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CantStopJM
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"I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| They are still way too dependent on Lebron. He has to find a way to prevent the team from turning into another iteration of the Cavs. One possible solution might be moving BI to the second unit when he returns. That way they have some sustained scoring when Lebron is on the bench, since Kuz fits better in the 1st unit. Things should be easier when Rondo returns as well. |
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| Besides the 2nd quarter, Lakers kept Miami under 25 each of the other quarters. Hopefully we can stop with the 35+ quarters and play defense for all 4. |
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tox
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | They are still way too dependent on Lebron. He has to find a way to prevent the team from turning into another iteration of the Cavs. One possible solution might be moving BI to the second unit when he returns. That way they have some sustained scoring when Lebron is on the bench, since Kuz fits better in the 1st unit. Things should be easier when Rondo returns as well. |
Yeah, I'd say offensively we're really missing Rondo's playmaking. Aside from LeBron he's the only one who consistently can create for someone. Kuz has shown some chops recently but mostly as a secondary playmaker (at least IMO). BI is meh. Lance is super hot and cold. No one else can do much of anything. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | "I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
He even pulled Zo early iirc so its not like mins were an issue |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | "I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
He even pulled Zo early iirc so its not like mins were an issue |
Extremely mind-boggling to say the least. There was no reason to have LeBron, Kuz and Zo on the bench at the same time. Using that awful 2nd unit again to start the 4th after it played so poorly in the 1st half was infuriating. Even when Luke brought LeBron and Kuz back in the 4th, he still chose to leave Lance in the game instead of going with either Zo or KCP. What exactly was Lance providing on either side of the ball at that point in the game? Winslow's last 3 of the game came as a result of Lance blowing his defensive assignment, which left Kuz having to cover to Heat players. I like Luke a lot, but these kind of mistakes with his rotations are inexcusable. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| RCS926 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | "I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
He even pulled Zo early iirc so its not like mins were an issue |
Extremely mind-boggling to say the least. There was no reason to have LeBron, Kuz and Zo on the bench at the same time. Using that awful 2nd unit again to start the 4th after it played so poorly in the 1st half was infuriating. Even when Luke brought LeBron and Kuz back in the 4th, he still chose to leave Lance in the game instead of going with either Zo or KCP. What exactly was Lance providing on either side of the ball at that point in the game? Winslow's last 3 of the game came as a result of Lance blowing his defensive assignment, which left Kuz having to cover to Heat players. I like Luke a lot, but these kind of mistakes with his rotations are inexcusable. |
I was wondering the SAME thing like, what is Lance doing in there with the starters?
Honestly, and I have said this since Luke got here, but I honestly think he has mental lapses. Like maybe he still kind of views the game from the perspective of a player sometimes or something. Because he does things that appear to be tied to forgetting.
Forgetting a particular player was red hot, forgetting to sub the right players in and out, etc. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | RCS926 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | "I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
He even pulled Zo early iirc so its not like mins were an issue |
Extremely mind-boggling to say the least. There was no reason to have LeBron, Kuz and Zo on the bench at the same time. Using that awful 2nd unit again to start the 4th after it played so poorly in the 1st half was infuriating. Even when Luke brought LeBron and Kuz back in the 4th, he still chose to leave Lance in the game instead of going with either Zo or KCP. What exactly was Lance providing on either side of the ball at that point in the game? Winslow's last 3 of the game came as a result of Lance blowing his defensive assignment, which left Kuz having to cover to Heat players. I like Luke a lot, but these kind of mistakes with his rotations are inexcusable. |
I was wondering the SAME thing like, what is Lance doing in there with the starters?
Honestly, and I have said this since Luke got here, but I honestly think he has mental lapses. Like maybe he still kind of views the game from the perspective of a player sometimes or something. Because he does things that appear to be tied to forgetting.
Forgetting a particular player was red hot, forgetting to sub the right players in and out, etc. |
Yeah, I'm not sure what Lance did to earn those 4th quarter minutes. With LeBron and Kuz back in the game, the Lakers needed perimeter defense and spacing, which KCP or Zo were far more capable of providing. |
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Did anyone catch KCP clearly talking back to Luke on his way back to the huddle in the 1st Q?
It was right after KCP blew a defensive assignment...one of many he blew last night. If he's going to be insubordinate like that then he's got to go on general principle.
I was surprised Luke let that go and left KCP in the game.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| CervantesRises wrote: | Did anyone catch KCP clearly talking back to Luke on his way back to the huddle in the 1st Q?
It was right after KCP blew a defensive assignment...one of many he blew last night. If he's going to be insubordinate like that then he's got to go on general principle.
I was surprised Luke let that go and left KCP in the game. |
Yup. He was like “yeah yeah yeah” and waved him off and just walked past him. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | Did anyone catch KCP clearly talking back to Luke on his way back to the huddle in the 1st Q?
It was right after KCP blew a defensive assignment...one of many he blew last night. If he's going to be insubordinate like that then he's got to go on general principle.
