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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject: CLIPPERS -at- LAKERS – 4-6-16 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Finish Line In Sight… The Lakers hung in there most of the first half, until a 10-0 Clipper run in the final couple minutes. That would ultimately prove to be the difference in the game as the Lakers could never recover, falling 91-81 to the Clippers.

“We couldn’t throw a rock in the ocean,” Randle said. The Lakers just 4 assists in that first half and 12 for the game.

The buzz in air was a lot stronger as this was Kobe’s second to last game at Staples. He put on a decent show with 17 points and a strong opening quarter. A lot of love in Staples for him.

“It feels pretty damn awesome,” Kobe said of the fans.

Asked afterward about the Lakers making some franchise history in losses, he said, “It’s very black and white to me. Whether you set a franchise record for losses or you get to the playoffs and lose in the Western Conference Finals those are the same damn thing to me.”


Kobe -- -- The lights are almost ready to dim on Kobe’s last performance at Staples Center. Just one home game left. Pretty sure the fans won’t stop chanting his name for a long time in the last one. What a beautiful sound that was tonight when he checked out. A much better start for Kobe in this one and that helped the Lakers hang in there early on. Kobe has seemingly looked better on the second night of back-to-backs, but the stats on 0 days rest don’t show a significant improvement. Better than 1 day of rest, but not substantially. He led the Lakers in the first half with 10 points. On second nights of the back-to-back he averages 16.7 points…he finished with 17. He had the highlight shot of the night with a high-arching jumper on the baseline before falling down. So tough, so nice. “The energy is crazy every time we step into Staples Center,” Clarkson said. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 6-19 shooting (1-6 from three, 4-4 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 28 minutes. He was a -15. The Action: He sank the Dirk fade on our first possession. He missed a baseline turnaround next time down. He missed a wing three on the next trip down (Russell was wide open next to him). He attacked from the corner and reversed (some good ball movement on that sequence). He missed a high arching fade in the lane. He hit Hibbert under the hoop and was irked he was wrapped up too easily before finishing. He attacked across the lane, drew the whistle and hit the one-handed And-1, he made the FT. He popped open in the corner and drained the three. He missed a turnaround on iso. He was blocked trying to iso against Jordan up against the shotclock. He missed a high arching runner in early offense. He missed a fade across the lane. He bricked a flat three trying to draw the whistle. Second Half: He threw a pass away on the two-man game right to a rolling Clipper, Randle just standing there. He jumped a passing lane, swiped the ball and lobbed to Clarkson on the break for a dunk. He curled into the lane, took the pass and hit the high-arching jumper over Jordan. He attacked right and drew FTs on the baseline fade, he made both. He spun around his man, attacked to the right and swished the rainbow over the D before falling down (shot of the night so far). He got tapped on a baseline jumper next time down. Not close on a long jumper. He made a tech FT. He missed a deep three. He missed a deep three out of a timeout. He missed another long three on iso.

Clarkson -- -- Better start in this one with 9 first half points and 2 of the Lakers 4 assists (and some better effort on D, as well). “Just defensively, I think we did a better job early,” Clarkson said. He struggled to put together a complete game, however. The three ball not dropping for him. Ultimately, like the rest of the starters, not terribly efficient. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 5-15 shooting (1-7 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 32 minutes. He was a -2. The Action: He swished a tricky hanging runner probing the lane. He scooped up the loose ball and it took it the distance for a layup. He sank the sideline three off the kickout. He missed a baseline fade. He attacked off the wing screen and drew FTs, he made both. He attacked the paint and couldn’t finish. He hit Sacre for a layup off a backcourt steal. He missed a baseline runner. Second Half: He was called for a charge trying to bully his way past Redick in the post area. He threw down the lob from Kobe on the break. He missed a three and didn’t get back on D. He swished the wing pull-up working off the screen. Way short on a deep three. He got tapped on a sideline three. He missed a floater in the lane over DeAndre, but Black cleaned up the dribble penetration. He missed a pretty good look at a pull-up jumper at the third quarter buzzer. He missed a couple of threes.

