***OFFICIAL GENERAL 2016 NBA DRAFTDAY DISCUSSION THREAD*** (OKC Trades Ibaka to ORL for Sabonis/Oladipo/Elyasova)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:38 pm    Post subject:

Good pick by Detroit
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject:

Wait, WHAT!?!????!?!? OKC did what!??

Why are they so hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject:

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Wait, WHAT!?!????!?!? OKC did what!??

Why are they so hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot?


Umm, they killed that trade. Orlando got robbed. Ibaka has been declining. They got Oladipo to pair with Westbrook in the backcourt - might be the best defensive backcourt in the L now, and Oladipo is no slouch offensively. Huge upgrade from Robertson. They lose something going from Ibaka to Sabonis, but Sabonis could be good and they already had trouble getting enough minutes to both Adams and Kanter. Plus they got Ilyasova too for depth. OKC killed it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:10 pm    Post subject:

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VegasLakerFan wrote:
Wait, WHAT!?!????!?!? OKC did what!??

Why are they so hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot?


Umm, they killed that trade. Orlando got robbed. Ibaka has been declining. They got Oladipo to pair with Westbrook in the backcourt - might be the best defensive backcourt in the L now, and Oladipo is no slouch offensively. Huge upgrade from Robertson. They lose something going from Ibaka to Sabonis, but Sabonis could be good and they already had trouble getting enough minutes to both Adams and Kanter. Plus they got Ilyasova too for depth. OKC killed it.


I hope everyone feels that way. And I hope Orlando sucks and he doesn't fit in and they have to trade him at a discount at the deadline.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:30 pm    Post subject:

LOL..Thong Maker went #10 to the Bucks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject:

1st decent pick by Ainge tonight
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:07 pm    Post subject:

LakerSanity wrote:
VegasLakerFan wrote:
Wait, WHAT!?!????!?!? OKC did what!??

Why are they so hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot?


Umm, they killed that trade. Orlando got robbed. Ibaka has been declining. They got Oladipo to pair with Westbrook in the backcourt - might be the best defensive backcourt in the L now, and Oladipo is no slouch offensively. Huge upgrade from Robertson. They lose something going from Ibaka to Sabonis, but Sabonis could be good and they already had trouble getting enough minutes to both Adams and Kanter. Plus they got Ilyasova too for depth. OKC killed it.


I agree. Not only best defensive, but isn't that the most athletic backcourt as well? Attacking Warrior's finesse backcourt with athleticism. If KD stays, I believe they beat the Warriors next year. But of course, he's coming to the Lakers. lol!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject:

Cavs got a gem in Kay.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:01 pm    Post subject:

LakerSanity wrote:
VegasLakerFan wrote:
Wait, WHAT!?!????!?!? OKC did what!??

Why are they so hellbent on shooting themselves in the foot?


Umm, they killed that trade. Orlando got robbed. Ibaka has been declining. They got Oladipo to pair with Westbrook in the backcourt - might be the best defensive backcourt in the L now, and Oladipo is no slouch offensively. Huge upgrade from Robertson. They lose something going from Ibaka to Sabonis, but Sabonis could be good and they already had trouble getting enough minutes to both Adams and Kanter. Plus they got Ilyasova too for depth. OKC killed it.


Great trade for OKC! Long-term view.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:15 am    Post subject:

Who of the undrafted ones would you like to see given a chance with the Lakers?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:40 am    Post subject:

For a team with no lottery pick, the Cavs won the draft by stealing Kay Felder after the Hawks picked him as such a late pick. There are people who are born to play basketball. Everyone turned their head probably because his height. I don't care. He can flat out shoot, will right away have a top 3/4 handle in the league, gets to the line, and can facilitate for others and will be able to do it in the NBA. Now he's on the Cavs of all teams...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject:

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For a team with no lottery pick, the Cavs won the draft by stealing Kay Felder after the Hawks picked him as such a late pick. There are people who are born to play basketball. Everyone turned their head probably because his height. I don't care. He can flat out shoot, will right away have a top 3/4 handle in the league, gets to the line, and can facilitate for others and will be able to do it in the NBA. Now he's on the Cavs of all teams...


Shooting isn't the problem, shooting over length is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject:

NBA draft recap: Pick-by-pick grades, analysis

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The 2016 NBA draft has come and gone, as some of the world's most talented young players prepare to embark on their once-in-a-lifetime NBA journeys, while other find themselves on the outside looking in. USA TODAY Sports takes a look at all 60 selections, providing pick-by-pick analysis and grades for each player and team.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Kings picked up 2 centers on draft?

Is WCS or Cousins available?
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The Lakers were willing to pay cash for a second-round pick on Thursday night, but didn’t want to surrender a future second-rounder to make a deal happen, and ultimately couldn’t find a trade partner, tweets Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders.


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Lakers were willing to pay cash for another 2nd rounder but weren't willing to trade a future 2nd

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject:

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Kings picked up 2 centers on draft?

Is WCS or Cousins available?


