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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Other than coach of the year 2013, what has Karl done? He's a nice guy but I don't rank him with elite coaches. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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shnxx Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. |
Yeah I guess he is rich enough to not cater to others in ways that one has to in professional settings, and especially in the NBA with stars. |
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K28 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. |
I'd still take him over Byron. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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K28 wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. |
I'd still take him over Byron. |
I'll wait to see how the FO drafts and Byron coaches void of Kobe farewell. I've always been a 20 games in before judging guy. I'm hoping Scott will pass muster. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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jodeke wrote: | K28 wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. |
I'd still take him over Byron. |
I'll wait to see how the FO drafts and Byron coaches void of Kobe farewell. I've always been a 20 games in before judging guy. I'm hoping Scott will pass muster. |
So the worse NBA coaching record with a body of work over 1000 games isn't enough eh Jo? |
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kwase Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Just say no to Karl. If you look throughout his career, he's been at the helm of teams that have made some monumental failures. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Karl is a good coach for a team without strong personalities. This is why he was able to coach that Denver team to that regular season record years ago. Problem is DMC basically runs the Kings, so Karl was just gonna be another casualty of the Kings coaching carousel. |
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Worthy42 Franchise Player
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What!?.. He coached stints at Denver that had AI, Melo, KMart, JR Smith, Birdman... teams without strong personalities.
It's true his days are over as a successful winning coach, I think age, health all play into it.
Those Denver squads he had were quite volatile. He also coached GP/Shawn Kemp who were pretty strong personalities in their own right.
I see the Kings logic in bringing him in last season. It was just past his time. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | jodeke wrote: | K28 wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | Karl was a horrible fit for the Kings from the start and honestly didn't do a good job there.
There was a reason Denver moved on from him despite his success. He is a difficult personality and grates on people. That is tolerable when you are winning but not so when you are losing.
Immediately alienating your franchise player (Boogie Cousins) within a week of being hired is probably not a template the new breed of coaches are following either.
Karl has made a lot of money coaching in the NBA, he is like Jeff Fisher of the NFL, basketball version.
Time to give some other guys a shot, George is done. |
I'd still take him over Byron. |
I'll wait to see how the FO drafts and Byron coaches void of Kobe farewell. I've always been a 20 games in before judging guy. I'm hoping Scott will pass muster. |
So the worse NBA coaching record with a body of work over 1000 games isn't enough eh Jo? |
Nope. Too many variances for me to make a fair judgment. Did you factor the good rosters vs lousy rosters records?
I'll wait to judge him using the criterion I posted. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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