kids.

And I count 10 games that we gave away in the 4th or OT...best this team could be is 44-34 at this point, but in reality we were some injuries and backup guard depth away from being 500...that's pretty incredible with such a young team and so much roster turnover in 1 calendar year.

This. This is one of the rare, measured posts you'll find in this thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
Games Missed

Jules - Zero
Kuz - 2
KCP - 8
BroLo - 8
Ingram - 19
Zo - 26
Hart - 19
IT - 10 of 27
Nance - 11 before the Trade
Clarkson - Zero before the Trade

103 games lost between 8 key players, 21 Different Starting Lineups, 10 new players this season, lost 2 key bench players mid season, young team...still going to get to the anticipated goal of 35 to 36 wins which is a +9 over the previous +9 and this time with the core doing the heavy lifting.

Could have started Jules earlier, but he did keep Jules dialed in all season. Could have made some better decisions here and there towards the end of close games. But given the amount of multiple injuries at the same time and how much it's affected our regular rotations...35 to 36 wins is a good stepping stone for next year which should be playoffs even if we add no one of significance and only retain Jules.

Solid B+ to A- type job with a bunch of kids.

And I count 10 games that we gave away in the 4th or OT...best this team could be is 44-34 at this point, but in reality we were some injuries and backup guard depth away from being 500...that's pretty incredible with such a young team and so much roster turnover in 1 calendar year.

This. This is one of the rare, measured posts you'll find in this thread.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject:

Frye with 19 pts off the bench. Hmm maybe Luke knows some things.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject:

Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Frye with 19 pts off the bench. Hmm maybe Luke knows some things.


bb-b-b-but Travis Wear
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:11 am    Post subject:

Amazing how only a mere 100 days ago most here were desperately refreshing their twitter feeds for the new of Lukes firing to break
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject:

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Amazing how only a mere 100 days ago most here were desperately refreshing their twitter feeds for the new of Lukes firing to break


Just a week ago people were losing it because Wear wasnít getting enough PT
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject:

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Amazing how only a mere 100 days ago most here were desperately refreshing their twitter feeds for the new of Lukes firing to break


Not really, that is pretty common here.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:07 am    Post subject:

I want another +9 win season again next year and Iíll be happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
Amazing how only a mere 100 days ago most here were desperately refreshing their twitter feeds for the new of Lukes firing to break


A lot of people are reactionary and want to make sure everyone knows they know better than the coach.

Luke's an easy target -- he makes a questionable decision lineup wise in someone's opinion, and it gets extrapolated and lots of assumptions are made.

People should be questioning his decisions. That can create interesting/thoughtful discussion. It's just annoying how self-righteous people are about it, though, and how unwilling some are to examine the possibility that Luke is doing things with forethought and reasoning.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:15 pm    Post subject:

BizLA wrote:
Luke deserves a lot of credit for keeping this team competitive thatís all Iíll say.


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