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K28 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Florida - it's the other Texas. |
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tlim Star Player
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WTF? There's literally gobs of pools around. What were they thinking, putting in a soft, small, tasty treat for animals?
Sucks it was the kids instead of the parents, tbh. |
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Comment Removed by myself. I'm an idiot for trying to be funny when a family has lost a toddler. My apologies to anyone who read my stupid comment.
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GoldenChild Star Player
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I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenChild wrote: | I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
So do I. Disney claimed there was "No swimming" sign posted but the child was wading 1-2 feet from shore in 6 inches of water. If there was a risk from gators that beach area should have been off-limits.
Quote: | Jeff Williamson, a spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Office, said Wednesday morning the signs didn't specify why swimming was prohibited.
"All we know is that [Lane] was on the edge of the water," Williamson said. "My understanding is that he wasn't swimming." |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenChild wrote: | I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
Yep. It's sounds like they were just hanging out at the waters edge - a seemingly innocuous place. My guess is if there had been alligator signs, they might not have been there so close to the water.
At least they have now found the boys body under the water not far from where he was grabbed. One somewhat bright spot to a horrible tragedy, the boys body is "intact" so at least the parents don't have the extra trauma of a dismembered toddler. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenChild wrote: | I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
Agree. Gators hunt right at the shoreline, and they move really quick. It is unlikely that anyone could have rescued the kid once the gator attacked. But how the heck did Disney not foresee something like this? It's freaking Florida. We have occasional gator attacks in Houston, with five million people in the metropolitan area. Gators don't shy away from developed areas. The article quotes someone saying that gator attacks are "rare." "Rare" is not the same as "never." If I'm taking kids to a Disney park, I'm expecting "never." |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | GoldenChild wrote: | I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
Agree. Gators hunt right at the shoreline, and they move really quick. It is unlikely that anyone could have rescued the kid once the gator attacked. But how the heck did Disney not foresee something like this? It's freaking Florida. We have occasional gator attacks in Houston, with five million people in the metropolitan area. Gators don't shy away from developed areas. The article quotes someone saying that gator attacks are "rare." "Rare" is not the same as "never." If I'm taking kids to a Disney park, I'm expecting "never." |
I'm sure they'll get a decent sized settlement, but its pretty much impossible to secure an area that size unless they drain the lakes and turn it into a paved parking lot. Just not practical. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | GoldenChild wrote: | I see a lawsuit, I think the parents assumed because they were at DisneyWorld, it's supposed to be a rather safe place especially from deadly animal attacks. From what I read, didn't seem like the parents were neglecting the child but probably didn't anticipate an alligator to be jumping out from the water at Disney Land and they did try to save him so they saw the entire thing |
Agree. Gators hunt right at the shoreline, and they move really quick. It is unlikely that anyone could have rescued the kid once the gator attacked. But how the heck did Disney not foresee something like this? It's freaking Florida. We have occasional gator attacks in Houston, with five million people in the metropolitan area. Gators don't shy away from developed areas. The article quotes someone saying that gator attacks are "rare." "Rare" is not the same as "never." If I'm taking kids to a Disney park, I'm expecting "never." |
I'm sure they'll get a decent sized settlement, but its pretty much impossible to secure an area that size unless they drain the lakes and turn it into a paved parking lot. Just not practical. |
Agreed. But they opened themselves up by failing to have signage making the potential threat clear - as other nearby resorts do. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I just feel terrible for that family. They will have to live with that memory forever. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think im going to go home early today and give my son a giant hug without giving him any explanation to why I am doing it. I feel like complete $hit |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | why would a Disney hotel or any family hotel have a freaking alligator lagoon on its property. Nobody thought of the possibility of alligators getting out the water and attacking guests? |
They are native to Florida. Even if Disney didn't stock them, gators will find a body of water. |
Yep. They've been finding their way into swimming pools and golf course water hazards since forever. |
Quote: | “We’ve already taken four alligators and looked at four alligators and couldn’t find any evidence that they were involved,” |
