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samnizam
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: Would the fans would be happy with any coach.? |
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I don't think the fan will ever happy with any coach but Phil Jackson.
Byron Scott did not have a chance to coach this team. With kobe issue he was a scapegoat. For the incompetent of the front office. No other coach would have done better.
Goodluck Byron a true laker who did it because he lived the Lakers
Even our front office was disfunction. |
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No, we've been there..l.
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Halflife
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No. Imagine
Nate McMillan
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Lakers95
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No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
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Laker_Dynasty_01
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| Lakers95 wrote: | No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
Mark Madsen or Randy Wittman? |
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a2j1m
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| Lakers95 wrote: | No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
I honestly wouldn't mind Mark Jackson... I don't think he gets enough credit with what he did with the Warriors. He pretty much made that team |
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pio2u
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| a2j1m wrote: | | Lakers95 wrote: | No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
I honestly wouldn't mind Mark Jackson... I don't think he gets enough credit with what he did with the Warriors. He pretty much made that team |
Agreed |
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lalakersfan88
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| time to fire Mitch Kupchak also! Lakers needs a new general manager. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| a2j1m wrote: | | Lakers95 wrote: | No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
I honestly wouldn't mind Mark Jackson... I don't think he gets enough credit with what he did with the Warriors. He pretty much made that team |
he also belongs in the time period of the Christian Crusades. |
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The Logo
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| Please say no to Vinny Del Negro, Brian Shaw, Sam Mitchell, and Mark Jackson. That is all I ask. |
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SuperboyReformed
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| The people on this forum, IMO, have not been very reasonable with the coaching situation. Blame is being placed in the wrong people because we are losing a lot. Plus we are tanking, and have been for a while. So coaches are getting blamed, legends are being blamed, etc. We're just not used to losing like this because it's never happened for this organization. |
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AllorNothing
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Would we be happy with Kobe as coach? 
Man up x100 |
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LakerDynasty6.0
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I have a different question. Which coach (if any) would attract the big name FAs this summer?
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mde24
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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | | The people on this forum, IMO, have not been very reasonable with the coaching situation. Blame is being placed in the wrong people because we are losing a lot. Plus we are tanking, and have been for a while. So coaches are getting blamed, legends are being blamed, etc. We're just not used to losing like this because it's never happened for this organization. |
Spot on. Laker Fans will not be happy with any new coach, They will find fault until the Lakers start winning again. I do fear that fans have made so many ridiculous cases for our losing, it might be hard to let go of criticizing the organization.
#PissAndMoanForever.
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FromTheWestSideWithLove
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| Lakers95 wrote: | No to:
Mike Dunleavy
Mark Jackson
George Karl
Avery Johnson
Sam Mitchell
Derek Fisher
Brian Shaw
Vinny Del Negro
Kurt Rambis(if he's fired) |
this list sums it up.
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Fans would be happy with one coaching thread  |
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| When the OP says "Byron Scott did not have a chance to coach this team" I have no trouble remembering he did coach this team, right into the cellar for two years. Nobody forced B-Scott to come on board here. He saw what was here. He took it on. He failed, badly. |
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Show me the wins.
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KG24
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| The Logo wrote: | | Please say no to Vinny Del Negro, Brian Shaw, Sam Mitchell, and Mark Jackson. That is all I ask. |
Why not Mark Jackson? |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Would the fans would be happy with any coach.? |
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| samnizam wrote: | I don't think the fan will ever happy with any coach but Phil Jackson.
Byron Scott did not have a chance to coach this team. With kobe issue he was a scapegoat. For the incompetent of the front office. No other coach would have done better.
Goodluck Byron a true laker who did it because he lived the Lakers
Even our front office was disfunction. |
I disagree - Scott took a team full of rookies and an aging superstar, yes, difficult situation, but instead of getting the best out of them and showing improvement he:
Trashed his promising rookies to the press, focusing on what they did wrong and ignoring positive developments,
Actually took DLO to task and benched him for 'trying to take over a game' when he was on a scoring spree,
Stuck blindly to these ridiculous rotations and robo-sub strategies, where he ignored the flow of the game entirely, often taking players out when they were on a hot streak,
Played veteran players out of position with ridiculous experiments, such as Kelly at the 3, or matching Bass against legit 7 footers while ignoring guys like Black almost entirely,
Failed to provide any semblance of a modern offense, relying instead on a ponderous setup, predictable movement if any movement at all, and iso set after iso set,
Gave his veterans free reign to ignore the rules he set up for the rookies on both ends of the court,
Provided a constant stream all season of snarky comments to the press, directed of course at his younger players,
Showed indifference publicly to vets like Williams playing no defense whatsoever,
NEVER took responsibility for the performance of the team, there was always a player or group of players to throw blame at,
and most of all, he took a team with a poor winning record to start the season, and produced a DECLINE in winning percentage as the season concluded.
