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City_Dawg Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:22 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
But the lakers arent overrated _________________ *sighs*
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Gatekeeper Star Player
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pmacla Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: |
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which team gets paid to promote Viagra ?? lol but the worst team in the league is getting paid $5 mil a year by Stub Hub Lakers arent passing up a potential $15-20 mil a year to have a company logo on their jersey |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:26 am Post subject: |
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City_Dawg wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
But the lakers arent overrated |
Having grown up in LA and now being out East for over a decade, there is nothing I crave more than a sweet delicious patty, with never frozen fries and fresh toppings. In n' Out. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:45 am Post subject: |
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It was just announced that the sixers signed a three year deal with stub hub, so it is completely up to the teams individually. Maybe the league will institute league-wide patches but I doubt it. I think it would make a strong statement about the Lakers for them not to put patches on their jerseys. The Sixers, a joke of a franchise, jumped on this first and it's no coincidence. I imagine the Clippers will soon be festooned with ridiculous advertising as well. I think this is a great marketing opportunity and a way to set the team apart from the rest of the league. Make it really mean something to be on that jersey. |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:49 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | City_Dawg wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
But the lakers arent overrated |
Having grown up in LA and now being out East for over a decade, there is nothing I crave more than a sweet delicious patty, with never frozen fries and fresh toppings. In n' Out. |
Looks like the advertisements have already started taking over LG _________________ Kobe |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Lakers were pretty early in the advertising on the court, so I'll assume same will be true here. Fan Duel was on the court for all the non national games I think. They were also early to advertise under the basket and under the jumbotron. Unfortunately a reality of today's league. Players keep getting paid more, tv deals are larger and costs for the fans increase in these various ways. |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: A plea to the Laker Re: Jersey Patches |
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D's Advocate wrote: | Please don't give in and put advertising on the jersey's. The Lakers name is the one only worthy of being on there. Let the other lesser franchises whore themselves out to the highest bidder. It would put the Lakers above the other franchises like they are, a visual representation of why they're a set above. There are the legendary Lakers vs walking billboards for Buffalo Wild Wings. It should mean something special to have your name on that shirt. Just because it's available doesn't mean you should use it. Just like we won't be like the Clippers and bring some stupid mascot to run around, we shouldn't give in and put advertising on the jerseys.
How great would it be to see the Lakers as the only holdout to the way things were before? No StubHub, no DraftKings, no Coca-Cola... just Los Angeles Lakers. I think it would be worth the loss of advertising revenue in prestige alone.
Only Lakers on the Lakers jersey. Keep the Lakers pure. |
Plea to the Lakers?!
Might as well have made a plea to my dog.
It's up to neither the Lakers nor my dog.
Personally, I don't care if they do advertising. People throw up their arms all the time but seem to have no issues saying "Staples Center". |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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If you will walk away from $100,000 on the floor, I'm sure the Lakers will walk away from easily $12-15m/year in additional revenue. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Agent P Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm hoping for Hooters! Jk, it would be nice to see the Lakers decline, but it's highly doubtful. _________________ Reigning 2015 Lakers Ground Yahoo fantasy football league champion. See ya next year, suckas! |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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My personal favorites are Fly Emirates and Bimbo Bread. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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So how much for the Lakers to have an "LG" patch?
I'm sure Larry Coon will chip in. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | So how much for the Lakers to have an "LG" patch?
I'm sure Larry Coon will chip in. |
just have the phone company do it... then Lakersground take the credit |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's a great idea. Not because I want to see jersey patches, because I don't, but the most global sport is soccer and if the NBA is going global, why not join in too? It's something soccer fans recognize as being "the norm", and if it brings in extra revenue for the teams and players, then so be it. |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: A plea to the Laker Re: Jersey Patches |
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ringfinger wrote: | D's Advocate wrote: | Please don't give in and put advertising on the jersey's. The Lakers name is the one only worthy of being on there. Let the other lesser franchises whore themselves out to the highest bidder. It would put the Lakers above the other franchises like they are, a visual representation of why they're a set above. There are the legendary Lakers vs walking billboards for Buffalo Wild Wings. It should mean something special to have your name on that shirt. Just because it's available doesn't mean you should use it. Just like we won't be like the Clippers and bring some stupid mascot to run around, we shouldn't give in and put advertising on the jerseys.
How great would it be to see the Lakers as the only holdout to the way things were before? No StubHub, no DraftKings, no Coca-Cola... just Los Angeles Lakers. I think it would be worth the loss of advertising revenue in prestige alone.
Only Lakers on the Lakers jersey. Keep the Lakers pure. |
Plea to the Lakers?!
Might as well have made a plea to my dog.
It's up to neither the Lakers nor my dog.
Personally, I don't care if they do advertising. People throw up their arms all the time but seem to have no issues saying "Staples Center". |
How is it not up to the Lakers? I'm not suggesting they get all the other teams to not do the advertising, just for the team to decline doing it on Laker jerseys. Read it all over again and see if you understand better.
