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3 and D.....Solomon Hill, dont F around throwing max money at Batum/Barnes
Stronger starting SG needed.....Bazemore or Lance Stephenson maybe
Sign Whiteside
resign Clarkson
Draft Simmons/Ingram
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iimarshon
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I don't see Whiteside. He doesn't fit the kind of big Luke will want and I think Miami resigns him anyways.
Horford will be their number one but will be tough to lure.
Other good fits would be Joakim Noah or Tyson Chandler.
Or Zeller / Biyombo (not as good of a fit) or Mahimi (not as good of a fit)
Ezeli fits too but will get overpaid IMO
I see them signing two wings and then getting Chandler or Noah
DEROZAN seems likely.
And then Batum or Parsons or Bazemore or two mid tiers like Ariza (absorb), Solomon Hill, Courtney Lee, Afflalo, Dudley, Rush.
SPEIGHTS would be a nice backup center.
GS will match Barnes
AND DURANT IS NOT COMING. Makes no aense
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| iimarshon wrote: | I don't see Whiteside. He doesn't fit the kind of big Luke will want and I think Miami resigns him anyways.
Horford will be their number one but will be tough to lure.
Other good fits would be Joakim Noah or Tyson Chandler.
Or Zeller / Biyombo (not as good of a fit) or Mahimi (not as good of a fit)
Ezeli fits too but will get overpaid IMO
I see them signing two wings and then getting Chandler or Noah
DEROZAN seems likely.
And then Batum or Parsons or Bazemore or two mid tiers like Ariza (absorb), Solomon Hill, Courtney Lee, Afflalo, Dudley, Rush.
SPEIGHTS would be a nice backup center.
GS will match Barnes
AND DURANT IS NOT COMING. Makes no aense |
The nice thing about signing Luke is the Lakers get an insider if Ezeli or Barnes is worth it. Because the fact is if they offer those two Gobs of money GS likely doesn't match as it would handicap them down the road. But luke can tell the Lakers the real projection on those guys in his mind.
Personally I'd love both of them... Especially Barnes. Actually outside durant if Barnes wasn't a RFA (and obviously I'm ignoring Lebronze here) - Barnes would be my 2nd choice of a FA signing.
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iimarshon
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I just can't see any way GS doesn't match even a max for Barnes
Iggy and Bogut are gone after next season
They can afford it
Ezeli I think is gone
But I think to a team like Portland that overpays
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| Not a fan of whiteside either. 80 year old Al Jefferson was able to abuse him in the post possession after possession. There's a huge difference between putting up big defensive stats than actually being a good defender and I think whiteside is the former. Also it was reported he has attitude problem toward coaching staff, huge red flag |
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"I think"
- one of our rookies (probably Randle or JC) could end up in a trade to get a ready now player.
- we will shot for KD, probably not get him
- go for Derozan & Whiteside (or another rim defender)
DLO
DeRozan
Trade target or Rookie - Ingram
Nance
Whiteside
With whoever is left between JC & Randle, Black, Lou and fillers
This is just my Opinion today of something realistic.
Lets see what really happens...
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This is such a weird question.. because a lot of people are just going to say the people they've been lobbying for all off-season lol.
I am curious to see what happens though. It's good to have a vision in mind BEFORE the draft and free agency. |
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iimarshon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Whiteside isn't a Luke player
Doesn't pass or set screens
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| a2j1m wrote: | | gng930 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | a2j1m wrote: | I'd go,
Trade pick 3 (if we land there) and Young to the Wolves for Dieng, Shabzz, pick 5, and future 1st since we don't have one next year. I can see them wanting Bender and wanting to jump the Celtics and Suns to get him. I'd sell the pick very high, Dieng and Shbazz are RFA next year, Bazz is good as gone so he's just a throw in, Dieng is the real value coming back and a protected top 15-20 pick.
Sign Harrison Barnes and Ryan Anderson
And since we have 10-15m in cap depending, maybe we can keep Clarkson and work a 3 way deal like this on draft day
Lakers get: Michael Kidd-Gilcrist, Gorgui Dieng, and Buddy Hield
Hornets get: Twolves future protected 1st and Shabazz Muhameed
Wolves get: Dragan Bender, Nick Young or Lou Williams , LA future 2nd, and CHA future 2nd
Draft Ulis at 32
Russell - Clarkson- Ulis
Hield - lou
Barnes - MKG - Brown
Randle - Anderson
Dieng - Bass - Black
Something like this fits the system |
That's a interesting roster, a combination of skill/defense and versatile players. |
So after a trade that's unrealistically skewed in the Laker's favor (#3 for #5, MKG, and Dieng) and dropping $50 million on the bench, we're still left with no clear-cut superstar. And we've managed to exhaust all cap-space to the point where we wouldn't have enough space to sign Westbrook the following summer. |
Havnt you ever thought that the FO believes in Russell and Randle to be that superstar down the line. Of course we want a superstar and very team does but it doesn't just happen because you want one. Most superstars grow from their draft. The Warriors looking at their team 4 years ago we'd never say they had a superstar but Curry grew to one and the system turned Thompson and Green into it.
