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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:16 am    Post subject: Elgin Baylor Legacy and Statue

Elgin Baylor is the most under-rated, overlooked super-star in NBA history.
Elgin Baylor. The league's first hang-time highlight machine. Based on what I've found to date, just over 2% of his career field goals exists in footage.
This is all of it put together in an attempt to show how he played the game of basketball, and why he's so underrated.
Today Baylor his gets his day in the sun!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjNS_oYE92E

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The Statue-Worthy Legacy of Elgin Baylor
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Elgin Baylors Bio:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject:

Elgin Baylor Finally Gets His Due

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Baylor played 14 seasons for the Lakers—in Minneapolis and in L.A.—and was the City of Angels' first basketball superstar. But his exploits have largely been lost to time, and the absence of his image in the Staples courtyard has only been felt by those old enough—and lucky enough—to witness his on-court wizardry.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2768546-kobe-before-kobe-lebron-before-lebron-elgin-baylor-finally-gets-his-due
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:34 am    Post subject:

He was a true pioneer and I am glad he was a Laker!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8DOIbbOcwk
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:01 am    Post subject:

I am glad that he is getting a statue but I don’t remember watching him play. I remember as a kid getting an audio player that you could put in discs for each player and it would give their career highlights. I loved listening to Elgin’s.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject:

At what point does it become statue over-saturation?

1) Wayne Gretzky
2) Magic Johnson
3) Oscar De La Hoya
4) Chick Hearn
5) Jerry West
6) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7) Luc Robitaille
8) Shaquille O'Neal
9) Bob Miller
10) Elgin Baylor

Kobe is next. Jerry Buss should get one, not sure why he hasn't gotten one yet.
They were debating on the radio if James Worthy should get one. I think Mychal Thompson said he should.

What's the number where it becomes too many statues?

How about this:

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The LA Clippers don’t have any representatives in statue form in front of the Staples Center, something Chris Paul hopes to correct someday.

CP3 says he “would love to have a statue” built once his playing days come to an end.

“I ain’t gonna lie to you, I haven’t drove by those statues yet,” Paul told The Undefeated late Tuesday night. “I don’t come in that way. No, I don’t come in that way. Where are they at, by the way? Are they in the front? We come in that back way. …



“I would love to have a statue. Love it. Absolutely. But there is a lot of work to be done before that’s the case. With those guys out there, you think about leaving a lasting imprint. It’s bigger than the game. All those guys out there have done that.”


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject:

Bob Miller has a statue? I must have missed that one. Staples is the sports complex of the world. There is plenty of room for statues. I definitely think Dr Buss should get one. I don't think Worthy should get one.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:

Chris Paul doesn't deserve a statue. smh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
At what point does it become statue over-saturation?

1) Wayne Gretzky
2) Magic Johnson
3) Oscar De La Hoya
4) Chick Hearn
5) Jerry West
6) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7) Luc Robitaille
8) Shaquille O'Neal
9) Bob Miller
10) Elgin Baylor

Kobe is next. Jerry Buss should get one, not sure why he hasn't gotten one yet.
They were debating on the radio if James Worthy should get one. I think Mychal Thompson said he should.

What's the number where it becomes too many statues?

How about this:

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The LA Clippers don’t have any representatives in statue form in front of the Staples Center, something Chris Paul hopes to correct someday.

CP3 says he “would love to have a statue” built once his playing days come to an end.

“I ain’t gonna lie to you, I haven’t drove by those statues yet,” Paul told The Undefeated late Tuesday night. “I don’t come in that way. No, I don’t come in that way. Where are they at, by the way? Are they in the front? We come in that back way. …



“I would love to have a statue. Love it. Absolutely. But there is a lot of work to be done before that’s the case. With those guys out there, you think about leaving a lasting imprint. It’s bigger than the game. All those guys out there have done that.”


It's a testament to the greatness around that building and around that franchise. There's no such thing as "too many statues" when you have THAT much legacy and prestige.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Bob Miller has a statue? I must have missed that one. Staples is the sports complex of the world. There is plenty of room for statues. I definitely think Dr Buss should get one. I don't think Worthy should get one.


Yup, that what it says here:

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On January 13, 2018 a ninth statue, of legendary Kings announcer Bob Miller, was unveiled.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject:

Worthy should definitely get one
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Elgin Baylor Legacy and Statue

pio2u wrote:
[b]Elgin Baylor is the most under-rated, overlooked super-star in NBA history.


Pretty much all the pre-70s stars other than Wilt, Russell, West and Oscar bring a shrug from people. In that regard, Baylor stands with Bob Pettit, Bob Cousy, Dolph Schayes, George Mikan, and the other guys who built the league in the early days.

