Official LUKE WALTON Head Coach Thread
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 551, 552, 553  Next

 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
pokoy
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 12 Apr 2001
Posts: 14031

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:52 am    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
The minutes distribution won't be as difficult as the national media thinks. We are basically playing without a true center, so that opens up some minutes for Luke to experiment. I'll be surprised if Javale plays more than 15mpg, so we'll be playing small for about 30mpg. Plus Luke likes to rotate out 5 guys at a time. I'm not worried about how Luke will distribute the minutes.


Reason why I'm worried about how Luke will be distributing minutes is because it took him a good third or so of the season to figure out that playing Julius Randle more was actually a good thing. Whatever rut or sulking episodes he had - while it may not have been the consumate Larry Nance type professional type of reaction coaches want - it was completely understandable because he competed hard for maybe 10 mins a game, made an impact, then would get buried on the bench for the rest of the game. There was a lot of head scratching on our part here, to the point that I remember there were conspiracy theories on maybe the front office mandating Luke not play him a certain amount of minutes or start him because it might make his contract harder to manage at season's end. It was just weird.

Anyway, maybe the front office can get in front of this potential drama by just saying Luke will be the head coach regardless (even if it's not true).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
Judah
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 3338

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject:

I can't see Luke getting the brunt of the blame if things don't go well. The entire league has been baffled by these signings all summer and it's been reported from the beginning that this was all Magic's plan. And Magic has done interviews gladly taking credit for it and explaining what that plan is. What I would expect from the media if things go awry is to hold the FO accountable for putting this team together and expecting it to work.
_________________
”It is about the greatness of God, not the significance of man. God made man small and the universe big to say something about Himself.”

- John Piper
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
JerryMagicKobe
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 28 Jul 2005
Posts: 14172

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject:

I think the arrival of Lebron, the addition of the rest of the veterans and the natural progression of the youngsters will make Luke look pretty good this season.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
defense
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Jan 2010
Posts: 27941

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:41 pm    Post subject:

This past season I really saw some coaching improvements and potential in Luke. He has his issues, but who doesn't?

PS Steven A Smith is a douche cake
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
kikanga
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Posts: 17193
Location: La La Land

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:14 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
I can't see Luke getting the brunt of the blame if things don't go well. The entire league has been baffled by these signings all summer and it's been reported from the beginning that this was all Magic's plan. And Magic has done interviews gladly taking credit for it and explaining what that plan is. What I would expect from the media if things go awry is to hold the FO accountable for putting this team together and expecting it to work.


Both (coach and front office) would be blamed. If you don't believe me. Ask Mike Brown, MDA, and Byron Scott. None of them made it to a year 3.
_________________
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
TheBlackMamba
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6463

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject:

I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
laker50
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 07 Mar 2014
Posts: 1287

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject:

There is already an article that says that Luke Walton is on the hot seat.
And he may be.
For expectations has changed. He has gone from a baby sitter to a real coach expected to get into the playoffs and maybe even win a championship.
The training wheels are off.

We we start with everyone on his side hoping he makes the transition.
It will not be an easy one.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Judah
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 3338

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject:

laker50 wrote:
There is already an article that says that Luke Walton is on the hot seat.
And he may be.
For expectations has changed. He has gone from a baby sitter to a real coach expected to get into the playoffs and maybe even win a championship.
The training wheels are off.

We we start with everyone on his side hoping he makes the transition.
It will not be an easy one.

Well, if an article says it, it must be true.
_________________
”It is about the greatness of God, not the significance of man. God made man small and the universe big to say something about Himself.”

- John Piper
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
SpunkieLakerCat
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 1680

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.


I happen to agree with you.
_________________
"You cannot live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you"

Coach Wooden
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
deal
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 17 Aug 2008
Posts: 10867
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject:

LOL, yeah we now need to play half court offense? Hell NO...
_________________
The move
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
1ngr4m
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 22 Dec 2011
Posts: 5002

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject:

I'll admit it, I have an irrational bias for Luke 'daddy' Walton.

First of all, he was one of those historic role players we've had over the years, I mean everyone remembers those "this guy is making 5 million dollars a month" memes from 2009ish right.

