Luke is showing his limitations as a coach with these starting lineups. Hopefully he learns from this to get better
and what exactly are those limitations?
No mythical healing powers. A real coach would have a healthy roster
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Luke. You give MWP minutes but you can't find minutes for Zubac with 4 players out?
You might have a point if Robinson hadn't changed the complexion of the game lol. He was one of the catalysts for that big comeback. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:10 pm Post subject:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
Psythe wrote:
LilJay24 wrote:
Psythe wrote:
Luke is showing his limitations as a coach with these starting lineups. Hopefully he learns from this to get better
and what exactly are those limitations?
The issues that are already being discussed. Just a few posts above.
Lol a few mistakes aren't permanent limitations
Nevertheless they are mistakes which some people are sensitive to when you point it out. He's not the first or the last coach to get criticized, even Phil Jackson didn't make everybody happy. It's not inconceivable that a rookie coach does indeed make mistakes, but I do like him, and I'm sure he'll make adjustments eventually. I'm impatient and like adjustment/changes quickly. But that's why I'm not the coach, just a fan wearing my emotions on my sleeves.
I'm not surprised we are losing lately. But, why are we getting blown out? We don't have any competitive spirit. Do the coaches have a role in this?
We have 4 rotation players out with injuries. Just catching up with the team now.
We had 3 tonight, I believe. Tarik, Dlo, Young. Calderon is not a regular.
I still don't understand why we are getting blown out. Our margin of losses are staggering going back to Thanksgiving. Feels like Byron all over again. No fight or competitive spirit.
I'm not surprised we are losing lately. But, why are we getting blown out? We don't have any competitive spirit. Do the coaches have a role in this?
We have 4 rotation players out with injuries. Just catching up with the team now.
We had 3 tonight, I believe. Tarik, Dlo, Young. Calderon is not a regular.
I still don't understand why we are getting blown out. Our margin of losses are staggering going back to Thanksgiving. Feels like Byron all over again. No fight or competitive spirit.
The team doesn't have a real PG without Russell (Calderon is more of a SG now), and sadly the whole structure breaks down with him out. That's because the Lakers aren't very talented, and they need to be near full strength just to have a shot against WC playoff teams like Houston and Utah.
I'm not surprised we are losing lately. But, why are we getting blown out? We don't have any competitive spirit. Do the coaches have a role in this?
We have 4 rotation players out with injuries. Just catching up with the team now.
We had 3 tonight, I believe. Tarik, Dlo, Young. Calderon is not a regular.
I still don't understand why we are getting blown out. Our margin of losses are staggering going back to Thanksgiving. Feels like Byron all over again. No fight or competitive spirit.
Because they continued to rely on their offense to beat opponents until Russell and Young went down. The same defensive have plagued them all season. Other than the Bulls game, they haven't shown any sign of progress defensively. Maybe it's two steps back, one step forward at this point.
I'm not surprised we are losing lately. But, why are we getting blown out? We don't have any competitive spirit. Do the coaches have a role in this?
We have 4 rotation players out with injuries. Just catching up with the team now.
We had 3 tonight, I believe. Tarik, Dlo, Young. Calderon is not a regular.
I still don't understand why we are getting blown out. Our margin of losses are staggering going back to Thanksgiving. Feels like Byron all over again. No fight or competitive spirit.
This is a 17 win team. Missing it's starting backcourt. The margin of error for us is extremely small and with 3 huge contributors out it absolutely kills us.
How would Houston look with Harden, Beverly and Brewer out??
Ease off the panic and let this team figure it out and get healthy. _________________ You mystified at what exists inside
I'm not surprised we are losing lately. But, why are we getting blown out? We don't have any competitive spirit. Do the coaches have a role in this?
We have 4 rotation players out with injuries. Just catching up with the team now.
We had 3 tonight, I believe. Tarik, Dlo, Young. Calderon is not a regular.
I still don't understand why we are getting blown out. Our margin of losses are staggering going back to Thanksgiving. Feels like Byron all over again. No fight or competitive spirit.