Staples Center is a good example. The really iconic arenas go with iconic names, like Madison Square Garden or Mile High Stadium. We've kind of lost that now that every stadium is sponsored and that sponsorship ends up changing over and over again. That's how you get terrible stuff like Sleep train Arena or Powerband Hoedown Palace or whatever the Kings arena was called. I'm suggesting that they choose not to do it and put the Lakers brand first, strengthening it and putting it ahead of the rest of the league. Of all the teams the Laker name and jersey is worth the most and they can afford to put the Lakers first ahead of Jersey Mike's or whoever else they may sell out to. |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Considering the Busses have to rank near the bottom of the league in personal wealth among ownership, I doubt they scoff at that kind of money.
Also hard to imagine In n Out, which is only in a handful of states (and hardly a mystery to the state housing the bulk of their locations), pays up for a logo.
It would most likely be something with national, if not worldwide access. Something like Huawei.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | If you will walk away from $100,000 on the floor, I'm sure the Lakers will walk away from easily $12-15m/year in additional revenue. |
It's not for nothing though. Not having advertising on the Jersey is an advertisement for the Lakers as a brand and a franchise.
I don't know if they still do this but companies were paying off people's cars if you agreed to do an advertising wrap on it. Not even permanent, just a vinyl wrap on your car advertising condom depot or some random business like that. You should look into it since you seem ok with doing stuff like this as long as you're getting paid for it.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/auto/make-money-by-simply-driving-your-car-1.aspx
Free car payments! You don't even have a brand to devalue so what's the negative? |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
Roscoe's! _________________ Everything. Changes. |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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I understand your point D's Advocate, but I think there is also a point at which it can be done without causing brand erosion.
Consider, that the world's most valuable sports team in 2015 was Real Madrid. Their shirts have a huge "Fly Emirates" logo on it.
I think, done right, it can be a good thing for the Lakers, particularly their bottom line. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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D's Advocate wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | If you will walk away from $100,000 on the floor, I'm sure the Lakers will walk away from easily $12-15m/year in additional revenue. |
It's not for nothing though. Not having advertising on the Jersey is an advertisement for the Lakers as a brand and a franchise.
I don't know if they still do this but companies were paying off people's cars if you agreed to do an advertising wrap on it. Not even permanent, just a vinyl wrap on your car advertising condom depot or some random business like that. You should look into it since you seem ok with doing stuff like this as long as you're getting paid for it.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/auto/make-money-by-simply-driving-your-car-1.aspx
Free car payments! You don't even have a brand to devalue so what's the negative? |
I think the Lakers brand is strong enough that they don't have consider not pocketing 15-20m a year to promote their brand. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | I understand your point D's Advocate, but I think there is also a point at which it can be done without causing brand erosion.
Consider, that the world's most valuable sports team in 2015 was Real Madrid. Their shirts have a huge "Fly Emirates" logo on it.
I think, done right, it can be a good thing for the Lakers, particularly their bottom line. |
I don't doubt it would make them more money to sell the space, and if they do it I'd hope they'd do it right and not sell to something stupid. I'm just hoping they consider this opportunity to stand out from the rest of the league. Because really the Lakers are the premier franchise in this league and one of the premier brands in all of sports. Maybe I'm wrong here and they should follow the lead of the Sixers and sell out as fast as humanly possibly. Maybe they should get a mascot too since most teams have them to drum up excitement during games. |
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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City_Dawg wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
But the lakers arent overrated | I agree, but whenever I'm in SoCal, still hit it up at some point. It's almost mandatory. FYI, the one by LAX is a (bleep) gong show. _________________ Music is my medicine
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Also, to quote Dylan, "The Times They Are a-Changin'." Why be left behind, when this is a clear way to make money and not at the consumer's expense. When Elvis, rock music, rap music, Marilyn Manson, first came out people were outraged. Now teens are doing stuff on social media that would make all those people blush. Things change and times change. A small patch on a jersey that creates revenue for the league that I love watching, who cares? Good for them.
But here's another point. The patches will also generate money for the players. It might even prevent a future lockout. Tell me how that isn't awesome? Believe it or not, our top stars are grossly underpaid. Due to small market owners being greedy, there is a salary cap preventing players from making more money than what some of them are worth. With how much Lebron brings to the city of Cleveland and the NBA, he is worth way more than 21 m a year. Until last season he has never been the highest paid player on any of his teams.
Now let's pretend you are a team who refuses patches and you're trying to convince a big time free agent to sign with you. What if that free agent sees the bigger picture and wonders why you refuse to put extra money into the pockets of his peers? I'm sure most wouldn't worry about that, but players like Chris Paul or Lebron might.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Vancouver Fan wrote: | City_Dawg wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | In N'Out baby..... |
But the lakers arent overrated | I agree, but whenever I'm in SoCal, still hit it up at some point. It's almost mandatory. FYI, the one by LAX is a (bleep) gong show. |
Yeah, without a doubt, my first meal off the plane is In n Out. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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