Guys like Smart, Winslow, & Johnson are poor shooters because of their footwork, their hand mechanics, and their release, not their hair. Guys like Winslow & Johnson had the same hair cut in college when they had higher percentages.
this is my point though, they're not able to adjust their trajectories/releases for the longer line. they're restricted
their outward releases and low trajectories can't be being done willingly, they are straight up incompetent. everyone knows not to shoot like that
They shouldn't be adjusting their trajectories/releases for the longer line. They should be getting extra distance on their shots with their legs. Most players don't change their release point when they get to the NBA.
so they should finish their stroke out like that? no way.
IMO, part of Winslow's problem is that he heads the ball, and he'd stand to benefit from shooting in front of his head. He also shoots just after he gets to the top of his jumper. His release is late.
I think Johnson's release is too low. He needs to raise it and can do so without heading the ball.
Guys like Smart, Winslow, & Johnson are poor shooters because of their footwork, their hand mechanics, and their release, not their hair. Guys like Winslow & Johnson had the same hair cut in college when they had higher percentages.
this is my point though, they're not able to adjust their trajectories/releases for the longer line. they're restricted
their outward releases and low trajectories can't be being done willingly, they are straight up incompetent. everyone knows not to shoot like that
They shouldn't be adjusting their trajectories/releases for the longer line. They should be getting extra distance on their shots with their legs. Most players don't change their release point when they get to the NBA.
so they should finish their stroke out like that? no way.
IMO, part of Winslow's problem is that he heads the ball, and he'd stand to benefit from shooting in front of his head. He also shoots just after he gets to the top of his jumper. His release is late.
I think Johnson's release is too low. He needs to raise it and can do so without heading the ball.
I definitely don't endorse cockcing the ball back too much. A fixed point is useful for a lot of guys
i mentioned the long back of the head stroke as a tool for 7footers , but that's because they're so long and it tends to work out that way for them
edit: oh you were talking about Winslow at first. Winslow's problem is that he heads the ball, that's the whole discussion here - he has to start his shot pocket 5 inches above his head
I have video of him shooting from the front of his head, and its flat because he can't go up and over
That stat the Findishoc would post still sticks with me - Dlo shot like 42% from NBA 3point range in college - with the short hair.
And also, you said he was shooting over the fro in Summer league and that was why he was short, but then shot in front of his face in the season and missed short less.
Well in summer league, his hair was still a couple inches higher than college when he shot 42% from NBA range. And in the first month of the season when he was missing woefully short, his hair was it's longest - hell if it's too long its too long - and it was for most of the season, and he missed frustratingly short for most of the season.
That stat the Findishoc would post still sticks with me - Dlo shot like 42% from NBA 3point range in college - with the short hair.
And also, you said he was shooting over the fro in Summer league and that was why he was short, but then shot in front of his face in the season and missed short less.
Well in summer league, his hair was still a couple inches higher than college when he shot 42% from NBA range. And in the first month of the season when he was missing woefully short, his hair was it's longest - hell if it's too long its too long - and it was for most of the season, and he missed frustratingly short for most of the season.
I'm not saying that's why he missed short over the summer. I'm saying he he had not problem shooting over it then.
I'm gonna chart Russell's misses over the next couple of days. Left, Right, Long, Short. Jumpers only.
That stat the Findishoc would post still sticks with me - Dlo shot like 42% from NBA 3point range in college - with the short hair.
And also, you said he was shooting over the fro in Summer league and that was why he was short, but then shot in front of his face in the season and missed short less.
Well in summer league, his hair was still a couple inches higher than college when he shot 42% from NBA range. And in the first month of the season when he was missing woefully short, his hair was it's longest - hell if it's too long its too long - and it was for most of the season, and he missed frustratingly short for most of the season.
I'm not saying that's why he missed short over the summer. I'm saying he he had not problem shooting over it then.
I'm gonna chart Russell's misses over the next couple of days. Left, Right, Long, Short. Jumpers only.
Then I gotta take vids of all of his trajectories, bcuz it's all kind of short . Short-right short-left
Bahahah
so here I mount this evidence, in conjunction with Feindishoc's stat that he shot 7% better on NBA 3s in college, with less hair and more range of motion, and less weightroom strength tew.
and at 2:42+ in that vid, if you slow it down on youtube to .25 speed (the knob where you change HD quality), you can maybe see that he does shoot over his lower hair cut there, and the trajectory is good.
another pretty much NBA 3, corner distance. the trajectory looks better than his 3s last year. it's blurry but his stroke also looks different, comes out smoother
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so here I mount this evidence, in conjunction with Feindishoc's stat that he shot 7% better on NBA 3s in college, with less hair and more range of motion, and less weightroom strength tew.
