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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:33 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Quote: | Tim Bontemps: Draymond: “I can’t say we’re better than the Showtime Lakers.”
Klay: “We’re better than the Showtime Lakers.” Klay’s dad was one of them. 2 hours ago – via Twitter TimBontemps
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Come on, Klay is just giving his dad a hard time. Why so serious Francis? Let them have some fun. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Great! Another reason for me to hate GS. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Klay's dad is agreeing with him on 710AM. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Of course, Mychal is a little biased, both ways. |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | Great! Another reason for me to hate GS. | It was in jest. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Vancouver Fan wrote: | kikanga wrote: | Great! Another reason for me to hate GS. | It was in jest. |
Klay Thompson is a (bleep) !
That was in jest too. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Smh some of y'all _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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Fracture Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Lmao no...Dude must of been high |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Twas a joke. |
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krisobe Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:14 am Post subject: |
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2001 Lakers would've beat em in 5 or 6.
Fisher
Kobe
Fox
Horace
Shaq
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4stargeneralbulldog Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | Gwyn wrote: | Nope. They're a good team, but those Lakers had two of the best of all time. |
Were they ? They had trouble with the celtics. 15-1 2001 Lakers would be a better of all time team imo? |
Those Celtics teams of the 80s would give any team of any era a run for their money. Bird and those Celtics were no pushovers. |
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ReaListik Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Glad OP mentioned it - Klay was joking following up a Draymond statement that he doesn't get into the whole "who's better" speculation because there's no way of knowing. _________________ "We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:30 am Post subject: |
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The Logo wrote: | Twas a joke. |
He's a joke.
Sorry I take Laker (bleep) talking personally _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:36 am Post subject: |
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4stargeneralbulldog wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | Gwyn wrote: | Nope. They're a good team, but those Lakers had two of the best of all time. |
Were they ? They had trouble with the celtics. 15-1 2001 Lakers would be a better of all time team imo? |
Those Celtics teams of the 80s would give any team of any era a run for their money. Bird and those Celtics were no pushovers. |
Pre-expansion era in the 1980's saw some of the best teams in the NBA. Most were in the East, so the Lakers typically had an easy route to the Finals. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:41 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | The Logo wrote: | Twas a joke. |
He's a joke.
Sorry I take Laker (bleep) talking personally |
Lol his father was actually a Laker. It's safe to assume he has a healthy respect for Showtime. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: |
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KBH wrote: | kikanga wrote: | The Logo wrote: | Twas a joke. |
He's a joke.
Sorry I take Laker (bleep) talking personally |
Lol his father was actually a Laker. It's safe to assume he has a healthy respect for Showtime. |
I hope his dad takes away his allowance for a month...and makes him shave that pornstar goatee he's rocking. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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kcxiv Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:48 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | All_Star_Laker wrote: | Mychal Thompson should smack Klay upside the head |
Or cut his allowance. | He's probably made more then his dad has in his lifetime already.
You never know who would win old or new rules. It's fun to talk about i guess, but he has every right to feel the way he does after winning 73 games in a season and they are about to win the title. THey are about to do something no team has EVER done. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:00 am Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | I think under the current rules and officiating that these Warriors would probably beat the Showtime Lakers.
The 3 point shooting leaguewide is way beyond what it ever was then, the skill of the players in this era as far as shooting 3's is truly amazing. |
You're confusing skill with opportunity. NBA players haven't improved in their ability to make 3-pointers -- they simply take a lot more than they use to. The league shot 35.9% in 94-95 and 35.4% in 2015-16 -- it's been pretty consistent over the last two decades. (Before then, 3-point shots were so rare that the percentages get skewed for a lot of reasons).
Showtime started in an era where players didn't take a lot of 3s. It simply wasn't the style of play. But the Lakers had lots of good long distance shoots. |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Shooting the same % while taking more shots is a testament to how improved the shooting has become from 3. |
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Startrout Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Why make this silly thread? It was clearly a joke, but the title is worded to get everyone worked up. I hate those kind of misrepresentations. If you want to start a debate thread about which team is better, fine, but don't use a title like that, because it is totally misleading and just plain wrong. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:26 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | Shooting the same % while taking more shots is a testament to how improved the shooting has become from 3. |
They're specialty rhythm shooters that should zone in with increased reps, so they're actually worse if they can't up the %.
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Vic5150 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:27 am Post subject: |
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LakerLogic wrote: | Shooting the same % while taking more shots is a testament to how improved the shooting has become from 3. |
That is mathematically true. The original comment was made in jest though so it doesn't matter at all. |
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MIMLaker Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Ah, the folly of youth...
Magic and Lebron may both be 6'9" initiators for their team, but Showtime played transition AND half-court about 2-3 gears faster than the Cavs. Why the Cavs are just walking the ball up-court and allowing GSW's underrated defense get set in half-court is beyond me.
In the 1985 and 87 and 88 years, Riles pushed hard to have Magic, Byron, Coop, and even Worthy take the ball and lead the break, even after made buckets. At a minimum, he wouldn't wait the full 10-seconds (as it was back then) before crossing mid-court, and would try to initiate by the 6 or 7 second mark when possible.
I also love how sportscasters were making a big deal over GSW having 7 players in double figures in Game 1 - especially knowing that the 87 Lakers had 7 guys AVERAGE in double figures that year.
OKC gave GSW all they could handle by attacking the basket -- whether in transition, for foul-generating drives in half-court, or for rebounds -- and by using their length to trap, aggressively switch, and force turnovers. Showtime did that even more.
And the 80s Lakers were arguably longer than this year's Thunder. Aside from Durant's 7'2" wingspan compared to Worthy and Ibaka compared to AC, you have longer guys at every other position - and I'll submit that prime Worthy was faster up and down and quicker laterally than Durant.
Modern defensive/ hand-checking rules? Goes to Showtime in a close 7 because while Curry and Klay can score even more than Isiah and Dumars used to, Worthy and Magic and Kareem would attack the basket all day and draw a lot more fouls than any other opponent they've faced.
Old-school, full-hand-check, no-zone rules? Lakers in 5. |
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mirak Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, of course he's joking. They're in their 2nd Finals, none of them are Magic, Kareem, etc. People need to chill. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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The Warriors are a very good team, and I think they could play with any of the great teams that I've seen in my 30+ years of watching the NBA.
However, the Warriors have never had to play against elite, HOF low post players. This is why I think they would be underdogs against the Showtime Lakers. I don't think they would be able to use their small lineup against Kareem (although a 1978 or 1988 Kareen would be a major liability in his perimeter defense). I think both Worthy and Magic would be nightmares in the post and would even get the better of excellent defenders like Draymond and Iggy. I think defensively the Showtime Lakers would be able to switch every screen. It would be a great series, but I'd pick the Lakers.
I also think the Warriors would have a difficult time with the 1999 Spurs (TD and the Admiral) and Shaq's Lakers because they would get killed inside.
I often wonder what would happen to the modern NBA if players like prime Shaq, Duncan and Hakeem were still around. |
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