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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: |
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lakeshowtacular wrote: | I cant help but wonder if this years #1 and anyone else we have not named D'Lo or Randle, could net us Anthony Davis instead of butler. I have a bad feeling about Whiteside and Butler, and as much as I like DeRoz, it seems like we could strengthen the roster better with that $$.
We moved up to the 2nd pick last year, now have the odds in our favor this year, we've fired Byron, we hired Luke...the pipe dream is coming true, roll with me!!!
D'Lo
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Davis
Please please please let me get what I want... |
His injures don't scare you? I'll pass _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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The key to Golden State's success other than their talent is the great depth they have.
So with that said, the Lakers will target the obvious in Durant, DeRozan, Batum, and Whiteside ....
The next group should be
- Assuming no Durant, then Harrison Barnes warrants consideration base on what Luke thinks.
Others to bring Golden State's scheme which I assume Luke will implement should be
- Mareese Speights for $5M
- Brandon Rush for $2-3M
- Leandro Barbosa for $2-3M
Big time shooters for the right price
- Mirza Teletovic
- Courtney Lee
Versatile front court players that could defend multiple spots
- Bismack Biyombo
- Luol Deng
- Matt Barnes _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: |
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lakeshowtacular wrote: | I cant help but wonder if this years #1 and anyone else we have not named D'Lo or Randle, could net us Anthony Davis instead of butler. I have a bad feeling about Whiteside and Butler, and as much as I like DeRoz, it seems like we could strengthen the roster better with that $$.
We moved up to the 2nd pick last year, now have the odds in our favor this year, we've fired Byron, we hired Luke...the pipe dream is coming true, roll with me!!!
D'Lo
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Davis
Please please please let me get what I want... |
Pelicans won't trade AD
And if they did they'd want 3 First Round Picks, DLo AND Randle
And they'd still prob say no _________________ 24 |
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bluehill Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:11 am Post subject: |
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One of the things I am expecting is that Luke, Mitch and Ryan will work closely together to find players that may be overlooked but will work well in the system that he wants to run.
If they can get some of these types of players we will be competitive, which will attract bigger name free agents and allow us to pass on players that may be too costly in terms of picks and/or are injury prone or have character issues. We can be more selective and that will give us more leverage. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I think Luke prefers Batum over Derozan. And Ingram over Simmons.
Multiple, long defenders who can guard multiple positions (like GS has).
Thing is, Batum & Ingram might be overkill. Might need at least 1 elite player at dribble penetration (like Derozan and Simmons are). _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | I think Luke prefers Batum over Derozan. And Ingram over Simmons.
Multiple, long defenders who can guard multiple positions (like GS has).
Thing is, Batum & Ingram might be overkill. Might need at least 1 elite player at dribble penetration (like Derozan and Simmons are). |
Randle , just gotta teach him to kick |
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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: |
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bluehill wrote: | One of the things I am expecting is that Luke, Mitch and Ryan will work closely together to find players that may be overlooked but will work well in the system that he wants to run.
If they can get some of these types of players we will be competitive, which will attract bigger name free agents and allow us to pass on players that may be too costly in terms of picks and/or are injury prone or have character issues. We can be more selective and that will give us more leverage. |
Great perspective!!
Remember when the Laker Brand itself was leverage. Whether it's the CBA, cap-hell, loss of Dr. Buss, the veto-ed CP3 trade, Kobe demanding a trade, Shaq doing the same...it feels like forever since we have had leverage in any bball situation. With that in mind, I hope we offer D12 the vet min, and he says no! _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:29 am Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | kikanga wrote: | I think Luke prefers Batum over Derozan. And Ingram over Simmons.
Multiple, long defenders who can guard multiple positions (like GS has).
Thing is, Batum & Ingram might be overkill. Might need at least 1 elite player at dribble penetration (like Derozan and Simmons are). |
Randle , just gotta teach him to kick |
Ya. We'll see how Randle and Clarkson progress in terms of quick reads in the half court off the dribble. I still think they are a ways away from being consistent in that department. But I'm hoping for the best! _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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kikanga wrote: | I think Luke prefers Batum over Derozan. And Ingram over Simmons.
Multiple, long defenders who can guard multiple positions (like GS has).
Thing is, Batum & Ingram might be overkill. Might need at least 1 elite player at dribble penetration (like Derozan and Simmons are). |
Russell's not good enough at it? Clarkon is probably better at it than Klay already. |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
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lewis Star Player
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I do like a player like Batum/Parsons over Derozan, just that both are really injury prone. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Horford is heading for the wrong side of 30, injury is a
skip - hop away. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Out of that group you only have Horford who is a real consistent shooter. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | Not sure who Luke will try to acquire, but there some current players that he will dump.
Nick Young - there's no room for clowns on a team that Luke coaches. Luke is going to bring in pros that respect the game.