I know what Baylor accomplished, and appreciate his place in basketball history, but I feel zero emotional connection to him. It's nice he's getting a statue, but I can't say I really care one way or the other about it. I remember him more for all his grief as a Clippers GM and the silly lawsuit he launched for being underpaid after he was fired.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:31 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
Worthy should definitely get one


Yeah, if Worthy gets one, then you gotta think about Pau Gasol.

Then you can go through the list of retired numbers:

1) Wilt Chamberlain (13)
2) Elgin Baylor (22)
3) Gail Goodrich (25)
4) Magic Johnson (32)
5) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (33)
6) Shaquille O’Neal (34)
7) James Worthy (42)
8) Jerry West (44)
9) Jamaal Wilkes (52)
10) Kobe Bryant (3) and (24)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:33 pm    Post subject:

It's starting.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject:

Any links?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject:

It's on Spectrum but no live streams on lakers.com
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Terracotta_Army%2C_View_of_Pit_1.jpg .

getting crowded .
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
At what point does it become statue over-saturation?

1) Wayne Gretzky
2) Magic Johnson
3) Oscar De La Hoya
4) Chick Hearn
5) Jerry West
6) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7) Luc Robitaille
8) Shaquille O'Neal
9) Bob Miller
10) Elgin Baylor

Kobe is next. Jerry Buss should get one, not sure why he hasn't gotten one yet.
They were debating on the radio if James Worthy should get one. I think Mychal Thompson said he should.

What's the number where it becomes too many statues?

How about this:

Quote:
The LA Clippers don’t have any representatives in statue form in front of the Staples Center, something Chris Paul hopes to correct someday.

CP3 says he “would love to have a statue” built once his playing days come to an end.

“I ain’t gonna lie to you, I haven’t drove by those statues yet,” Paul told The Undefeated late Tuesday night. “I don’t come in that way. No, I don’t come in that way. Where are they at, by the way? Are they in the front? We come in that back way. …



“I would love to have a statue. Love it. Absolutely. But there is a lot of work to be done before that’s the case. With those guys out there, you think about leaving a lasting imprint. It’s bigger than the game. All those guys out there have done that.”


It's a testament to the greatness around that building and around that franchise. There's no such thing as "too many statues" when you have THAT much legacy and prestige.


concur - we’re blessed with such greatness - I saw Elgin play prior to his retirement the year West, Chamberlain and Stumpie ripped off 33 games in a row and took the chip.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject:

awesome statue - in motion

https://mobile.twitter.com/LosLakers/status/982430982862024704/photo/1


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:30 pm    Post subject:

I can't believe this wasn't streamed. Elgin getting disrespected.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:16 pm    Post subject:

I wonder if any Laker fans under 30 give a damn about Elgin?

I'm pretty sure no here under 55 actually saw him play, so I just question the relevance...

And most just think of him as the Clippers GM for like 20 years...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
I wonder if any Laker fans under 30 give a damn about Elgin?

I'm pretty sure no here under 55 actually saw him play, so I just question the relevance...

And most just think of him as the Clippers GM for like 20 years...


my millennial kids and nephews know about him
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject:

A wonderful honor and long overdue. And that is one nice statue!

As Stu Lantz correctly touched on yesterday, the Lakers never would have survived in Minneapolis, much less made it to Los Angeles, if they had not been able to sign Baylor to a $20,000 rookie contract, a massive sum in the NBA of 1958.

Minneapolis (and first LA) Lakers owner Bob Short later recalled of signing Baylor, "If he had turned me down then, I would have been out of business. The club would have gone bankrupt."

It was nice to see the great Bill Russell at the ceremony as well. It's inspiring how much love and respect there is from Baylor and West for a man that caused them so much pain in their playing careers, and I believe Russell feels the same way about them.

I had the pleasure as a kid to see Baylor play in person a handful of times and while he was slowing down by that point, it was thrilling for me to see him out there.

It was good that the Lakers finally got around to honoring Elg in this fashion, correcting an oversight that had been lingering for a while.

Thanks to one of the great Lakers, and one of the greatest players in the history of the sport. Can't wait to read his new autobiography.

Congratulations, Mr. Inside.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject:

I never really spent much time watching his highlights. After watching the links in this thread, it looks like he was the Lebron of his era. The do-it-all forward who was a physical presence. He's the guy that Lebron should be compared to, not MJ or Magic.

It's weird watching some of those highlights because it looks like someone dropped a modern player on the court with those other guys who move like robots. Way ahead of his time. It's easy to see how he saved the Lakers from bankruptcy.

Congrats to Elgin on the great honor.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
I wonder if any Laker fans under 30 give a damn about Elgin?

I'm pretty sure no here under 55 actually saw him play, so I just question the relevance...

And most just think of him as the Clippers GM for like 20 years...


i used to wonder if the lakers gave a damn about him. its not about age when you see youths in chamberlain and west jerseys but never baylor. i dont think they ever even released baylor throwbacks.
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