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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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hydrohead wrote: |
One more tank!!!
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Josh Jackson and Ben Simmons are to similar, we need to move one of them... _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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rwongega Franchise Player
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 20510 Location: UCLA -> NY
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Lol, I saw this thread title first when I logged on and thought it meant we lost our pick and Larry was going over our future options. Then I saw the actual results. Hell yes! |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Let's make that Philly pick as crappy as possible. |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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The legend, Larry. Thanks! _________________ Music is my medicine |
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SweetP Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 6054 Location: My own little piece of reality
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | Let's make that Philly pick as crappy as possible. |
_________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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Yong Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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ONE MORE TANK!!!
TATUM TATUM TATUM!!!
Whiteside
Randle
Ingram
Tatum/Clarkson
Russell
LETS DO THIS! |
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LakerDynasty6.0 Star Player
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 4656
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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$screw tanking... I'm looking for a Larry (O'Brien) next year, and in the coming years.. Lets go, Free Agency! _________________ Starting Lakers Dynasty6.0! NOW!!
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....." each year in Lakerland is marked by four seasons: Kobe’s Mad at His Teammates; Kobe’s Shooting Too Much; Kobe Leads the Victory Parade; Kobe Receives His Championship Ring." |
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lakeshowtacular Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | $screw tanking... I'm looking for a Larry (O'Brien) next year, and in the coming years.. Lets go, Free Agency! |
Thats what i'm talking about!!!
Luke replicates his winning percentage at the beginning of the year in GS and we go 78-4 BOOK IT!!! _________________ Magic*Kobe*LBJ*AD*Cap |
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LAkers 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | Let's make that Philly pick as crappy as possible. |
No need. They do a good job of doing that themselves. |
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evetssteve10 Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | Unfortunately if the Lakers happen to be in the lottery next year it means that they suck. I'm hoping this tanking crap goes away however a lot will have to do with what happens this summer with the draft and free agency. |
Well seeing how young this team is, chances are they will be back in the lottery unless something radical happens in free agency over the summer. We have lots of young players with no veteran superstars or all stars on the roster. |
Yeah that's what I'm saying this summer is critical as far as bringing in some real talent and start getting out of this quick sand. A lot of people here are living a dream thinking a bunch of young players will make a difference in the standing. There's going to be a lot of disappointed folks that don't understand what talent is all about. That's why Mitch is going to be hitting those phone calls for possible trades. |
I don't think anyone thinks the #2 pick makes us a contemder but it's a good start. And it will make free agents more inclined to Come here _________________ "Bryant has been the second best player in the NBA for over a decade, but the number 1 player changes every other year. Somehow the number 1 player always seems to fall down the list but Kobe just never moves up. ". The Art of Hating Kobe Bryant |
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Legacy Star Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 7054 Location: So. Californ-I-A
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you kindly good sir. Great breakdown. Short and to the point. |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I would rather make the playoffs next year and render lottery day completely moot for us, even if it eliminates any chance that we keep the 2017 (and therefore an extra 1st round pick). It's also scary that our 2019 is completely unprotected. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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Arbitrary Star Player
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 5788
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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No more tanking, please. I want us to be at least an 8th seed for the playoffs. |
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wsjan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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With Simmons or Ingram + veteran FA, it's highly unlikely we'll land the top 3 picks next year. |
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nickuku Star Player
Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 7844 Location: Orange County
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I hope we're just out of the playoffs next year and still get a top 3 pick. _________________ Don't let perfect be the enemy of good |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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gng930 wrote: | I would rather make the playoffs next year and render lottery day completely moot for us, even if it eliminates any chance that we keep the 2017 (and therefore an extra 1st round pick). It's also scary that our 2019 is completely unprotected. | Nothing scary about losing an unprotected #30 in 2019 |
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Chronicle Retired Number
Joined: 21 Jul 2012 Posts: 31935 Location: Manhattan
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Larry but please no more lottery ever
ONLY DOMINANCE
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:33 am Post subject: |
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hydrohead wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | hydrohead wrote: |
One more tank!!!
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I'm actually very serious about that! play all the youngins and let them learn, sub in garbage players to keep the wins down. You cant get enough talent to compete against the elite teams now. |
Maybe the best case is show strong improvement in the competitive west and just miss the playoff and then get super lucky. |
Unless we get Durant this summer--which is now even more unlikely than it already was IMO--I think I agree with this. We aren't winning a chip next year without Durant, so the best-case scenario might be looking really competitive (say, around .500), just missing the playoffs, being at the back-end of the lottery, but getting super lucky and keeping the pick. That gives us another premium asset AND means that the picks we convey to Orlando become 2nd-rounders. I'm willing to sacrifice a low-end playoff spot next season (which would be the best-case scenario without Durant IMO) for that outcome. |
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tom Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 1:03 am Post subject: |
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no more tanking. 3 years was enough. time to get back to wining. |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | $screw tanking... I'm looking for a Larry (O'Brien) next year, and in the coming years.. Lets go, Free Agency! |
not happening next year no way. The absolute best case realistic scenario for next year is that we are first round playoff fodder. I rather lose out again and get a top 3 pick in 2017 than be a so-so team with still no chance at winning it all. |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Well maybe the Sixers want Lou Williams and will send us back a first rounder:) _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | gng930 wrote: | I would rather make the playoffs next year and render lottery day completely moot for us, even if it eliminates any chance that we keep the 2017 (and therefore an extra 1st round pick). It's also scary that our 2019 is completely unprotected. | Nothing scary about losing an unprotected #30 in 2019 |
or getting top 3 with a 0.1% chance next summer |
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cthroatgtr Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought it was important to keep this pick as the Lakers will get better over the next two years regardless. |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | $screw tanking... I'm looking for a Larry (O'Brien) next year, and in the coming years.. Lets go, Free Agency! |
not happening next year no way. The absolute best case realistic scenario for next year is that we are first round playoff fodder. I rather lose out again and get a top 3 pick in 2017 than be a so-so team with still no chance at winning it all. |
If the team gets a top 3 pick next year that's almost a worst case scenario (worse would be losing the pick obviously). It means the team made no progress and is no closer to a title than it is today. It can also mean that Ingram is a bust or underperformed or got injured, could mean the other young guys made little progress or even took a step back, could mean injuries killed the team, could mean Walton can't coach, etc. No thanks.
I'd rather see a so-so team. In fact it's not even close. Give me a 41-41 season over another top 3 pick. That would mean our team gets so much better that we almost couldn't recognize it. 41 wins also would improve the trade value of the players on the team. And once a team gets to 41 wins, the team is much closer to being able to achieve 50 win seasons and more. |
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