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Espn710 podcast > Thompson and Trudell > 6/15 hour 1 > 36 min mark
Ding segment where trudell brings up the Ingram bit. |
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| tox wrote: | | cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ^Trudell had a segment today on how good Ingram looks. Said you can see it and feel it just waking around the facility. |
nice need to listen to that i remember him saying yesterday how amazing his shot looks now |
Very interesting. I thought Luke had already said that BI was a knockdown shooter in practice though. Unless they're specifically referring to form instead of results? |
There were some videos about 8-10 days ago showing the staff working with him on his form. He's made significant improvements on shoulder/arm/wrist alignment and the ending wrist flip & point. So, it appeared to me that they were overhauling his shot form.
to me at least, those videos looked like he still needed more arc on his shot, and that the timing between his legs and arm motion was still off.
those videos we saw were only 30-40 seconds though, so they might have been working on other things we weren't seeing
it'd be nice to see more recent vids and see if they've addressed those remaining (perceived) problems - I searched youtube, but didn't see anything from the last 4 days
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| LilJay24 wrote: | | Mark Medina: Lakers holding firm on not making Ingram available in trades. Prospects have told Lakers they want to play w/ him |
Article here: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/06/15/nba-draft-markelle-fultz-admits-competitive-rivalry-with-lonzo-ball/
I've watched most of the prospect interviews and there is little mention of Ingram. Seems like it's closed doors, behind the scenes stuff Medina picked up from scouts, team personnel. Trudell (the source I trust the most) has also corroborated it numerous times on his shows/segments. |
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| LilJay24 wrote: | | Mark Medina: Lakers holding firm on not making Ingram available in trades. Prospects have told Lakers they want to play w/ him |
Would a player wanting to be a Laker say they don't want to play with Ingram? 
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do you guys ever
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I like that play a lot, it has a Durantula feel as a rookie.
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I like that play a lot, it has a Durantula feel as a rookie. |
It's especially awesome when you remember how kinda timid he was to start the season too, finding his sea legs.
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| P.K. wrote: | reported 6/15 on silverscreenandroll:
The Lakers have also fielded numerous trade inquiries in recent weeks that include their No. 2 pick. The Lakers have listened to calls, but they have maintained that second-year forward Brandon Ingram is not available. The Lakers have liked Ingram’s steady growth in his defense, shooting and aggressiveness as he strives to gain more muscle. Meanwhile, the Lakers have heard from prospects they would like playing with Ingram.
One of the players to let the Lakers know about that was presumably Kansas forward Josh Jackson, who told the media after his second private workout with the Lakers that he felt a pairing of himself and Ingram could be “really special.”
The Lakers ranking Ingram so highly privately and publicly appears to be more than just an effort to boost the confidence of their young wing. All signs point to them truly believing he’s a big part of their future, and with all the behind-the-scenes information the team has access too that fans don’t, them feeling that way should get Lakers fans pumped about just how special Ingram might ultimately become.
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I'd guess that other teams have heard that the Lakers are impressed with Josh Jackson, and those other teams then inquired if BI might be available - since there's some overlap position wise between JJ/BI. This may have led to a lot more inquiries about BI in the last week or so, which bubbled up to the press.
regardless, it's still good to see that they're valuing BI that highly |
I mean, this is a nice sentiment and all, but if Minnesota called to offer KAT, I'd hope the Lakers would be willing to move Ingram. |
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| LakerLanny wrote: |
I like that play a lot, it has a Durantula feel as a rookie. |
But I seriously hope he's has heart of Kobe and not Durant
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| LakerSD wrote: | | ^Trudell had a segment today on how good Ingram looks. Said you can see it and feel it just waking around the facility. |
Summer league is gonna be fire works |
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To be fair, Trudell could get hyped over a ham sandwich
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LilJay24 wrote: | | Mark Medina: Lakers holding firm on not making Ingram available in trades. Prospects have told Lakers they want to play w/ him |
Would a player wanting to be a Laker say they don't want to play with Ingram? |
Actually, it goes a lot further than that:
| Quote: | | The Lakers have also fielded numerous trade inquiries in recent weeks that include their No. 2 pick. The Lakers have listened to calls, but they have maintained that second-year forward Brandon Ingram is not available. The Lakers have liked Ingram’s steady growth in his defense, shooting and aggressiveness as he strives to gain more muscle. Meanwhile, the Lakers have heard from prospects they would like playing with Ingram. |
They ain't trading him for nobody. |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | To be fair, Trudell could get hyped over a ham sandwich |
Honeybaked? I would hype that.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | To be fair, Trudell could get hyped over a ham sandwich |
Honeybaked? I would hype that. |
It's better than the ham that yo mama cooks. That's what the ads say on my local broadcasting station around Thanksgiving |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | P.K. wrote: | reported 6/15 on silverscreenandroll:
The Lakers have also fielded numerous trade inquiries in recent weeks that include their No. 2 pick. The Lakers have listened to calls, but they have maintained that second-year forward Brandon Ingram is not available. The Lakers have liked Ingram’s steady growth in his defense, shooting and aggressiveness as he strives to gain more muscle. Meanwhile, the Lakers have heard from prospects they would like playing with Ingram.