You say 50m on the bench but the starting lineup is near 30m.. When the following season comes you can tweak and make changes to get cap, it's not hard. The question was what kinda of players would Luke want. Of course he wants Durant but what If Durant doesn't want to come here. I can easily put a roster together of
Russell
Derozan
Durant
Randle
Whiteside
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The team may still believe in those two becoming superstars but they aren't going to waste the most cap-space they've ever had on exclusively role players. You hope for the best but you don't close the door on signing a superstar.
In terms of what Luke would want, you provide no justification for your trade. What about MKG and Dieng appeals to someone like Luke? Neither have been known as shooters or play-makers. Randle is hopefully working on his shooting but spacing will probably be awful with him and Dieng on the court at the same time. Anderson is obviously an excellent stretch 4 but has he demonstrated an ability to operate within a high-motion offense? Bass' J took a dive this past season and Lou is a notorious ball-stopper.
And, as already stated, you have the #3 and Nick Young going out and getting the #5, MKG, Dieng. That's highway robbery of a blind man.
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iimarshon
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | Whiteside isn't a Luke player
Doesn't pass or set screens |
Which is why I say Horford, Noah or Chandler
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| Oliver Reed wrote: | | I am going to guess, and this is just a guess, that Chris Bosh is going to retire after the season. That money that is freed up will go to Whiteside. Riley and ownership will figure out a way to get Bosh the remaining money back in some executive role, in some way. Blood clot isn't a joke, I think Bosh needs to hang them up and I believe Riley being the manipulator he is to boot, he will convince of it. |
Yeah Bosh retiring would not surprise me. They may find another underlying cause but they're probably assuming his blood clots are related to frequent travel for now. That means as long as has to fly, he has to be on blood thinners. And as long as he's on blood thinners, I don't think anybody will clear him to play.
Tough luck.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | Whiteside isn't a Luke player
Doesn't pass or set screens |
Don't know what "a Luke player" will be until he has
his shot. He was coaching what there is...
This is not to say your wrong or right, simply that
he has not assembled a team yet. So, we'll see
what he feels can beat the GSW, not copy
them.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| iimarshon wrote: | Whiteside isn't a Luke player
Doesn't pass or set screens |
Whiteside also has a bit of knuckle head in him, maybe tough for a young first time coach to handle him, especially with Whiteside getting a big contract thus no incentive to be on his best behavior.
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Noel seems to fit the Luke type that, the management might try to get.
Noel is basically everything Luke would want in a big man. |
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| calistrtballr wrote: | 3 and D.....Solomon Hill, dont F around throwing max money at Batum/Barnes
Stronger starting SG needed.....Bazemore or Lance Stephenson maybe
Sign Whiteside
resign Clarkson
Draft Simmons/Ingram
Go after KD |
Is Hill unrestricted?
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:18 am Post subject: |
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I don't think our approach to free agency changes with Luke here, we just have someone who's actually capable of communicating with each free agent without telling them to "man up," or "come join my foxhole in Los Angeles."
Same players. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Horford works. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Ugh, Noel. No way. Keep that guy away from the Lakers, please. Horford or Whiteside. Noah is done. his injuries are enough for him to retire.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:40 am Post subject: |
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If Lakers can't get Horford (who'd be perfect) then I'd rather they just get Tyson Chandler who's contract isn't bad and he's a smart guy that would work.
Can then spend more money on wings.
I feel like DEROZAN is almost a lock.
So if we had DEROZAN and CHANDLER then maybe we look at BATUM or BAZEMORE plus maybe Courtney Lee / Solomon Hill / Brandon Rush.
If we got Noah then maybe we sign a younger guy to split time w him like Biyombo, Mozgov, Mahimi.
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Not sure who Luke will try to acquire, but there some current players that he will dump.
Nick Young - there's no room for clowns on a team that Luke coaches. Luke is going to bring in pros that respect the game.
Lou Williams - his form of me first iso ball will not work either here |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Or maybe you sign Noah but you sign Motiejunas too.
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| Plaza234 wrote: | Not sure who Luke will try to acquire, but there some current players that he will dump.
Nick Young - there's no room for clowns on a team that Luke coaches. Luke is going to bring in pros that respect the game.
Lou Williams - his form of me first iso ball will not work either here |
Swaggy is gone
Lou TBD I think..
If we get DEROZAN then Clarkson can be our 6th man and maybe Lou is traded to get someone who fills a need like Ariza or something
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I cant help but wonder if this years #1 and anyone else we have not named D'Lo or Randle, could net us Anthony Davis instead of butler. I have a bad feeling about Whiteside and Butler, and as much as I like DeRoz, it seems like we could strengthen the roster better with that $$.
We moved up to the 2nd pick last year, now have the odds in our favor this year, we've fired Byron, we hired Luke...the pipe dream is coming true, roll with me!!!
D'Lo
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Davis
Please please please let me get what I want...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Plaza234 wrote: | Not sure who Luke will try to acquire, but there some current players that he will dump.
Nick Young - there's no room for clowns on a team that Luke coaches. Luke is going to bring in pros that respect the game.
Lou Williams - his form of me first iso ball will not work either here |
I suspect that Luke will talk to young to see if he's gonna be apart of the team going forward. Young can still be that 16ppg 6th man. We just need to make sure he's good with playing with Dangelo. I don't see much of a need to keep Lou unless he becomes a good 3 pt shooter
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