THAT'S NOT GOOD COACHING!!! NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Stop defending this clown. He's outta here for good reason.
After Scott, any coach who can improve on the above would seem like welcome relief to a lot of LG posters, and I happen to think quite a few coaches can do a much better job of steering clear of most if not all of these deficiencies. I don't think it takes an outstanding gem of a coach to do so, I'd think any NBA quality coach can cover these bases far better than Byron Scott did. |
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70sdude
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| mde24 wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | | The people on this forum, IMO, have not been very reasonable with the coaching situation. Blame is being placed in the wrong people because we are losing a lot. Plus we are tanking, and have been for a while. So coaches are getting blamed, legends are being blamed, etc. We're just not used to losing like this because it's never happened for this organization. |
Spot on. Laker Fans will not be happy with any new coach, They will find fault until the Lakers start winning again. I do fear that fans have made so many ridiculous cases for our losing, it might be hard to let go of criticizing the organization.
#PissAndMoanForever. |
I'm a Laker fan and I was prepared for a rebuild at the close of 2011 season. I knew it would be bumpy. However, my disgruntlement with the past three seasons reflects a failed rebuild. This is four consecutive worsening seasons, culminating in the two all-time worst franchise seasons under Byron Scott. Unhappiness with that is a measured, reasonable, thoughtful perspective.
I'm fully prepared to see the next new coach struggle compared to the glory years, but there simply must be progress shown over the span of two or three years. The lack of improvement over the last three seasons is wholly unacceptable, not just with most Laker fans, but with fans of any club. |
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a2j1m
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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | | The people on this forum, IMO, have not been very reasonable with the coaching situation. Blame is being placed in the wrong people because we are losing a lot. Plus we are tanking, and have been for a while. So coaches are getting blamed, legends are being blamed, etc. We're just not used to losing like this because it's never happened for this organization. |
Yeah I don't think people realize that Scott actually made it to the NBA finals as a coach |
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LoyalLakerfan44
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Would the fans would be happy with any coach.? |
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| samnizam wrote: | I don't think the fan will ever happy with any coach but Phil Jackson.
Byron Scott did not have a chance to coach this team. With kobe issue he was a scapegoat. For the incompetent of the front office. No other coach would have done better.
Goodluck Byron a true laker who did it because he lived the Lakers
Even our front office was disfunction. |
Everything you say is true, Byron was just used like a dirty rag to keep Kobe happy for a couple of seasons. They never put a team together that could give him a chance, and they knew Kobe was done. Anyone can coach the Warriors, or Cleveland etc. Coaching is important but it's not the reason you win. You win with superstars, the nba is a superstar league coaching is nothing but a psychologist job for altered ego's.
The rookies we drafted are meh mediocre at least. I have hopes for Randle, Nance and Clarkson. DLO way overrated in this forum, if we can trade him for Butler I would do it in a heart beat. This is not Dr. Buss's team anymore I've lost respect for the organization. The only thing that would make me happy is if Jimbo would get FIRED! |
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| a2j1m wrote: | | SuperboyReformed wrote: | | The people on this forum, IMO, have not been very reasonable with the coaching situation. Blame is being placed in the wrong people because we are losing a lot. Plus we are tanking, and have been for a while. So coaches are getting blamed, legends are being blamed, etc. We're just not used to losing like this because it's never happened for this organization. |
Yeah I don't think people realize that Scott actually made it to the NBA finals as a coach |
I think we do realize it. However, I have my eyes open. His last six teams haven't even reached .400 at season's end. That's been with three different franchises. I'd offer that the game has passed Byron Scott by in any number of ways as a head coach, except to the extent he can be counted on to deliver lottery picks. If that's the goal of the organization, B-Scott is The Man. It's a standard that anyone can meet.
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