This is a 17 win team. Missing it's starting backcourt. The margin of error for us is extremely small and with 3 huge contributors out it absolutely kills us.
How would Houston look with Harden, Beverly and Brewer out??
Ease off the panic and let this team figure it out and get healthy.
I'm not panicking, just disappointed that the team doesn't get back on defense, doesn't communicate etc., all things mentioned by Luke in his post game. I just wonder if his laid back style is rearing its ugly head, where players are just coasting as a result.
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:30 pm Post subject:
zePokar wrote:
His postgame conference.
I like what he's saying. Injuries aren't an excuse to not play hard and not do the little things.
The first half we got hardly any 50/50 balls, that improved some in the second half. A perfect example of what you posted was in the 4th, it was getting late in the shot clock and JC had the ball at the top of the circle. He called for a screen from Robinson and he took a couple of steps then looked at JC and his body language said "nah, I'm good". JC ended up firing a bomb that wasn't close. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Warriors fans told us about Luke rotations and they were right. He's really bad with his rotations. Very stubborn and won't change them. We had no chance with Huertas starting. He also needs to start holding players accountable for not playing defense. You can't be nice all time when Randle is taking plays off defensively like he did this game he should have been benched.
The small ball crap has to go. Randle is pathetic defensively
Russell/Ingram/Randle/Nance/Zubac
in the future we must go big not small
Depends on the match-ups. Small-ball only works when the C is invested in giving effort on the defensive end. Randle gives effort at times, but the length to alter shots is lacking (hence the t-rex arms thing). Putting him on someone like Gobert is asking him to get demolished, and he did. The TRob/Randle at center experiment isn't working right now... they are giving up the most amount of points in the paint this season (see defensive rankings thread).
I don't know if it was Morey's intervention, but Mike D'Antoni, the proverbial father of small ball, isn't going small ball crazy this season. Nene and Capela might be traditional bigs, but they are holding down the fort at the C position. Rockets have improved defensively as a result and they outrebounded the Lakers 52-39 last night.
Nene would be pretty serviceable right now. He's old, but he rotates and does his job on the defensive end. His size is also pretty valuable to them.
The small ball crap has to go. Randle is pathetic defensively
Because he cant guard opposing centers? Cmon man
Randle shouldn't be having to guard centers that's why we have Mozgov.
I somewhat agree with the small ball thing as I would like to see Luke play Mozgov a little more especially when we are facing bigger opponets such as Gobert and Capella. I don't think its fair to constantly force randle into the position of having to guard bigger players, when his strength is guarding more perimeter oriented players IMO.
The small ball crap has to go. Randle is pathetic defensively
Looked fine when Randle gave a damn about playing defense.
Incidentally, I wonder if KIROE's theory is right. Maybe Randle's just tired (as opposed to the beginning of the season when he had fresh legs) and that's why he's slacking on defense. Maybe...
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject:
tox wrote:
Jim99187 wrote:
The small ball crap has to go. Randle is pathetic defensively
Looked fine when Randle gave a damn about playing defense.
Incidentally, I wonder if KIROE's theory is right. Maybe Randle's just tired (as opposed to the beginning of the season when he had fresh legs) and that's why he's slacking on defense. Maybe...
Maybe suffering from a hip pointer? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
The small ball crap has to go. Randle is pathetic defensively
Looked fine when Randle gave a damn about playing defense.
Incidentally, I wonder if KIROE's theory is right. Maybe Randle's just tired (as opposed to the beginning of the season when he had fresh legs) and that's why he's slacking on defense. Maybe...
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:23 pm Post subject:
Jim99187 wrote:
you go pay a guy 64m/4 on the 1st second and then play him 20mins? when the other team is specially playing Len 34 and Chandler 23 mins?
what the hell Luke
I guess you are clueless of Mozgov's playing history.
Good to see Luke call a quick TO in the 3rd and get into the team, their effort after that was much improved. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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