Secondly, he's the definition of an alpha male with his deep ass voice and ability to be loved by everyone. Shaq didn't do any rookie hazing on Luke because of how cool he was. Who else gets that kind of treatment?

Third, he's young and an elite coaching prospect. I mean I personally saw so much improvement from year one to year two. He's open to adapting and learning new things. What he did with last years roster was impressive IMO.
_________________
Did Jordan Clarkson think Metta's 3 at the end was going in? "I don't know. He was shaking like a stripper in the corner."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Aeneas Hunter
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 20614

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.


Luke and his staff got the team to play defense. They got the team to play pretty well during the middle of the season when the schedule was favorable. The young players got better over the course of the season. I had no complaints about Luke, but now he gets the challenge of managing Lebron and the changes that he will bring. I think Luke is up to the challenge.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
pio2u
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 26 Dec 2012
Posts: 31786

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:51 am    Post subject:

Breaking Down L.A.'s New Roster
Coach Mermuys Explains how LeBron and the Vets Impact the Young Core

https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/180806-breaking-down-new-roster
_________________
www.trendydeckpost.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
venturalakersfan
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 14 Apr 2001
Posts: 127501
Location: The Gold Coast

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
laker50 wrote:
There is already an article that says that Luke Walton is on the hot seat.
And he may be.
For expectations has changed. He has gone from a baby sitter to a real coach expected to get into the playoffs and maybe even win a championship.
The training wheels are off.

We we start with everyone on his side hoping he makes the transition.
It will not be an easy one.

Well, if an article says it, it must be true.


It is hard to believe that a FO whose plan is to add a FA in 2019 and then compete would put their coach on the hot seat minus the hopeful final piece. I think that Luke would have to really screw up not to make it through the season.
_________________
It’s a girl, my lord, in a flat bed Ford.......
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
deal
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 17 Aug 2008
Posts: 10867
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
laker50 wrote:
There is already an article that says that Luke Walton is on the hot seat.
And he may be.
For expectations has changed. He has gone from a baby sitter to a real coach expected to get into the playoffs and maybe even win a championship.
The training wheels are off.

We we start with everyone on his side hoping he makes the transition.
It will not be an easy one.

Well, if an article says it, it must be true.



Correct Judah, LOL. We need a real coach like one that has coached
the GSW !!! Luke did that? Well, someone older like Phil, so he can
slow down LeBron ! What? We want to play fast paced like Luke does?

Hum, maybe we keep Luke...

Seriously, the position is Luke's, but there are always a group of
fans and writer eager for someone to screwup. Those back seat drivers
always think they know best...

I'm wishing Luke well with this new challenge, the coaching flip flop
is just old.
_________________
The move
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
kikanga
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Posts: 17193
Location: La La Land

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject:

I think the most important coaching question is: who do you want out there directing traffic for the minutes Lebron sits?
Maybe ... Rondo? He's arguably the smartest player on the team. Maybe stagger his and LBJ's minutes, have a smart point on the floor at all times. Like HOU does.
Or maybe the young guys take a leap and can carry us stretches when Lebron rests? Luke has his work cut out for him.
You can play the "hot hand" game-to-game technique for only so long. The later it gets in the season, the more this roster will need clearly identified roles.
_________________
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
LakerLanny
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Oct 2001
Posts: 41096

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully someone will replace Screamin A Smith instead of Luke.

He needs a second act of some type at least. Or a long hiatus from the airwaves.
_________________
Love, Laker Lanny
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
PartyMan
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 29 Jan 2016
Posts: 331
Location: The Dark Side of the Moon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
I think the most important coaching question is: who do you want out there directing traffic for the minutes Lebron sits?
Maybe ... Rondo? He's arguably the smartest player on the team. Maybe stagger his and LBJ's minutes, have a smart point on the floor at all times. Like HOU does.
Or maybe the young guys take a leap and can carry us stretches when Lebron rests? Luke has his work cut out for him.
You can play the "hot hand" game-to-game technique for only so long. The later it gets in the season, the more this roster will need clearly identified roles.