I was surprised Luke let that go and left KCP in the game. |
Yup. He was like “yeah yeah yeah” and waved him off and just walked past him. |
yup I noticed that as well. It's obv that KCP is frustrated by no longer being the shoe in starter and now not even closing games.
oh well.. trade him for Ariza and let's keep it moving. |
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| 2019 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | Did anyone catch KCP clearly talking back to Luke on his way back to the huddle in the 1st Q?
It was right after KCP blew a defensive assignment...one of many he blew last night. If he's going to be insubordinate like that then he's got to go on general principle.
I was surprised Luke let that go and left KCP in the game. |
Yup. He was like “yeah yeah yeah” and waved him off and just walked past him. |
yup I noticed that as well. It's obv that KCP is frustrated by no longer being the shoe in starter and now not even closing games.
oh well.. trade him for Ariza and let's keep it moving. |
He must be as good as out of here to do something like that and not get checked by one of his teammates...and for Luke to leave him in.
I didn't think there was much to the rumors until I saw that last night...first time I've seen a player dis Luke in front of everyone.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | RCS926 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | "I want to have Lebron or Zo on the floor at all times"
Start of the 4th quarter: Neither player is on the floor
What kinda BS lineup is Lance, Hart, Tyson, Svi and KCP. |
He even pulled Zo early iirc so its not like mins were an issue |
Extremely mind-boggling to say the least. There was no reason to have LeBron, Kuz and Zo on the bench at the same time. Using that awful 2nd unit again to start the 4th after it played so poorly in the 1st half was infuriating. Even when Luke brought LeBron and Kuz back in the 4th, he still chose to leave Lance in the game instead of going with either Zo or KCP. What exactly was Lance providing on either side of the ball at that point in the game? Winslow's last 3 of the game came as a result of Lance blowing his defensive assignment, which left Kuz having to cover to Heat players. I like Luke a lot, but these kind of mistakes with his rotations are inexcusable. |
I was wondering the SAME thing like, what is Lance doing in there with the starters?
Honestly, and I have said this since Luke got here, but I honestly think he has mental lapses. Like maybe he still kind of views the game from the perspective of a player sometimes or something. Because he does things that appear to be tied to forgetting.
Forgetting a particular player was red hot, forgetting to sub the right players in and out, etc. |
Because Lance is another ball handler who is better at finishing at the rim than Ball? It might not be the right rotation but at least I can see some logics behind it so I am ok with that. |
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Are we firing Luke or what? /s
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| PhiberOptik wrote: | | Are we firing Luke or what? /s |
Maybe when the Lakers get the #1 seed |
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| epak wrote: | | PhiberOptik wrote: | | Are we firing Luke or what? /s |
Maybe when the Lakers get the #1 seed |
Didnt stop Lebron from firing Blatt  |
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| socalsp3 wrote: | | epak wrote: | | PhiberOptik wrote: | | Are we firing Luke or what? /s |
Maybe when the Lakers get the #1 seed |
Didnt stop Lebron from firing Blatt |
Those blatt stories were crazy.
He was not ready for the NBA.
One mistake Luke doesn't make that blatt did is that Luke knows to give the ball to LeBron on last second shots. |
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| Luke will stay as coach but damn they need to upgrade his assistant staff even with 1 addition to help his rotations and half court offense. |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | Luke will stay as coach but damn they need to upgrade his assistant staff even with 1 addition to help his rotations and half court offense. |
Gentry?
Unfortunately I don't see them adding an assistant mid season. |
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| epak wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | Luke will stay as coach but damn they need to upgrade his assistant staff even with 1 addition to help his rotations and half court offense. |
Gentry?
Unfortunately I don't see them adding an assistant mid season. |
That would be a pipe dream addition if he gets fired soon. |
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We are 1.5 games out of first place with LeBron playing the lowest minutes of his career, with two core guys out for half the season so far, and with a supporting cast who are all barely legal to drink....
and there are people (not necessarily here) who want Luke fired? SMH. If our record stays consistent throughout the rest of the season, he should win COY. |
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| KBandKB wrote: | We are 1.5 games out of first place with LeBron playing the lowest minutes of his career, with two core guys out for half the season so far, and with a supporting cast who are all barely legal to drink....
and there are people (not necessarily here) who want Luke fired? SMH. If our record stays consistent throughout the rest of the season, he should win COY. |
I think it comes down between him and nurse. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | KBandKB wrote: | We are 1.5 games out of first place with LeBron playing the lowest minutes of his career, with two core guys out for half the season so far, and with a supporting cast who are all barely legal to drink....
and there are people (not necessarily here) who want Luke fired? SMH. If our record stays consistent throughout the rest of the season, he should win COY. |
I think it comes down between him and nurse. |
People and the media expected the Raptors to do well this season. ESPN thought we wouldn't even make the playoffs. If we end up with home court advantage, Luke should definitely win it. |
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