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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:31 pm    Post subject:

Jarmusch wrote:
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Lebron continues to save his ass.


yeah, and how many seasons all timers like phil and pop coached without a superstar and a buddy all star player on their team? must be like 3 seasons combined in 30+ years of nba coaching. Players play and win stuff in the nba, coaches dont matter all that much without adequate talent.

And luke doesnt even have an all star to pair with lebron.

I mean, i understand the criticism and all but its soooo easy to scapegoat coaches, they're kinda isolated and in a weaker position than either gm and important players, and are usually judged by "what have you done for me lately?". Even Brad Stevens got questioned after great runs in boston with subpar rosters, when you win you're good, when you lose you suck, thats how coaches get judged in the nba in general and its unreasonable


There is an art to coaching an all-time great. Lebron has run coaches out of town, same for Kobe and MJ.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject:

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So does Luke go KCP here or Hart?

I hope it’s Hart. KCP can create his own shot with the second unit.


Yea, I have no idea who I want him to start.
I wonder. Hmm.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject:

was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Lebron continues to save his ass.

Great One wrote:
was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.



Another game that showed the Lakers team (thanks to Lebron) won in spite of coach Luke.


Also, as the poster above said, yes, players win games, BUT coaches and coaching staffs serve important functions. If it was that easy (only players count), the Green Bay Packers would have won more games this season. Heck, even the Fisher Rams had talent, but did not win very many games...….right?

So lets not say that coaches and coaching staffs are not important.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:40 pm    Post subject:

HermosaJoe wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Lebron continues to save his ass.

Great One wrote:
was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.



Another game that showed the Lakers team (thanks to Lebron) won in spite of coach Luke.


Also, as the poster above said, yes, players win games, BUT coaches and coaching staffs serve important functions. If it was that easy (only players count), the Green Bay Packers would have won more games this season. Heck, even the Fisher Rams had talent, but did not win very many games...….right?

So lets not say that coaches and coaching staffs are not important.


Or to make a basketball comparison, the Bucks after Kidd was let go.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject:

Can Luke coach the triangle?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
HermosaJoe wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Lebron continues to save his ass.

Great One wrote:
was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.



Another game that showed the Lakers team (thanks to Lebron) won in spite of coach Luke.


Also, as the poster above said, yes, players win games, BUT coaches and coaching staffs serve important functions. If it was that easy (only players count), the Green Bay Packers would have won more games this season. Heck, even the Fisher Rams had talent, but did not win very many games...….right?

So lets not say that coaches and coaching staffs are not important.


Or to make a basketball comparison, the Bucks after Kidd was let go.


Warriors under Kerr vs Mark Jackson
Lakers under Phil vs Del Harris

I don't know if Luke is a championship coach. He's been at the helm 3 years he still doesn't have an offense I get the feeling hes a place holder coach until this team can contend.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:44 pm    Post subject:

socalsp3 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
HermosaJoe wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Lebron continues to save his ass.

Great One wrote:
was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.



Another game that showed the Lakers team (thanks to Lebron) won in spite of coach Luke.


Also, as the poster above said, yes, players win games, BUT coaches and coaching staffs serve important functions. If it was that easy (only players count), the Green Bay Packers would have won more games this season. Heck, even the Fisher Rams had talent, but did not win very many games...….right?

So lets not say that coaches and coaching staffs are not important.


Or to make a basketball comparison, the Bucks after Kidd was let go.


Warriors under Kerr vs Mark Jackson
Lakers under Phil vs Del Harris

I don't know if Luke is a championship coach. He's been at the helm 3 years he still doesn't have an offense I get the feeling hes a place holder coach until this team can contend.


The hope is Rick Carlise next year.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:57 pm    Post subject:

HermosaJoe wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Lebron continues to save his ass.

Great One wrote:
was being out coached yet again. Pop almost got the best of him for the 3rd straight game if it wasnt for lebron.

He best pray bron doesnt go down with an injury anytime soon.



Another game that showed the Lakers team (thanks to Lebron) won in spite of coach Luke.