Rumor is the Kings are interested in trading for D'Angelo Russell.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:33 am    Post subject:

Celtics' search for star continues after an underwhelming NBA Draft
Boston didn't make the big splash it wanted to on Thursday.

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For a little while on Thursday, it looked like the Boston Celtics might own the 2016 NBA Draft. In a literal sense, they had sort of owned the draft for a while, as they entered the night with eight of the 60 picks. General manager Danny Ainge was as open as can be about his desire to trade some of them and land a star player. It was widely known that even the No. 3 pick -- the crown jewel of Ainge's franchise-altering 2013 trade with the Brooklyn Nets -- was available for the right price.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/celtics-search-for-star-continues-after-an-underwhelming-nba-draft/
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:18 am    Post subject:

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Kings picked up 2 centers on draft?

Is WCS or Cousins available?


Rumor is the Kings are interested in trading for D'Angelo Russell.


Cousin? he's good but hopefully we can just sign Whiteside in FA and keep DLo
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:00 am    Post subject:

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The Lakers were willing to pay cash for a second-round pick on Thursday night, but didn’t want to surrender a future second-rounder to make a deal happen, and ultimately couldn’t find a trade partner, tweets Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders.


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Eric Pincus _at_ EricPincus
Lakers were willing to pay cash for another 2nd rounder but weren't willing to trade a future 2nd

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/


The price for pick #38 (McCaw) and #54 (Felder ) is the same at $2.4M. Teams are either overconfident or insane.

It is fun for Mitch then, and for us now to speculate who he was targeting. Maybe Zach Auguste? But I am glad Mitch did not budge and overpay. This draft is not known for its quality or depth.

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Golden State Warriors second-round pick Patrick McCaw has agreed to a guaranteed two-year contract with the reigning Western Conference champions, league sources told The Vertical.

McCaw's deal will be for the minimum, sources said, and gives him a strong opportunity to make the Warriors' roster next season. Golden State sent $2.4 million to the Milwaukee Bucks for the draft rights to McCaw, who was taken with the No. 38 pick on Thursday.


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Q: On if they tried to buy a second-round pick:
Kupchak: We tried, yeah. It’s a mad house the last hour. You’re kind of chasing your tail trying to buy a pick. Everybody’s trying to buy picks. The team that you’re trying to buy a pick from says, “Well, if our guys there we’re going to use it. But if he’s not there, we’ll sell it. But we really don’t want to sell. We want a future pick. You’re not going to do it for a future pick? Well, this team offered us this.” That takes minutes then that pick is gone and you’re going down and you’re kind of just chasing it. So it’s nerve-wracking. The stakes aren’t nearly as high as the first round. So to some degree it’s kind of fun because you’re scrambling and it gets a little exciting. You’re trying to nail a player that you thought would be drafted and isn’t drafted. But we did not get anybody.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:33 am    Post subject:

Mitch's post draft talk is always interesting. It appears he wanted someone drafted in late second round but could not buy a pick. It is always good to focus on your own big board instead of the various mocks.


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Q: On if he worries when the player he picks seems to have dropped in the draft:
Kupchak: All the general managers, after the draft, are very happy with the way the draft went. They’re always saying, “We though he’d be a first-round pick and he dropped and we didn’t think he’d be there and we’re ecstatic to draft him.” I think that’s just the nature of the business. … There’s always going to be somebody somewhere that drops or doesn’t take place the way you thought it would take place. And every year we’re happy with who we draft. The reality is you have to wait a couple of years and look back on it and see if you were right: The guy should have been higher and he dropped and you had him pegged correctly and you were happy to draft him at a lower number. So yes, we did think (Zubac) would be drafted higher. I don’t read many of the mock drafts. A lot of people do. I’m aware that he could have been drafted in the first round, and he almost was drafted in the first round. There were other guys right next him that we thought would be drafted and they went 20 slots past him. So I don’t know. … Were we wrong or was the mock draft wrong? We don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see. We did think he’d be gone earlier. We did think he’d be a first-round pick. But there’s so much that goes into the draft. You have 30 teams. They’re all trying to figure it out. A lot of times a team that’s definitely going to pick at 24 or 25 — a player they didn’t think was going to be available all of sudden is available — and they take that player. And then that one player they were going to take slides. Then they slide to a point where someone like us comes along and we have a pick available and we have a need at that position and we take him.


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In fact, Zubac — whom Los Angeles considered a top-20 pick — was praying for the teams ahead of the Lakers to pass on him
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:27 am    Post subject:

U-S-A, U-S-A! American basketball thriving despite doom, gloom from 2016 NBA Draft
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Think about this. High school talent analysts promised you the recruiting class of 2015 was among the worst in a generation. Freshman performance in 2015-16 college basketball underscored that this projection seemed accurate. And still each of the top three prospects to be chosen by NBA teams went through AAU, high school and a single year of college basketball in the U.S.

However, because the NBA chose a significant number of international players through the course of two draft rounds, we suddenly are being reminded of the supposed crisis in American basketball.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-american-basketball-doom-gloom-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram-european-players/uote73l92bl318gmpi0lb5nff
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