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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:42 am Post subject: Kobe files trademark for "Black Mamba" nickname |
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/15/kobe-bryant-files-trademark-for-black-mamba-nickname/
Quote: | Kobe Bryant files trademark for “Black Mamba” nickname
Kobe Bryant has been using the “Black Mamba” nickname for years, but he’s never actually trademarked it. Until now, that is. Earlier this month, Bryant’s Kobe Inc. company officially filed paperwork to trademark it.
From ESPN.com’s Darren Rovell:
Kobe Inc., the business arm of recently retired Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, has filed to trademark his familiar nickname “Black Mamba.”
The company filed for the trademark May 2, a record with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office shows, with intent to use the nickname on everything from athletic apparel to sneakers.
Neither Bryant, nor Nike, who pays him to endorse its shoes and has used the nickname in marketing, ever has trademarked the term.
Now that Bryant is retired, he’s expanding his business interests. It makes sense for him to have his most iconic nickname trademarked to help him monetize it in every way imaginable. |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Surprised Kobe hadn't done that already. |
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Legacy Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe trademarks to much. |
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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe nicknames too much!
Business man like he was a basketball superstar...he's gonna make billions $$$ _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
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Legacy wrote: | Kobe trademarks to much. |
damn your good Legacy... and fast!!! I love LG _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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so if someone writes an article about kobe and uses the term "black mamba" or "mamba" is that affected? |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | so if someone writes an article about kobe and uses the term "black mamba" or "mamba" is that affected? |
Nope. You'd be ok doing that. |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe a rogue scholar _________________ Kobe |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | so if someone writes an article about kobe and uses the term "black mamba" or "mamba" is that affected? |
Nope. Only if it's used for commercial purposes -- like advertising copy or a T-shirt. Assuming the trademark is awarded.
As a sidenote, Pat Riley owns the trademark to "threepeat." |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well deserved. |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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If I had trademarked Black Mamba last year, how much money do you think Kobe would have paid me? |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | so if someone writes an article about kobe and uses the term "black mamba" or "mamba" is that affected? |
fair use fam |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: |
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this pic is really good. |
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loseyourname Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm kind of surprised he's even able to, given it was Beatrix Kiddo's code name in Kill Bill before he even started using it. I'm surprised Quentin Tarantino doesn't already have it trademarked. |
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Plaza234 Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Can you really trademark an animal name though? |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Does this mean scalabrine trademarking the white mamba? How about Goudelock? Lol |
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Plaza234 Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:47 am Post subject: |
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If I wanted to put a picture of a Black Mamba on a T Shirt, with the caption "Don't take your chances.....with a BLACK MAMBA"...i couldn't do that? |
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Plaza234 wrote: | If I wanted to put a picture of a Black Mamba on a T Shirt, with the caption "Don't take your chances.....with a BLACK MAMBA"...i couldn't do that? |
You can but kobe getting a slice of the pie |
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doughboy90650 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | Can you really trademark an animal name though? |
That's the question. Maybe when it comes to athletes using it. I know BLACK MAMBA was used by Roger Mayweather while he was it in the ring. Still one of the best characters in boxing. Healthy deteriorating rapidly.
When asked about his ring nickname, Roger stated:
"It’s funny because I wanted a boxing nick-name that wouldn’t be common to most people. One day when I was flipping through channels and I came upon this channel showing different reptiles, and they were showing the black mamba, one of the most deadly snakes in the world. I loved the way the mamba attacked so quietly, but when he hit you he just hit you one time and the poison was in you. That reminded me of myself right there." |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | If I wanted to put a picture of a Black Mamba on a T Shirt, with the caption "Don't take your chances.....with a BLACK MAMBA"...i couldn't do that? |
You probably could, since that would be a different context than how Kobe uses the term. However, if the picture of the Black Mamba was holding a basketball, that might be considered an infringement.
As this suggests, trademarks can get very complicated. If Kobe were able to trademark Black Mamba it would probably only be applied to situations where the phrase was clearly linked to him; he couldn't, for example, get zoos to stop using the phrase to identify the animals. |
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Quik Z06 Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Ehh, filing a patent trademark is iffy at best. I've been in the aftermarket automotive parts business for years, and other manufacturers copy parts all day long and it never holds up in court.
Look at Michael Jordan trying to sue that company in china and didn't win. It can go either way really. I know most don't hold up over various loopholes in the system. |
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | If I wanted to put a picture of a Black Mamba on a T Shirt, with the caption "Don't take your chances.....with a BLACK MAMBA"...i couldn't do that? |
You probably could, since that would be a different context than how Kobe uses the term. However, if the picture of the Black Mamba was holding a basketball, that might be considered an infringement.
As this suggests, trademarks can get very complicated. If Kobe were able to trademark Black Mamba it would probably only be applied to situations where the phrase was clearly linked to him; he couldn't, for example, get zoos to stop using the phrase to identify the animals. |
That's a funny thought!!! Kobe strolling through zoos, everybody is chanting M-V-P, he rolls up on the Mamba cage to find his name, he just juts out his jaw and stares down the zookeeper (then sues him for $20mil)!! _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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A Mad Chinaman Star Player
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Kobe files trademark for "Black Mamba" nickname |
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Basketball Fan wrote: | http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/15/kobe-bryant-files-trademark-for-black-mamba-nickname/
Quote: | Kobe Bryant files trademark for “Black Mamba” nickname
Kobe Bryant has been using the “Black Mamba” nickname for years, but he’s never actually trademarked it. Until now, that is. Earlier this month, Bryant’s Kobe Inc. company officially filed paperwork to trademark it.
From ESPN.com’s Darren Rovell:
Kobe Inc., the business arm of recently retired Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, has filed to trademark his familiar nickname “Black Mamba.”
The company filed for the trademark May 2, a record with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office shows, with intent to use the nickname on everything from athletic apparel to sneakers.
Neither Bryant, nor Nike, who pays him to endorse its shoes and has used the nickname in marketing, ever has trademarked the term.
Now that Bryant is retired, he’s expanding his business interests. It makes sense for him to have his most iconic nickname trademarked to help him monetize it in every way imaginable. |
| Surprised this wasn't done a long ago.
Wondering what Black Mamba translate into Chinese means and/or interpreted, given his work and popularity in China. Hint: Black Mamba in Chinese characters are 黑曼巴
http://usasians-articles2.tripod.com/kobe-bryant.html |
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