One of the players to let the Lakers know about that was presumably Kansas forward Josh Jackson, who told the media after his second private workout with the Lakers that he felt a pairing of himself and Ingram could be “really special.”
The Lakers ranking Ingram so highly privately and publicly appears to be more than just an effort to boost the confidence of their young wing. All signs point to them truly believing he’s a big part of their future, and with all the behind-the-scenes information the team has access too that fans don’t, them feeling that way should get Lakers fans pumped about just how special Ingram might ultimately become.
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I'd guess that other teams have heard that the Lakers are impressed with Josh Jackson, and those other teams then inquired if BI might be available - since there's some overlap position wise between JJ/BI. This may have led to a lot more inquiries about BI in the last week or so, which bubbled up to the press.
regardless, it's still good to see that they're valuing BI that highly |
I mean, this is a nice sentiment and all, but if Minnesota called to offer KAT, I'd hope the Lakers would be willing to move Ingram. |
Without evaluating how much Ingram fills out/grows/evolves over time, I personally wouldn't (and it seems like the Lakers FO feels the same way). Despite the huge talent discrepancy, the Wolves only won 5 more games than the Lakers this past season, and a lot of it had to do with how Wiggins and Towns defended. Their perceived defensive impact was a lot higher than their actual defensive impact, which was next to negligible most of the season. Towns is not that generational talent people have been hyping him up as. He has to improve on defense (and as a rim protector) for his team to not be in the same place next season (the lottery). I wouldn't label him one dimensional because of his passing ability, but it's not like he doesn't have significant holes in his game. |
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| LakerSD wrote: | Espn710 podcast > Thompson and Trudell > 6/15 hour 1 > 36 min mark
Ding segment where trudell brings up the Ingram bit. |
I'll give it a listen now, thanks for sharing 
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | |
Yeah tox, you really dropped the ball on that one. |
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Why do I get the sense that no one watched the Wolves play this season? I am legitimately scared now.
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KAT is mister empty stats
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| Chronicle wrote: | | KAT is mister empty stats |
I wouldn't go that far, but I wrote a piece earlier on why Wiggins and Towns putting up prime Kobe-Shaq stat lines doesn't guarantee wins for them, even against other lottery squads (see last Lakers vs Wolves game). A lot of their success last season was predicated on how well Rubio played. HE NEEDED TO PLAY WELL FOR THEM TO WIN. It has to do with, you know, doing something on the other end of the court and not just scoring. That thing called "defense", which for whatever reasons seems to get overlooked here.
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| Chase.button07 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: |
I like that play a lot, it has a Durantula feel as a rookie. |
But I seriously hope he's has heart of Kobe and not Durant |
The heart of a player that just won as the best player on the court?
I don't mind either heart thank you.
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| Megaton wrote: | | Chase.button07 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: |
I like that play a lot, it has a Durantula feel as a rookie. |
But I seriously hope he's has heart of Kobe and not Durant |
The heart of a player that just won as the best player on the court?
I don't mind either heart thank you. |
Wow. Jim1797 really hates KD. 
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | KAT is mister empty stats |
I wouldn't go that far, but I wrote a piece earlier on why Wiggins and Towns putting up prime Kobe-Shaq stat lines doesn't guarantee wins for them, even against other lottery squads (see last Lakers vs Wolves game). A lot of their success last season was predicated on how well Rubio played. HE NEEDED TO PLAY WELL FOR THEM TO WIN. It has to do with, you know, doing something on the other end of the court and not just scoring. That thing called "defense", which for whatever reasons seems to get overlooked here. |
What I dont understand though is why defense is such a problem for KAT when he was supposed to be a 2 way player. He has the physical tools
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