Russell -- -- He set the Lakers rookie record for most threes in a season, sorry Van Exel. They also said he was the youngest player to make as many threes as he has. He’s hit a wall lately. I’m sure the mental fatigue from all the drama has been pretty tough, but he certainly hasn’t been the player we saw for the last couple months prior while going through this. Some better moments tonight as he knocked down a couple of threes and was able to create in the paint. Watching him run a screen-roll with Hibbert is painful. Russell has to wait and wait until Roy slowly rumbles to the hoop and is available for a pocket pass. Meanwhile, the Clippers just throw the ball up at the rim and DeAndre Jordan comes out of the rafters for a variety of dunks. Russell wants to let Kobe loose in his final game. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 5-13 shooting (2-5 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 35 minutes. He was a -13. The Action: He crossed over and swished the leaner from about 12 feet out. He missed a pull-up jumper. He airballed a baseline jumper off the inbounds. Quick attack after tracking down a loose ball and he hit the midrange pull-up. He missed a quick-fire three trying to go two-for-one. He was blocked on a drive to his right. He iso’d and coughed it up. Second Half: He missed a post fade. He missed a wide open corner three. He jab stepped slowly and swished the three straight away. He missed a three on iso. He drained a wing three on the catch and shoot. Good double team on one end that eventually resulted in an airball, he then pushed that out quickly and drew FTs in the paint, he made one. He blew past his man on iso and hit the short floater. He dribbled into traffic and lost the ball. He missed a baseline runner.

Randle -- -- You look at the stat line at halftime and see Randle already with 13 boards. Dude is just a rebounding machine. Funny thing, only one starter (Kobe) had 1 rebound in that first half, so Randle had 13 of the starter’s 14 boards. He finished with 20 boards…20. That’s 20. “This is his rookie year,” AC Green said afterward, shaking his head. I loved Randle’s motor in college, but he’s in such better shape now. “It’s just a mentality, just go get it,” he said of the rebounding. He also mentioned that not hitting shots, he’s not going to stop his aggression. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 3-11 shooting (1-2 form the line) to go with 20 boards (6 offensive), 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 27 minutes. He was a -9. The Action: He clanked a wing jumper on his first touch. He missed a wing step-back jumper. He sank an 18-footer. He was blocked on a putback layup. He attacked hard but missed a layup. He threw an outlet away. He tipped in a Sacre miss. He choked a putback layup. Second Half: He missed a high arching baseline jumper off the inbounds. Wide right on a jumper. He hit Hibbert with an interior feed for a score. He jump passed and threw it away against a double team. He scooped up a loose ball and took it for a layup. He grabbed a board and drew FTs, he made one.

Hibbert -- -- Scott mixed in more Sacre at C in this one, limiting the damage Hibbert can do. Kobe snapped at him in this game for not being able to finish around the rim on a pass from him. Roy is like the Reverse Matrix out there – everyone else is Neo and he’s stuck in slow-mo. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-4 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 2 offensive boards, 1 block and 3 fouls in 17 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He was wrapped up under the hoop on a feed from Kobe, he made both FTs. He missed a 20-footer. Good read to disrupt a lob. He airballed a turnaround over CP3 up against the shotclock (just shoot a regular jumper over him). Second Half: He missed a hook on our first attempt of the half. He made a layup off the drive and dish from Randle.

Nance -- -- While he was a non-factor on offensive, he was active on D, grabbing boards and coming up with steals. Our PF spot tonight combined for 27 boards. Fans really want to cheer for him offensively. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-4 shooting to go with 7 boards, 2 steals, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 20 minutes. He was a +3. The Action: He broke up a lob pass. He missed a layup trying to finish off a dribble. He had to chuck up a long turnaround wing jumper, barely beating the shotclock. Second Half: He missed an open baseline jumper. He scooped up a loose ball and was stripped trying to push it out. He attacked off the three line on one dribble and finished off a couple long strides. He fumbled an interior pass away.

Black -- -- Double-digit scoring night for Tarik. I liked seeing him step up to DeAndre Jordan when the two got tangled up at midcourt. That will earn him 5 shiny Man Up stars from Scott. Some very good effort on the glass and around the rim with some nice touch. He also got to the line for a few FTs. He’s way too flatfooted on his FTs, but I’m glad he moved in from shooting them a foot behind the line. He’s looked a little better since then. The Stats: He scored 11 points on 4-5 shooting (3-4 from the line) to go with 5 boards (4 offensive), 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 17 minutes. He was a -3. The Action: He worked the post, spun and hit the lefty jumphook off glass (very nice). He was fouled on a dunk attempt, he made one FT. He was stripped in the lane. Second Half: He drew FTs battling on the offensive glass, he made both. A couple tips and he got the Clarkson drive to fall. He scored the controlled lefty layup over a defender, working the two-man game. He sealed his man, took the high entry and put it in before coming down.