Lou Williams - his form of me first iso ball will not work either here |
I suspect that Luke will talk to young to see if he's gonna be apart of the team going forward. Young can still be that 16ppg 6th man. We just need to make sure he's good with playing with Dangelo. I don't see much of a need to keep Lou unless he becomes a good 3 pt shooter | Young and Lou got to go. But how do we go a out getting rid of them? |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Out of that group you only have Horford who is a real consistent shooter. |
Nance will be the second. You can live with only one player that cannot shoot as long as he sets good screens or/and can move the ball. |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Horford is heading for the wrong side of 30, injury is a
skip - hop away. |
He actually is at his peak this season. He would still be very good for at least 2 years. Whiteside is a bigger risk, and Horford would make others better ( Nance/Randle). Playing Whiteside with Randle will be ugly and almost impossible. |
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Out of that group you only have Horford who is a real consistent shooter. |
Nance will be the second. You can live with only one player that cannot shoot as long as he sets good screens or/and can move the ball. |
Uhhhh.... I count 3 ... Randle, Nance, and Biyombo _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | lewis wrote: | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Out of that group you only have Horford who is a real consistent shooter. |
Nance will be the second. You can live with only one player that cannot shoot as long as he sets good screens or/and can move the ball. |
Uhhhh.... I count 3 ... Randle, Nance, and Biyombo |
Nance will shoot better. I don't expect us to play Randle and Byiombo too much, hence only one non shooter at a time will be on the floor. |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | lakeshowtacular wrote: | I cant help but wonder if this years #1 and anyone else we have not named D'Lo or Randle, could net us Anthony Davis instead of butler. I have a bad feeling about Whiteside and Butler, and as much as I like DeRoz, it seems like we could strengthen the roster better with that $$.
We moved up to the 2nd pick last year, now have the odds in our favor this year, we've fired Byron, we hired Luke...the pipe dream is coming true, roll with me!!!
D'Lo
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Davis
Please please please let me get what I want... |
His injures don't scare you? I'll pass |
My god this board is delusional. You would pass on #2 + not {DLO/JC/Randle} for Anthony (bleep) Davis?
Incidentally that's what New Orleans does after you give them that offer. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Horford is heading for the wrong side of 30, injury is a
skip - hop away. |
He actually is at his peak this season. He would still be very good for at least 2 years. Whiteside is a bigger risk, and Horford would make others better ( Nance/Randle). Playing Whiteside with Randle will be ugly and almost impossible. |
You can't sign Horford for 2 years though. I'm not saying don't but
Paying guys for what did could backfire. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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lewis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Horford is heading for the wrong side of 30, injury is a
skip - hop away. |
He actually is at his peak this season. He would still be very good for at least 2 years. Whiteside is a bigger risk, and Horford would make others better ( Nance/Randle). Playing Whiteside with Randle will be ugly and almost impossible. |
You can't sign Horford for 2 years though. I'm not saying don't but
Paying guys for what did could backfire. |
Since we lack talent, we have to overpay. I prefer to do that with Horford and pay him 25 when he is 33 and 34 instead of 12 -15 instead of giving 20 to Whiteside, so he can pull a Larry Sanders. |
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | Car54 wrote: | lakeshowtacular wrote: | I cant help but wonder if this years #1 and anyone else we have not named D'Lo or Randle, could net us Anthony Davis instead of butler. I have a bad feeling about Whiteside and Butler, and as much as I like DeRoz, it seems like we could strengthen the roster better with that $$.
We moved up to the 2nd pick last year, now have the odds in our favor this year, we've fired Byron, we hired Luke...the pipe dream is coming true, roll with me!!!
D'Lo
Clarkson
Durant
Randle
Davis
Please please please let me get what I want... |
His injures don't scare you? I'll pass |
My god this board is delusional. You would pass on #2 + not {DLO/JC/Randle} for Anthony (bleep) Davis?
Incidentally that's what New Orleans does after you give them that offer. |
Yep it seems some are happy with 17 win seasons. But we should pass on Durant too, his foot might act up in the future. And pass on Batum because he had an ankle injury in the playoffs. And don't get me started on that stiff that is Steph Curry. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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lewis wrote: | deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | deal wrote: | lewis wrote: | Whiteside is definitly not a guy that can play in a sytem similar to what gsw does. At least not more than 25 minutes. He would play the Ezeli role. I want us to get Horford and Byombo upfront. A rotation of randle/ nance and horford/ Byombo would be awesome |
Horford is heading for the wrong side of 30, injury is a
skip - hop away. |
He actually is at his peak this season. He would still be very good for at least 2 years. Whiteside is a bigger risk, and Horford would make others better ( Nance/Randle). Playing Whiteside with Randle will be ugly and almost impossible. |
You can't sign Horford for 2 years though. I'm not saying don't but
Paying guys for what did could backfire. |
Since we lack talent, we have to overpay. I prefer to do that with Horford and pay him 25 when he is 33 and 34 instead of 12 -15 instead of giving 20 to Whiteside, so he can pull a Larry Sanders. |
Sorry, maybe I missed why Whiteside would pull a Sanders? Where does that come from?
Just curious, as I may have missed it, wth the excitement over the Luke hiring. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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Fruscas Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ezeli, Barnes and Speights are all restricted free agents i think. so, he'll ask for those |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Fruscas wrote: | Ezeli, Barnes and Speights are all restricted free agents i think. so, he'll ask for those |
Sounds like we want to hire the GSW's. Hopefully Luke can
think through how to beat the Warriors, not become their
B-Team. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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