Also, as the poster above said, yes, players win games, BUT coaches and coaching staffs serve important functions. If it was that easy (only players count), the Green Bay Packers would have won more games this season. Heck, even the Fisher Rams had talent, but did not win very many games...….right?

So lets not say that coaches and coaching staffs are not important.


Exactly correct!

There's plenty of basketball examples too of highly talented teams being held back by there inept HC:

Del Harris Lakers
Jason Kidd Bucks
Mark Jackson Warriors
Doug Collins Bulls
Stan Van Gundy's Heat
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:06 pm    Post subject:

not to laugh at the experts here but...

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Gregg Popovich asked about Luke Walton: “(The Lakers) execute way better now than they did at the beginning of the year … it shows great leadership on his end … they should be really happy with (what’s going on there).”

4:01 PM - 7 Dec 2018

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:11 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
not to laugh at the experts here but...

Mike Trudell
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Gregg Popovich asked about Luke Walton: “(The Lakers) execute way better now than they did at the beginning of the year … it shows great leadership on his end … they should be really happy with (what’s going on there).”

4:01 PM - 7 Dec 2018

y knot


Pop hates the Lakers so I don’t know what to think about his comment. Haha.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:12 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
not to laugh at the experts here but...

Mike Trudell
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Gregg Popovich asked about Luke Walton: “(The Lakers) execute way better now than they did at the beginning of the year … it shows great leadership on his end … they should be really happy with (what’s going on there).”

4:01 PM - 7 Dec 2018

y knot


Just to play devils advocate, that coincides Lebron ball.

Not saying Luke hasn’t made adjustments, but we need to see a little more; especially in the half court offense. Right now it seems like it’s just Lebron ball, imo.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject:

Hart is starting today.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject:

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He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.


Yea. Should have played guys 24 straight mins at that speed
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject:

Omg. Please no Kuz at center lineup!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.


Yea. Should have played guys 24 straight mins at that speed


You're one of those Luke apologists I see seeing how you're just putting words in my mouth.

It's called choosing a better lineup to start the 4th, I didn't say play the same lineup.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:50 pm    Post subject:

*Poeltl killing us*

Luke: “let’s put our small ball lineup in maybe that’ll do”

🙄🙄🙄

Loss isn’t 100% on Luke but sure didn’t help our cause
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject:

This dude calls the worst timeouts. Twice in this game he decided to ice his own team.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject:

What moron was guarding bertans?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
epak wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.


Yea. Should have played guys 24 straight mins at that speed


You're one of those Luke apologists I see seeing how you're just putting words in my mouth.

It's called choosing a better lineup to start the 4th, I didn't say play the same lineup.


Which would you have gone with?
My gripe is going with a center that's not McGee or Chandler.
You?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject:

Lost 10+ leads multiple times. Didn't call a time out when Bertans got hot. Happens with Luke so often.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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This dude calls the worst timeouts. Twice in this game he decided to ice his own team.


Dat timeout in the 2nd quarter with less than 4 min left was brutal. Iced the team and got them the momentum going into the 2nd half.

Starts and leaves Lebron in the entire 4th.

Leaves in Chandler to guard the bench instead of McGee (Chandler is clearly good against LMA but not faster shooting bigs)

And dat freaking small ball in the 4th.

Not totally his fault this time but he sure as hell didn’t help as usual.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:10 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
epak wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.


Yea. Should have played guys 24 straight mins at that speed


You're one of those Luke apologists I see seeing how you're just putting words in my mouth.

It's called choosing a better lineup to start the 4th, I didn't say play the same lineup.


Which would you have gone with?
My gripe is going with a center that's not McGee or Chandler.
You?


My issue was Bease, Svi and KCP together to start the 4th.

3 guys that can't dribble with bad shooting. I would have rather seen Lance.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject:

CantStopJM wrote:
epak wrote:
CantStopJM wrote:
He's basically trying to lose the game with the 4th quarter lineup he started with.


Yea. Should have played guys 24 straight mins at that speed


You're one of those Luke apologists I see seeing how you're just putting words in my mouth.

It's called choosing a better lineup to start the 4th, I didn't say play the same lineup.




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