Huertas -- -- The Clippers were definitely looking to make Huertas a scorer as much as possible, but he found teammates and led the team with 5 assists. The Lakers just 12 assists for the game, so sad. Getting 5 assists on this team might be like 10 on another. “We’ve got to face every game like a challenge and play well,” he said. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-8 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 2 boards, 5 assists, 2 turnovers and no fouls in 28 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He tracked down a loose ball, attacked with the shotclock low and banked. He attacked and kicked to Clarkson for the three. He threw a pass away and wanted the foul. He attacked Blake off a hesitation dribble and flipped in a tricky runner from 12 feet out to beat the shotclock. He drew an offensive foul on D drawing attention to an off-arm clear out. Not close on an open three. Second Half: He missed the runner on the baseline in early offense (I like seeing us creating a shot before the D can set up). He setup Black for a layup off the two-man game. Not close on a scoop in the lane. He banked in the runner from the left side. He missed a runner (should have hit Nance rolling on that one). He grabbed a shotblock and heaved it to the rim to avoid a shotclock violation. He kicked to Russell for the wing three.

Kelly -- -- With Nance playing on the second night of the back-to-back that limited Kelly’s action. Metta was the first SF off the bench and Nance the first PF. He scratched out a couple of hoops and the team generally did well with him on the floor. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-3 shooting (0-1 from the line) to go with 1 board in 8 minutes. He was a +12. The Action: He attacked Pierce, spun and banked in the And-1, he missed the FT. Second Half: He was rejected on a turnaround. He sank a fade in the lane.

World Peace -- -- Yeah, not quite the scoring machine we saw last night. Metta was largely a non-factor in this one. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting and had 2 fouls in 14 minutes. He was a -11. The Action: He attacked past Pierce and wanted the foul on the strip. He missed a fade across the lane. Second Half: Nothing to report.

Sacre -- -- He got in early in this one, taking minutes from Roy. Much more effective minutes than Hibbert. Nice to see him get some quality minutes versus garbage time. He missed a couple of big shots late in the fourth that might have given the team a little spark as they were trimming the lead down at the time. Our backup C’s combined for 7 offensive board. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-6 shooting to go with 5 boards, 1 turnover and no fouls in 15 minutes. He was a -1. The Action: He scored a layup on the feed from Clarkson. He crashed the glass, fought for the board and hit the putback jumphook. He missed a baseline jumper next time down. He missed a one-hander in the middle of the lane. Second Half: He missed a short jumphook in the middle of the paint. He missed another short jumper in the lane.

Scott -- -- Most losses in franchise history today… Strong start by Kobe in this one and the Lakers had a 20-17 lead when the first timeout came with 4:36 left… Scott brought in Huertas and Metta for Randle and Clarkson. MWP at PF… Black in for Hibbert, Lakers down 3… Down 1 when Kobe sat with 10 points for Nance, who moved Metta over to SF… The Lakers trailed 29-25 after the first quarter… He started the Black, Nance, Metta, Clarkson, Huertas unit… Down 5, he brought in Kelly at SF for MWP after a couple minutes… Sacre in for Black at the 8:37 mark, Lakers down 6… Lakers down 2 when Kobe and Randle returned for Kelly and Nance… Russell in for Huertas down 2 still… Scott called a timeout down 5… Clarkson out for Huertas with foul trouble with 2 minutes left, Lakers down 7… A 15-2 run for the Clippers late in the half… The Lakers trailed 54-42 and had just 4 assists in the first half… Huertas in for Russell, Lakers down 13 midway through the quarter… Down 15, he sat Randle and Hibbert for Black and Nance… He sat Kobe for Metta shortly later… They played even for the third quarter and trailed 73-61 heading into the fourth. They scored only 36 points between the second and third quarters… He started the Black, Nance, Metta, Russell, Huertas lineup… The lead extended to 17 and Scott called a timeout… Kelly in for Metta out of that… Randle and Sacre in for Nance and Black down 11… Kobe in for with 5 minutes left, Clarkson as well, a few seconds later… Timeout down 13… They couldn’t reel them in…
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Almost done for the season.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:49 pm    Post subject:

“It’s very black and white to me. Whether you set a franchise record for losses or you get to the playoffs and lose in the Western Conference Finals those are the same damn thing to me.”

