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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:17 am    Post subject: rank the top 5 players in the NBA as of right now

not a ranking of body of work or future outlook but what players are capable of right now
here's mine:

1)Curry
2)Lebron
3)Durant
4)Kawhi
5)CP3
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:21 am    Post subject:

Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:22 am    Post subject:

Curry
LeBron
Durant
CP3
Westbrook

Honorary Mention: Kawhi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject:

sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:32 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


OKC never found the right coach (and still hasn't). Additionally, they haven't done much to improve the roster around KD and Russ. They turned James Harden and Reggie Jackson into Steven Adams and Enes Kanter. But yeah, the other problem is that OKC just happens to be competing at the same time as two GOAT teams.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:25 pm    Post subject:

1a) Steph Curry
1b) Lebron James
3) Kevin Durant
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Kawhi Leonard
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:26 pm    Post subject:

sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant

This is pretty much it
people could argue about the order they're in, but these are the top 5 as of now
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject:

Curry Lebron Kawhi Durant

Less sure about Westbrook. Could give it to CP3. Could give it Anthony Davis... but probably Westbrook
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:44 pm    Post subject:

Steph curry is the undisputed #1 player in the world.
2. Lebronze
3. KD
4. RUSTY
5. Kawhi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Top six players by:

Player Efficiency Rating

Code:
1.   Stephen Curry ▪ GSW   31.5
2.   Kevin Durant  ▪ OKC   28.2
3.   R Westbrook   ▪ OKC   27.6
4.   LeBron James  ▪ CLE   27.5
5.   Chris Paul    ▪ LAC   26.2
6.   Kawhi Leonard ▪ SAS   26.0


Win Shares Per 48 Minutes

Code:
1.   Stephen Curry ▪ GSW   .318
2.   Kawhi Leonard ▪ SAS   .277
3.   Kevin Durant  ▪ OKC   .270
4.   Chris Paul    ▪ LAC   .253
5.   R Westbrook   ▪ OKC   .245
6.   LeBron James  ▪ CLE   .242


Simple Rating

Code:
GSW     Curry      +21.0
CLE     James      +18.3
OKC     Durant     +17.0
SAS     Leonard    +14.3
LAC     Paul       +14.3
OKC     Westbrook  +12.6

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:52 pm    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
Simple Rating

Code:
GSW     Curry      +21.0
CLE     James      +18.3
OKC     Durant     +17.0
SAS     Leonard    +14.3
LAC     Paul       +14.3


I go with this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:01 pm    Post subject:

Stephen Curry
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kawhi Leonard
Chris Paul
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject:

Then there is Real Plus Minus

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1   Stephen Curry, PG   GS   8.85   
2   LeBron James,  SF   CLE  8.37   
3   Draymond Green,PF   GS   8.28   
4   Kawhi Leonard, SF   SA   8.20
5   Chris Paul,    PG   LAC  8.07   
6   R Westbrook,   PG   OKC  7.58   


7   Kyle Lowry,    PG   TOR  6.33   
8   Kevin Durant,  SF   OKC  6.08   

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:51 pm    Post subject:

I don't think any gm in the league would take CP over rusty.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:00 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


Kawhi over Durant?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:08 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


OKC never found the right coach (and still hasn't). Additionally, they haven't done much to improve the roster around KD and Russ. They turned James Harden and Reggie Jackson into Steven Adams and Enes Kanter. But yeah, the other problem is that OKC just happens to be competing at the same time as two GOAT teams.


I would have to say they never really found complementary players to surround Westbrook and Durant who were content in their roles. When you had guys like Harden and Reggie Jackson that wanted to break out, they were treated like the 3rd wheel on the team and had to go find their breakout roles on another team.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
ocho wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


OKC never found the right coach (and still hasn't). Additionally, they haven't done much to improve the roster around KD and Russ. They turned James Harden and Reggie Jackson into Steven Adams and Enes Kanter. But yeah, the other problem is that OKC just happens to be competing at the same time as two GOAT teams.


I would have to say they never really found complementary players to surround Westbrook and Durant who were content in their roles. When you had guys like Harden and Reggie Jackson that wanted to break out, they were treated like the 3rd wheel on the team and had to go find their breakout roles on another team.


They got a 26 year old Tyson Chandler for virtually nothing but then vetoed the trade because they were concerned about his back issues.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


Kawhi over Durant?
I think 3-5 are all interchangeable. Pretty close.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:54 pm    Post subject:

No Anthony Davis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:01 pm    Post subject:

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No Anthony Davis


Last year he was in my top 3. But I've had to drop him out of my top 5, too.

1. Curry
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Westbrook
5. Kawahi/Paul tie

Yes, I'm cheating with a tie at 5. I don't want to make a choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:09 pm    Post subject:

Curry
Durant
LeBron
Paul
Lenard
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:22 pm    Post subject:

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No Anthony Davis


Last year he was in my top 3. But I've had to drop him out of my top 5, too.

1. Curry
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Westbrook
5. Kawahi/Paul tie

Yes, I'm cheating with a tie at 5. I don't want to make a choice.


His injury history has to be considered to me. A huge part of getting the job done is just showing up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:25 pm    Post subject:

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No Anthony Davis

injured for too much of the year
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
ocho wrote:
sublimedominion wrote:
Curry
Lebron
Kawhi
Westbrook
Durant


Pretty much this list or something close to it. What's crazy to me is that OKC has arguably two top 5 guys and there is a good chance they're not getting out of the 2nd round. Really puts into perspective the mountain we have to climb.


Kawhi over Durant?


I vacillate between thinking Kawhi's already eclipsed Durant (based primarily on his performance advantages on the defensive side of the court) and thinking it's maybe too soon to consider that possibility ... regardless, 7 - 33 with 7 turnovers by Durant tonight is a (bleep) abomination. I didn't catch the game ... who was even guarding him? Does Dallas even have a SF on its roster?

Needless to say, tonight's was not a game to cement Durant's position in the Top 5. I know we've developed a cottage industry here in LA built around small, coordinated groups of individuals arguing that missed FGA and turnovers don't really matter at all ... but c'mon, man. It wouldn't surprise me to learn 1/2 of Oklahoma City is probably cool with Durant and/or Westbrook walking once their UFA windows open (albeit with some S&T remuneration). Seriously - how can they continue to (bleep) the bed with that much talent? The roster in Dallas is one step up from the one in Memphis right now ... OKC should be running them out of the gym.
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