Quote: | The boy was partly in the water at the edge of the lagoon with his mother, father and 4-year-old sister when the alligator pulled him away, the sheriff said. |
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Sounds like them gators all had good alibis. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Terrible, I have been right there and honestly this is pretty shocking to me even for Florida. But of course, I am a dumb tourist from CA not used to alligators. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | The article quotes someone saying that gator attacks are "rare." "Rare" is not the same as "never." If I'm taking kids to a Disney park, I'm expecting "never." |
Yes, this is completely right. I was right there with my son but during the day and I can tell you I was not expecting gators. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Surprised the outrage at the parents is not the same level at the gorilla incident. To me this is as close as equivalent when it comes to parenting lapse (horible ending for both) |
It sounds like the parents were right there with him. They were all standing together as a group. They weren't letting the kid wander., and they had no idea alligators were there. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | why would a Disney hotel or any family hotel have a freaking alligator lagoon on its property. Nobody thought of the possibility of alligators getting out the water and attacking guests? |
They are native to Florida. Even if Disney didn't stock them, gators will find a body of water. |
Yep. They've been finding their way into swimming pools and golf course water hazards since forever. |
Also on the top of my car's trunk once. Disney's a highly regulated area but Gators can sneak in any time because of the vast spaces and the fact that baby gators will easily get through any kind of netting. That's Florida for you. One piece of advice that I got in my med student information packet even warned me to avoid being near bodies of water for fear of gators and snakes. To the uninformed out of state/country tourist, they probably don't get that advice. _________________ http://media.giphy.com/media/zNyBPu5hEFpu/giphy.gif
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:33 am Post subject: |
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rwongega wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | why would a Disney hotel or any family hotel have a freaking alligator lagoon on its property. Nobody thought of the possibility of alligators getting out the water and attacking guests? |
They are native to Florida. Even if Disney didn't stock them, gators will find a body of water. |
Yep. They've been finding their way into swimming pools and golf course water hazards since forever. |
Also on the top of my car's trunk once. Disney's a highly regulated area but Gators can sneak in any time because of the vast spaces and the fact that baby gators will easily get through any kind of netting. That's Florida for you. One piece of advice that I got in my med student information packet even warned me to avoid being near bodies of water for fear of gators and snakes. To the uninformed out of state/country tourist, they probably don't get that advice. |
Yeah and if by chance they live near the ocean or a large body of water they may have been used to walking near the water without thinking twice of a gator coming to get you. Sad and tragic, I can't begin to imagine. _________________ "We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview |
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:02 am Post subject: |
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They showed the "lagoon" on the news last night. It looked like a beach area of the hotel, where visitors would layout. Not a place where they should fear alligator attacks. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | audioaxes wrote: | why would a Disney hotel or any family hotel have a freaking alligator lagoon on its property. Nobody thought of the possibility of alligators getting out the water and attacking guests? |
They are native to Florida. Even if Disney didn't stock them, gators will find a body of water. |
Yep. They've been finding their way into swimming pools and golf course water hazards since forever. |
Just a couple weeks ago, we were talking bout that giant gator (or croc) walking like a bawss across a Florida golf course. A mo fo of that size was in a golf course pond, making it MUCH more exciting for the dudes who dive in those ponds to collect and resell Titlests. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Have we been told if the parents have a criminal history yet? |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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cinimod wrote: | Have we been told if the parents have a criminal history yet? |
No, and we all know why. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | cinimod wrote: | Have we been told if the parents have a criminal history yet? |
No, and we all know why. |
Why?
Because it wouldn't be relevant. Law enforcement has already said that the parents were not being negligent. They were dutiful parents. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | cinimod wrote: | Have we been told if the parents have a criminal history yet? |
No, and we all know why. |
Why?
Because it wouldn't be relevant. Law enforcement has already said that the parents were not being negligent. They were dutiful parents. |
Wasn't relevant in the gorilla case either, but it happened. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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