Yeah no it isn't Kobe, nice try tho

Thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:53 pm    Post subject:

Thanks, DB.

Tarik is a bright spot late in the season. His is our best Big other than Bass. No reason other than to have Hibbert or anyone else get more PT at the C spot over him since the All-Star break or even before. Just way more energy and hustle and productivity. Sadly, he probably doesn't stay with the team past this year or next.

I'm really starting to dislike JC. His body language lately has been poor. His defense is atrocious. And he plays too selfish a lot of the time. He was swinging his arms around, shaking his head and throwing mini tantrums out there tonight. Bad form, JC. Shape up or ship out.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:14 pm    Post subject:

It's finally starting to sink in... Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Thanks DB for all your hard work this season, giving in-depth analysis on a unwatchable team. Your summaries make it easy for me to read for when I don't care enough to tune in.

(Yeah, I know. I'm a bad Lakers fan lately. I'm all for a good game of bball but not up for pathetic bball. If that makes any sense.)

But seriously. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:28 pm    Post subject:

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THX DB. GO LAKERS
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:14 am    Post subject:

The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
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I haven't been able to watch games lately. Just haven't been interested. I start playing them on DVR and then just start doing something else partway through and occasionally rewind when I hear a cheer. It's depressing. Glad I have DB's recap to see if I missed anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:24 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?


A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:33 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Kinda sad to see the Kobe Bryant era come to an end. I'm much happier though to see the Byron Scott era come to an end. Assuming it comes to an end...

I expect we'll see a real team next year with a real coach. And I also expect more engagement/involvement in a decent motion offense will lead many players towards more defensive intensity as well, when these games really are close and one stop can make the difference in the outcome more often. That, and some real instruction on team concepts. I still expect to see something more closely resembling the team that took it to the GSW shortly after the ASB, not the pathetic shell we've seen to close the season. 4 more games, here's hoping.
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mhan00 wrote:
I haven't been able to watch games lately. Just haven't been interested. I start playing them on DVR and then just start doing something else partway through and occasionally rewind when I hear a cheer. It's depressing. Glad I have DB's recap to see if I missed anything.


I hear you. I have the TV or laptop on, but these last two games in particular I really mentally checked out from actually *watching*

No idea how DB has been doing it these last couple seasons…
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: CLIPPERS -at- LAKERS – 4-6-16 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

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Huertas -- -- The Clippers were definitely looking to make Huertas a scorer as much as possible, but he found teammates and led the team with 5 assists.


I'm sure that was Prigioni's input to Doc. It's a regular trap Argentina uses when playing against Brazil: leave Huertas free to shoot and limit his passing targets. In these games, Huertas scores 20-25 points (in FIBA's 40min games), but we (yes, I'm Brazilian) end up losing.
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TDRock wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
I haven't been able to watch games lately. Just haven't been interested. I start playing them on DVR and then just start doing something else partway through and occasionally rewind when I hear a cheer. It's depressing. Glad I have DB's recap to see if I missed anything.


I hear you. I have the TV or laptop on, but these last two games in particular I really mentally checked out from actually *watching*

No idea how DB has been doing it these last couple seasons…


Late into that first Clipper game a couple nights ago, I had a couple of check out moments where I had to rewind and watch what happened for the notes. I don't think I've done that in the past two years...and I did it twice.

On the rare occasion where I watch the game and am not doing this writeup...my attention definitely loses focus. I don't pay close attention to the details, the plays run, etc. It's a different kind of watching.

This time last year, I was pretty tired. Right now...I have mixed feelings. I'm looking forward to the end of this trainwreck, but knowing this is the last we will see Kobe on the floor, I wouldn't mind if it lasted longer. Going to miss him.
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DB, these last 3 years, how much have you aged?
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DB, these last 3 years, how much have you aged?


Ha. People still think I'm 10 years younger than I am, so I must be handling it well. I think I have to channel my zen more in the playoffs or when something is on the line.

