Do you honestly feel the Front Office will finally get the right coach?
Yes - Confident that 4th time will be the charm
60%
[ 63 ]
No - Afraid the Front Office will mess this up again
39%
[ 41 ]
Total Votes : 104
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deal Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 14904 Location: Earth
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:31 am Post subject:
Coaching focus does not seem to be a strength for the FO. There are to many story tells out there.
Right now the Lakers are pretty much bare bones with some rookie talent, so there is lots to do.
I've read the lakers would look for a "recruiter coach". I'm not against getting a recruiter but not as a coach. They should get that level of talent into the front office and get a coach to coach. If the Lakers keep confusing their bench needs they will continue to drift from one coach to another... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team !
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7922 Location: Lake Forest
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:00 am Post subject:
deal wrote:
Coaching focus does not seem to be a strength for the FO. There are to many story tells out there.
Right now the Lakers are pretty much bare bones with some rookie talent, so there is lots to do.
I've read the lakers would look for a "recruiter coach". I'm not against getting a recruiter but not as a coach. They should get that level of talent into the front office and get a coach to coach. If the Lakers keep confusing their bench needs they will continue to drift from one coach to another...
The best coaches are always personality managers backed up by strong X & O assistants. That's a recruiter coach.
They've made quite a few wrong choices for head coaches. But luckily enough for us, it's all worked out for us. We didn't get any passed their peak but max money free agents to sign with us. We've done really well in the draft. Kobe for the send off and the scoring records he deserves.
I have confidence that they have learned from their mistakes and they are willing to find a coach who would do well in the current NBA.
I'm not completely sold on Luke though, mostly because no one really knows what his philosophies are, but he's the hottest name out there right now, so you would think there is a legitimate reason for that. I would say a plus for him is he's high on phil's list, but so was Derek Fisher, and we know how that worked out.
They're going to get Luke. I have no idea how successful he will be, BUT he is the right choice at this moment in time. He checks many if not all the boxes for the team we "know" we have.
They've made quite a few wrong choices for head coaches. But luckily enough for us, it's all worked out for us. We didn't get any passed their peak but max money free agents to sign with us. We've done really well in the draft. Kobe for the send off and the scoring records he deserves.
I have confidence that they have learned from their mistakes and they are willing to find a coach who would do well in the current NBA.
I'm not completely sold on Luke though, mostly because no one really knows what his philosophies are, but he's the hottest name out there right now, so you would think there is a legitimate reason for that. I would say a plus for him is he's high on phil's list, but so was Derek Fisher, and we know how that worked out.
So was Kerr and we know how that worked out _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 2415 Location: Far from home
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:32 am Post subject:
Well, the poll disguises two hiring issues that need a little separation.
Today, the Lakers need to hire a coach to improve this team a lot, in terms of getting its next couple near term rosters to play well enough to make it into the playoffs and maybe win a series. That will make the joint at least a little bit attractive to top free agents. Call this stage the The Real Rebuild. Doing a hire that yields that result in two years would be a success for the front office.
Above and beyond that, the Lakers need to eventually find a coach capable of mounting a series of deep playoff charges with a championship caliber roster. This is not the type of hire required of the front office this month, though of course no one would whine if it were to develop that way. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21075 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:55 am Post subject:
Somewhat confident, because the names on the interview list, particularly the ones pundits claim are at the top of their list, are very sensible candidates.
Still I'm just somewhat confident. I think they're talking to the right candidates. It all hinges on whether the new coach can pull in good assistant coaches, successfully implement the systems used by GSW/SA, and have an ability to adapt to players strengths/weaknesses in the process. And of course manage personalities and put forward a convincing free agent pitch. Quite a list to consider when conducting an interview imo.
^ What he said. Particularly the first sentence. _________________ "I don’t give a [expletive] what you say. If I go out there and miss game winners, and people say, 'Kobe choked, or Kobe is seven for whatever in pressure situations.' Well, [expletive] you. Because I don’t play for your [expletive] approval."
Had a nightmare that Luke Walton asked the Lakers to give him until this weekend to decide, but before that day even came, Lakers announced that they hired Jeff Hornacek!
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144461 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject:
The only bad hire was Byron. Brown brought some good things, MDA as well despite the players acting like 6-year olds with him. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Had a nightmare that Luke Walton asked the Lakers to give him until this weekend to decide, but before that day even came, Lakers announced that they hired Jeff Hornacek!
Horny is good coach. He ran a two headed guard lineup (think DLO and JC) in Pheonix before the FO screwed the pooch royally. He seriously over achieved given the roster. I wouldn't be mad if we hired Hornacek, although he isn't my first or second choice. _________________ "I don’t give a [expletive] what you say. If I go out there and miss game winners, and people say, 'Kobe choked, or Kobe is seven for whatever in pressure situations.' Well, [expletive] you. Because I don’t play for your [expletive] approval."
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 29282 Location: La La Land
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:03 pm Post subject:
22 wrote:
The Lakers last 3 coaching hires have been like my dating life. Pretty much a disaster but hopefully a setup for something great.
I voted Yes
We are gonna hire Derek Fisher and you are gonna die alone!
JK of course. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
MDA wasn't that bad, and we did play well in that second half of the season until Kobe did his Achilles.
I absolutely loathed Mike Brown though.
Byron in all honesty, was tanking intentionally as per directive from upstairs. If we secure another top three pick in May lottery he's done his dues to Laker Nation.
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36081 Location: 502 Bad Gateway
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject:
MDA was a good hire. The teams he inherited were overrated, injured and just sucked. Not giving him an extra year on his contract, or ever investing in a stretch 4 for his offense (too cheap to even pay Shawne Williams for a full season) was the mistake.
MDA was a good hire. The teams he inherited were overrated, injured and just sucked. Not giving him an extra year on his contract, or ever investing in a stretch 4 for his offense (too cheap to even pay Shawne Williams for a full season) was the mistake.
MDA was not a bad hire in a vacuum, people keep thinking it was a disaster because everyone thought Phil was coming back. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime."
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144461 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject:
giordan0 wrote:
MDA wasn't that bad, and we did play well in that second half of the season until Kobe did his Achilles.
I absolutely loathed Mike Brown though.
Byron in all honesty, was tanking intentionally as per directive from upstairs. If we secure another top three pick in May lottery he's done his dues to Laker Nation.
Tanking when you have a coin flip's chance of keeping your pick isn't a good idea. That wasn't the goal this season, Byron is just that bad. This team should have won 8-9 more games. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36081 Location: 502 Bad Gateway
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject:
venturalakersfan wrote:
giordan0 wrote:
MDA wasn't that bad, and we did play well in that second half of the season until Kobe did his Achilles.
I absolutely loathed Mike Brown though.
Byron in all honesty, was tanking intentionally as per directive from upstairs. If we secure another top three pick in May lottery he's done his dues to Laker Nation.
Tanking when you have a coin flip's chance of keeping your pick isn't a good idea. That wasn't the goal this season, Byron is just that bad. This team should have won 8-9 more games.
There was no tank, at least not on his end. This was confirmed by him not meeting the win incentives in his contract.
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