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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:38 am Post subject: |
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rancar wrote: | Derozan and Butler would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. |
No matter what happens we are gonna have a lot of options to get someone. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:32 am Post subject: |
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rancar wrote: | Derozan and Butler would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. |
Butler didn't respond well to Hoiberg trying to modernize the offense. I kind of wonder if DD, after a fat contact, would have a similar reaction to a new coach trying to curb his isos. |
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hdtvset Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I like Whiteside! |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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For all the stats he puts up Whiteside still can't defend the pick and roll effectively. |
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | rancar wrote: | Derozan and Butler would be great, but I'm not holding my breath. |
Butler didn't respond well to Hoiberg trying to modernize the offense. I kind of wonder if DD, after a fat contact, would have a similar reaction to a new coach trying to curb his isos. |
A valid point.
Players don't typically change their play styles 8 years into the league. |
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LoyalLakerfan44 Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | For all the stats he puts up Whiteside still can't defend the pick and roll effectively. |
I agree, Whiteside is just a smoke screen, who the Lakers really want is Cousins whether you like it or not. They will trade their pick to the Queens in a heartbeat along with either Clarkson, DLO or Randle for Cousins. |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | For all the stats he puts up Whiteside still can't defend the pick and roll effectively. |
I agree, Whiteside is just a smoke screen, who the Lakers really want is Cousins whether you like it or not. They will trade their pick to the Queens in a heartbeat along with either Clarkson, DLO or Randle for Cousins. |
Clarkson doesn't have not accept any trade nor would he.
Also don't think the Lakers want to trade D'LO but I do agree Cousins is the main target.
Id' love to see Cousins in an offense like GS runs. He can grab a board and push, has point range, can pass a little bit, and can play PnR a bit.
Assuming we get the pick, Pick + Randle + 32 + Future First + Lou is probably what it takes. I'd be fine with that. Love Randle the person but business is business. |
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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hdtvset wrote: | I like Whiteside! |
I dont get why the Raptors didn't put him in more pick and roll situations. |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:32 am Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | For all the stats he puts up Whiteside still can't defend the pick and roll effectively. |
I agree, Whiteside is just a smoke screen, who the Lakers really want is Cousins whether you like it or not. They will trade their pick to the Queens in a heartbeat along with either Clarkson, DLO or Randle for Cousins. |
Clarkson doesn't have not accept any trade nor would he.
Also don't think the Lakers want to trade D'LO but I do agree Cousins is the main target.
Id' love to see Cousins in an offense like GS runs. He can grab a board and push, has point range, can pass a little bit, and can play PnR a bit.
Assuming we get the pick, Pick + Randle + 32 + Future First + Lou is probably what it takes. I'd be fine with that. Love Randle the person but business is business. |
I think you're on the right track. I don't think the Lakers would trade both the pick and D'Angelo for Cousins. Last summer, Sac-town apparently wanted our #2 pick and JC and Randle. That was one premium asset and 2 decent ones. A top 2 pick would certainly be considered a premium asset, as would Russell, and now you would only get Cousins for 2 seasons instead of 3. It's just too much to give up. But one of the pick/Russell, plus Randle and the #32 and Lou feels right. And the salaries would come close to matching, meaning we'd still have $60MM or so in space. |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:51 am Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | For all the stats he puts up Whiteside still can't defend the pick and roll effectively. |
I agree, Whiteside is just a smoke screen, who the Lakers really want is Cousins whether you like it or not. They will trade their pick to the Queens in a heartbeat along with either Clarkson, DLO or Randle for Cousins. |
Clarkson doesn't have not accept any trade nor would he.
Also don't think the Lakers want to trade D'LO but I do agree Cousins is the main target.
Id' love to see Cousins in an offense like GS runs. He can grab a board and push, has point range, can pass a little bit, and can play PnR a bit.