These games are frustrating and can piss you off at times, but I've set my expectations low. (And yet we still come in below those ... )
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tox wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas
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A Mad Chinaman wrote:
tox wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas


Better "positional" defense? What does that even mean? I've seen him routinely get roasted (due to his tiny size). Plus, he's a backup and doesn't have to routinely go up against the top guards.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:17 pm    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
tox wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas


Huertas is a savvier player with his experience. He struggled a lot to begin the season and seemed to have a lowlight play every game but seems to have adjusted to the speed of the game. You should expect the 32 to look better than the kids. He also has had the freedom to call of Byron's sets more --- though to be fair, I think he has done a better job than any other point guard on the team when running ad hoc PnR plays, even factoring in quality of role man.

That is a good question on what the team should do if JC is offered $12M. Do you have confidence in this team finding a better player with upside as a replacement? He is only 23. I probably match, but I do so grudgingly and with my teeth bared.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
tox wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas


Better "positional" defense? What does that even mean? I've seen him routinely get roasted (due to his tiny size). Plus, he's a backup and doesn't have to routinely go up against the top guards.


I actually agree Huertas plays better defense. I know his defense was laughably bad to begin the season as he struggled to adjust to the speed of the game. But from what I have seen recently it has been surprisingly solid. Take it with a grain of salt since I haven't watched too much. Quality of opponent is well-taken but it's not just the starters beating Clarkson routinely off the dribble.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:23 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
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The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas


Better "positional" defense? What does that even mean? I've seen him routinely get roasted (due to his tiny size). Plus, he's a backup and doesn't have to routinely go up against the top guards.


I actually agree Huertas plays better defense. I know his defense was laughably bad to begin the season as he struggled to adjust to the speed of the game. But from what I have seen recently it has been surprisingly solid. Take it with a grain of salt since I haven't watched too much. Quality of opponent is well-taken but it's not just the starters beating Clarkson routinely off the dribble.


That is all on experience. And he spends most of the time with our better Cs. Unlike Russell, who has to play with Hibbert.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:36 am    Post subject:

s_habe wrote:
tox wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
tox wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
The young players focused on the problems on offense as the issue, while the coaching staff and media pundits says defense is the issue.

How much patience will LG posters/fans have in waiting for these young players to grow up.

With JC, given that his efforts haven't made much of an actual impact on games (though he fills a stat sheet), how many agree that he is worth $12M-$15M?
A nay from here. Not yet. He might grow into it if you believe another coach might teach him proper defense, though.
So if JC asks for $12M as a RFA, we would do a S&T and maybe get DeRozan

Isn't it amazing that Huertsas gets assists in the same system as DLO and plays better positional defense than JC. Ironic since JC and DLO has uber physical gifts that far exceeds Huertsas
Better "positional" defense? What does that even mean? I've seen him routinely get roasted (due to his tiny size). Plus, he's a backup and doesn't have to routinely go up against the top guards.
I actually agree Huertas plays better defense. I know his defense was laughably bad to begin the season as he struggled to adjust to the speed of the game. But from what I have seen recently it has been surprisingly solid. Take it with a grain of salt since I haven't watched too much. Quality of opponent is well-taken but it's not just the starters beating Clarkson routinely off the dribble.
That is all on experience. And he spends most of the time with our better Cs. Unlike Russell, who has to play with Hibbert.
DLO has played a great deal with Bass. Of course, getting constantly and consistently on the perimeter will put any big in trouble, especially one that is depended on opposing players to be funneled to a certain section of the court.

Fascinating that the energy level and cohesiveness is much better in the second unit. The starting unit is VERY predictable since they are just taking turns going ISO - in stark contrast to what was seen in the Spurs vs Warriors game where all the players are more physically gifted and infinite higher basketball IQ
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^ I know it's not going to deviate you from your blame the young players schtick (two of our better defenders are young players of course you ignore that), but it's quite obvious that Byron has Huertas and Russell running different sets and running with different players. You know what Huerta's net rating is with Hibbert on the floor? Minus 34!
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^ I know it's not going to deviate you from your blame the young players schtick (two of our better defenders are young players of course you ignore that), but it's quite obvious that Byron has Huertas and Russell running different sets and running with different players. You know what Huerta's net rating is with Hibbert on the floor? Minus 34!
So who are our two best defenders

Wondering who have been on the court during our fantastic start of games and the beginning of the third quarter

What are your thoughts on why Huertsas leading the 2nd team has to always make up big deficits

How many MPG has Huertsas played with Hibbert
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