This is a good point. It would be smart to always have one of LBJ and Rondo out there as "coaches" on the floor. And assuming Lonzo starts, so Rondo can lead the bench mob, and assuming LeBron plays ~36 min, that probably will be the case.
_________________
We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
LandsbergerRules
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 7390
Location: The Other Perspective

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:40 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.


I agree. Winning 35 games in the West with Zo and BI out for long stretches of the season is no joke.
_________________
"Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
2019
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 03 Dec 2014
Posts: 5713

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
TheBlackMamba wrote:
I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.


I agree. Winning 35 games in the West with Zo and BI out for long stretches of the season is no joke.



Team full of new key pieces (Lopez, KCP, Zo, Kuz, Hart)
One year contracts everywhere
Shadow of 2018 FA money
Lonzo missed 33 games
BI missed 20+
KCP spent his nights in jail (for a min)
Hart missed games
Made a major trade for 2 key players
Lost IT for the final games
God awful depth
Had an 0-9 stretch
Closed the season winning only 4/15 (4 of those losses were by 3 or less)

All in all, Luke did fantastic. His biggest mistake, if it was his call, was not starting Randle. He had some shaky moments in terms of play calling but it was substantially improved from year 1 as were his rotations. Year 1 he established a culture. Year 2 he established an identity and gained wins in the process. With the injuries, trades, FA rumors, and trade... again, he did well.

Some better luck and we probably win 41-45.

Luke is only on the hot seat if we don't make the playoffs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Lakers_Jester
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Posts: 5104

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:44 pm    Post subject:

Wonder what offense we will primarily see. Positionless everyone can ball handle shoot drive defend etc or lebron orchestrator?
_________________
"Infinity Gauntlet Line Up"

Lonzo
Kcp
Hart
Ingram
Bron
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
PengShow
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 01 Jul 2018
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject:

Lakers_Jester wrote:
Wonder what offense we will primarily see. Positionless everyone can ball handle shoot drive defend etc or lebron orchestrator?


I think we'll run teams out of the building, it'll most likely be LeBron finishing plays rather than starting them.

He will probably be the focal point in the half-court though.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
pio2u
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 26 Dec 2012
Posts: 31786

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject:

NO DOUBT:
Luke and the Lakers are going to be exciting, entertaining and very good!!

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a0e39722-de1d-4007-b1f2-e3e4b3e220df
_________________
www.trendydeckpost.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
Four Decade Bandwagon
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 18 Jul 2014
Posts: 3985

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
I think the most important coaching question is: who do you want out there directing traffic for the minutes Lebron sits?
Maybe ... Rondo? He's arguably the smartest player on the team. Maybe stagger his and LBJ's minutes, have a smart point on the floor at all times. Like HOU does.
Or maybe the young guys take a leap and can carry us stretches when Lebron rests? Luke has his work cut out for him.
You can play the "hot hand" game-to-game technique for only so long. The later it gets in the season, the more this roster will need clearly identified roles.


Being productive during the times James is on the bench will be a key for the season. That is what killed the Cavs. Losing leads when he went to the bench. My preference would be if they could "keep" James at or under 30mpg on most nights. Either by keeping or extending leads.

I actually think the Lakers have enough playmakers to make it feasible.

Second unit could easily be Rondo, Hart, Stephenson or Beasley, Kuzma and Zubac or Wagner. Perhaps even extending Ingram's mpg to overlap into the rotation too. Potentially solid defense and multiple scoring threats going against other teams second units.

Most nights I like the matchups and potential. Lakers have the depth to play the hot hand when possible but not rely on it every night.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ringfinger
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 08 Oct 2013
Posts: 21398

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
I think it may be an unpopular opinion around here, but what Luke did last year with a roster of parts that didn't fit, a major logjam at PF, a 19-year old rookie at PG with no depth behind him, and an incredibly young rotation overall was worthy of top 10 NBA coach status. At the very least, he's in the upper half of the league.


Yeah I don’t know about top 10. Luke was real shaky to start the season. Finished it off in good form though.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 551, 552, 553  Next
Page 552 of 553
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2010 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB