GOP doing good job in breeding hate and intolerance.
You know, I take their side and all, it's just not an issue that bothers me one iota, but that first picture looks like she's doing an SNL Pat pose. Pat Riley... I have to think SNL would like to get Julia Sweeney back just to do a bit on this STOOPID issue. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:54 pm Post subject:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
Are homophobic people insecure with their own sexuality?
"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves."
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I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:20 pm Post subject:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Well said.
That comment is right up there with "I'm not a racist, but . . ."
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:52 pm Post subject:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:11 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached?
Sure, yes, but who cares? I'm not attracted to men, so I politely declined. I've yet to be approached by a transgender person, but I'm sure that would be a different story as I'm attracted to females, not men. If she was attractive enough to me, who knows? I'm not judgmental. I'd totally date a transgender woman if we hit it off. She's female after all.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:40 pm Post subject:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
jodeke wrote:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached?
Sure, yes, but who cares? I'm not attracted to men, so I politely declined. I've yet to be approached by a transgender person, but I'm sure that would be a different story as I'm attracted to females, not men. If she was attractive enough to me, who knows? I'm not judgmental. I'd totally date a transgender woman if we hit it off. She's female after all.
I don't care either. Same as you I politely declined. I don't know how I'd react if I was approached by a transgender if I knew they were transgender.
To be honest I think I could be friends, I don't think I could be Intimate. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
There's a very clear line between tolerance and forcing acceptance upon others. You could argue that the latter are being intolerant. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:25 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
jodeke wrote:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached?
Sure, yes, but who cares? I'm not attracted to men, so I politely declined. I've yet to be approached by a transgender person, but I'm sure that would be a different story as I'm attracted to females, not men. If she was attractive enough to me, who knows? I'm not judgmental. I'd totally date a transgender woman if we hit it off. She's female after all.
I don't care either. Same as you I politely declined. I don't know how I'd react if I was approached by a transgender if I knew they were transgender.
To be honest I think I could be friends, I don't think I could be Intimate.
That's very different than saying you'd want no personal relationship at all.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:33 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
jodeke wrote:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached?
Sure, yes, but who cares? I'm not attracted to men, so I politely declined. I've yet to be approached by a transgender person, but I'm sure that would be a different story as I'm attracted to females, not men. If she was attractive enough to me, who knows? I'm not judgmental. I'd totally date a transgender woman if we hit it off. She's female after all.
I don't care either. Same as you I politely declined. I don't know how I'd react if I was approached by a transgender if I knew they were transgender.
To be honest I think I could be friends, I don't think I could be Intimate.
That's very different than saying you'd want no personal relationship at all.
Personal is different. My original intentions weren't very clear. I meant intimate. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject:
gng930 wrote:
There's a very clear line between tolerance and forcing acceptance upon others. You could argue that the latter are being intolerant.
There's nothing about bathroom policies that is "forcing acceptance" on anyone.
It's not about forcing acceptance. It's about providing equality. Transgender bathroom policies don't force acceptance anymore than saying black people shouldn't be barred from sharing restrooms with white people did a half century ago.
There's a very clear line between tolerance and forcing acceptance upon others. You could argue that the latter are being intolerant.
There's nothing about bathroom policies that is "forcing acceptance" on anyone.
It's not about forcing acceptance. It's about providing equality. Transgender bathroom policies don't force acceptance anymore than saying black people shouldn't be barred from sharing restrooms with white people did a half century ago.
Sorry, I was trying to avoid a quote train. This was in reference to the exchange that was occurring above my post. I don't think people should be criticized for being uncomfortable about having an intimate relationship with a transgender person.
As jodeke said, he/she would tolerate, even befriend, a transgender person. I thought it was wrong for DuncanIdaho to consider someone judgmental for not wanting to be in an intimate relationship with a transgender person. To me, that is also intolerance.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:47 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
jodeke wrote:
vanexelent wrote:
jodeke wrote:
I have no doubt I've used a restroom, spoke to, ate at a lunch counter, swam, interacted with a transgender and didn't know he/she was transgender. As long as there are no attempts for a personal relationship I accept who they are.
On your part or their's?
Their's. I've been approached by homosexuals. I politely declined the invitation.
Have you ever been approached?
Sure, yes, but who cares? I'm not attracted to men, so I politely declined. I've yet to be approached by a transgender person, but I'm sure that would be a different story as I'm attracted to females, not men. If she was attractive enough to me, who knows? I'm not judgmental. I'd totally date a transgender woman if we hit it off. She's female after all.
I don't care either. Same as you I politely declined. I don't know how I'd react if I was approached by a transgender if I knew they were transgender.
To be honest I think I could be friends, I don't think I could be Intimate.
That's very different than saying you'd want no personal relationship at all.
Personal is different. My original intentions weren't very clear. I meant intimate.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:52 pm Post subject:
gng930 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
gng930 wrote:
There's a very clear line between tolerance and forcing acceptance upon others. You could argue that the latter are being intolerant.
There's nothing about bathroom policies that is "forcing acceptance" on anyone.
It's not about forcing acceptance. It's about providing equality. Transgender bathroom policies don't force acceptance anymore than saying black people shouldn't be barred from sharing restrooms with white people did a half century ago.
Sorry, I was trying to avoid a quote train. This was in reference to the exchange that was occurring above my post. I don't think people should be criticized for being uncomfortable about having an intimate relationship with a transgender person.
As jodeke said, he/she would tolerate, even befriend, a transgender person. I thought it was wrong for DuncanIdaho to consider someone judgmental for not wanting to be in an intimate relationship with a transgender person. To me, that is also intolerance.
Ah! OK.
I don't think DI's point was that straight people were bigoted for not wanting to consider entering an intimate relationship with a gay or transgender person. I think he was reacting to what I also perceived as an unwillingness to have any kind of interpersonal relationship at all.
I'd love for someone to give me (bleep) about being in the women's room, so I can have the privilege of laughing right in their moronic face. Believe me, I'll enjoy myself.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
I'd love for someone to give me (bleep) about being in the women's room, so I can have the privilege of laughing right in their moronic face. Believe me, I'll enjoy myself.
WOW! That post begs to query. Are you transgender? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
I'd love for someone to give me (bleep) about being in the women's room, so I can have the privilege of laughing right in their moronic face. Believe me, I'll enjoy myself.
WOW! That post begs to query. Are you transgender?
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:04 pm Post subject:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
I'd love for someone to give me (bleep) about being in the women's room, so I can have the privilege of laughing right in their moronic face. Believe me, I'll enjoy myself.
WOW! That post begs to query. Are you transgender?
Yes
Thanks. Gives me a new level of respect for your posts on the subject. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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