Assuming we get the pick, Pick + Randle + 32 + Future First + Lou is probably what it takes. I'd be fine with that. Love Randle the person but business is business. | Isn't that TOO Much for a Headcase? |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Whoever Mitch and Luke target, an early signing will help build the right kind of momentum. Doesn't have to be a star and given the amount of cap room they can make moves without waiting on 'the' guy. Now that we have a clearer vision just make sure it's someone who supports that. Could be a trade too. |
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watchME Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 3:36 am Post subject: |
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give luke the keys and let him spend 60 millions on FA. not like mitch or jim have done better |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:13 am Post subject: |
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I don't think we trade for cousins, not with a first years head coach.
That's just too much of an extra headache for like to deal with |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:16 am Post subject: |
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D'Angelo Russell + 1st pick + Anthony Brown + Lou Williams for DMC _________________ Kobe |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | D'Angelo Russell + 1st pick + Anthony Brown + Lou Williams for DMC |
Not sure if trolling. |
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Four Decade Bandwagon Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Still do not see a Cousins trade happening. He is a locker room headcase that refuses to be coached. Why would Walton want such a selfish player as the cornerstone of his team? Makes no sense to me. Cousins does not play a style I assume Walton will be teaching.
Have not read the entire thread but I would not be surprised at all to see Walton poach a couple of Warriors to help develop his systems. A couple of guys he trusts.
For example: go after RFAs Barnes and Ezeli. Maybe Speights or Livingston. |
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Andre2K Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:36 am Post subject: |
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I'd like if we go after Barnes, Bazemore, Ryan Anderson and Whiteside obviously. Those players would fit Luke's system seamlessly _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Pg Lonzo
Sg Kawhi
Sf Ingram
Pf Lebron
C Dedmon
Bench: Caruso, Hart, Bullock, Kuzma, McGee etc |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Andre2K wrote: | I'd like if we go after Barnes, Bazemore, Ryan Anderson and Whiteside obviously. Those players would fit Luke's system seamlessly |
Atlanta did 99% of the work with Bazemore. |
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Andre2K Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Mindripper2000 wrote: | Andre2K wrote: | I'd like if we go after Barnes, Bazemore, Ryan Anderson and Whiteside obviously. Those players would fit Luke's system seamlessly |
Atlanta did 99% of the work with Bazemore. |
If he decides to stay in ATL, we can switch our focus to Fournier _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Pg Lonzo
Sg Kawhi
Sf Ingram
Pf Lebron
C Dedmon
Bench: Caruso, Hart, Bullock, Kuzma, McGee etc |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Perimeter players that fit in Walton's ball movement system.
1. Parsons
2. Batum
3. Bazemore |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:00 am Post subject: |
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On day 1 offer Barnes a contract. Force gsw to react. Sign an athletic big. Hope for pick 1 or2 |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | Still do not see a Cousins trade happening. He is a locker room headcase that refuses to be coached. Why would Walton want such a selfish player as the cornerstone of his team? Makes no sense to me. Cousins does not play a style I assume Walton will be teaching.
Have not read the entire thread but I would not be surprised at all to see Walton poach a couple of Warriors to help develop his systems. A couple of guys he trusts.
For example: go after RFAs Barnes and Ezeli. Maybe Speights or Livingston. |
why would kings trade cousins after the fired their coach to appease him? |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Trade pick, Lou and Young for Butler, sign KD, Ezeli and Matt Barnes, resign Bass and Clarkson:
Ezeli, Bass, Black,
Randle, Nance
KD, Barnes, Brown
Butler, Clarkson
Russell, Huertas, #32 |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | On day 1 offer Barnes a contract. Force gsw to react. Sign an athletic big. Hope for pick 1 or2 |
Unfortunately it doesn't really work that way. The team that has the RFA player doesn't have to react until a few days after the moratorium ends _________________ Kobe |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Luke needs to bring Barnes down the 5 FWY with him this summer. Make it happen! Then sign Derozen and Hortford
Hortford
Randle
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Derozen
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