We have a fundamental disagreement of what "shooting it over his head" is that's going to be a hard gap to bridge.
The ball is in front of his head here, not on top of it. I suppose it may brush up against a follicle or two, but it wouldn't matter it his hair was 3 feet high.
so here I mount this evidence, in conjunction with Feindishoc's stat that he shot 7% better on NBA 3s in college, with less hair and more range of motion, and less weightroom strength tew.
We have a fundamental disagreement of what "shooting it over his head" is that's going to be a hard gap to bridge.
The ball is in front of his head here, not on top of it. I suppose it may brush up against a follicle or two, but it wouldn't matter it his hair was 3 feet high.
Wait hold up, you don't think that, the ball is in an area of the head that if there was hair there he wouldn't be able to get to? annotated here
?
THAT IS AS OVER THE HEAD AS IT NEEDS TO BE
so here I mount this evidence, in conjunction with Feindishoc's stat that he shot 7% better on NBA 3s in college, with less hair and more range of motion, and less weightroom strength tew.
We have a fundamental disagreement of what "shooting it over his head" is that's going to be a hard gap to bridge.
The ball is in front of his head here, not on top of it. I suppose it may brush up against a follicle or two, but it wouldn't matter it his hair was 3 feet high.
Wait hold up, you don't think that, the ball is in an area of the head that if there was hair there he wouldn't be able to get to? annotated here
?
THAT IS AS OVER THE HEAD AS IT NEEDS TO BE
No, I don't. Look at the angle of the red line vs. the angle of his hair. lol
so here I mount this evidence, in conjunction with Feindishoc's stat that he shot 7% better on NBA 3s in college, with less hair and more range of motion, and less weightroom strength tew.
We have a fundamental disagreement of what "shooting it over his head" is that's going to be a hard gap to bridge.
The ball is in front of his head here, not on top of it. I suppose it may brush up against a follicle or two, but it wouldn't matter it his hair was 3 feet high.
Wait hold up, you don't think that, the ball is in an area of the head that if there was hair there he wouldn't be able to get to? annotated here
?
THAT IS AS OVER THE HEAD AS IT NEEDS TO BE
No, I don't. Look at the angle of the red line vs. the angle of his hair. lol
the whole half of the ball is past the line. and the red line isn't that inaccurate of how the hair would grow, at all really
https://twitter.com/BlowByTraining/status/738211883597996032 stop playin' with me GT! c'mon you're not arguing that
Hair doesn't grow straight up like that, man. Look at Booker's hair. Like I said, that might touch a couple of hairs, but he's not (and shouldn't be) bringing it back enough for it to matter.
C"mon, bro...do you really think that for all of these years, shooting coaches have been teaching shooting form, and big hair got in the way of proper technique, but they never said anything or no one's ever noticed?
C"mon, bro...do you really think that for all of these years, shooting coaches have been teaching shooting form, and big hair got in the way of proper technique, but they never said anything or no one's ever noticed?
maybe some did, but it's obvious that most aren't. the proof is in the trajectories
http://www.trbimg.com/img-56312848/turbine/la-sp-ln-d-angelo-russell-will-start-lakers-op-001/650/650x366
hair grows, up man. every level. Bookers was a specific cut, Russ gets that cut sometimes but every part of it grows still, just a little front to back ratio going on
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The other part of it, that he took half of his threes from that range is a bit suspect though, so treat it with caution.
I'm skeptical on the volume, but the accuracy is plausible. And a hair-free explanation on how making the jump from college into the NBA as a 19 year old guard with middling athleticism going into a Byron Scott offense would be the reason behind dropping from 42% to 35.1% on NBA length 3's is a lot more likely of an explanation.
The other part of it, that he took half of his threes from that range is a bit suspect though, so treat it with caution.
I'm skeptical on the volume, but the accuracy is plausible. And a hair-free explanation on how making the jump from college into the NBA as a 19 year old guard with middling athleticism going into a Byron Scott offense would be the reason behind dropping from 42% to 35.1% on NBA length 3's is a lot more likely of an explanation.
na. a big part of range comes from range of motion in the upper body
C"mon, bro...do you really think that for all of these years, shooting coaches have been teaching shooting form, and big hair got in the way of proper technique, but they never said anything or no one's ever noticed?
His hair is going to grow "up" relative to the curvature of his head. (lol that this is where we are, btw) You gotta use product to get that Shumpert look going.
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