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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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AutumnWind wrote: | Dude is trying to play like a number one when he's more of a number 3 |
Kid's just following the front office and coaching staff's orders. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015 Posts: 32979
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I'm kind of tired of him already this season. He's just not a very fun player, and he's still another two years away from being Gumby Rudy Gay. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | Joe Pesci wrote: | He played his best tonight when he was on the floor (with Hart) as a fourth option behind Clarkson, Randle, and Kuzma. |
It's almost like that's a more natural role at this point or something. |
yep! _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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BigBoi Star Player
Joined: 13 May 2012 Posts: 3115
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
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SocalDevin Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
Traded for not being capable of being something that he's not, at this stage of his development? |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Jul 2016 Posts: 10939
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. _________________ Austin Reaves
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BigBoi Star Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. |
At this point just like DLO, I think he needs both. |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Jul 2016 Posts: 10939
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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BigBoi wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. |
At this point just like DLO, I think he needs both. |
And also just like DLO, it's way too early for the Lakers to think that. _________________ Austin Reaves
Tweeter: @sarah_dotbiz |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Nov 2016 Posts: 23731
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. |
At this point just like DLO, I think he needs both. |
And also just like DLO, it's way too early for the Lakers to think that. |
Let’s get rid of all our lottery picks and watch them flourish elsewhere. Yeah!!! |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. |
At this point just like DLO, I think he needs both. |
And also just like DLO, it's way too early for the Lakers to think that. |
Let’s get rid of all our lottery picks and watch them flourish elsewhere. Yeah!!! |
And trade them while their value is at their lowest! _________________ Austin Reaves
Tweeter: @sarah_dotbiz |
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Artest4Three Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 Oct 2017 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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I still believe in BI, but I really wish he would stop trying to be the next Kobe and pass the ball. His body clearly hasn't caught up with his skill-set yet, and if his shot isn't falling it's gonna be that much harder. Magic needs to have a sit down with the kid and scale back some of the expectations. If there's anybody that needs to assert himself in the offense more, it's Lonzo. |
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blackmamba08 Star Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2015 Posts: 2607 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I blame Magic for his attitude so far. Its all on Magic. Magic need to shut up for few month and let them play. He is just making unnecessary pressure to the young guys who are not able to contain it. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:26 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | BigBoi wrote: | Hope he gets traded asap so we can all stop whining about him already |
he needs a different role, not a different team. |
At this point just like DLO, I think he needs both. |
And also just like DLO, it's way too early for the Lakers to think that. |
Agreed, justsomelakerfan. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | We need to run the same kind of actions GSW runs to get KD and Klay open. If we're gonna give the dude the green light I rather it be off screens than him going ISO. |
He is not a good shooter off screens. His footwork and stance are a mess off screens. |
Well he's not very good off the iso either. He's shooting a bunch of midrange shots. You rather him just ISO and pull-up? I rather it be off the screen so he can catch and shoot rather than him dribble so much. Or come off the screen and take a dribble or two and pull up. Just make things easier for him so he doesn't need to break down a defender one on one so much.
If he's gonna flourish off Lonzo he's gonna have to learn how to come off screens cause his ISO opportunities won't be many |
I don't have the #s but I would guess he's not a proficient shooter off screens (nor is he one on ISOs). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Bol Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 4045
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:42 am Post subject: |
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The game looks so hard for him. It's sad to watch. Seems like his best approach is to remain as passive as possible to minimize his negative impact. He needs a consistent 3 point shot desperately. |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Man, hope the Lakers don't get trigger happy like they did with another #2 pick. These kids take time! _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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kobe_4_mvp Star Player
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 3798
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:52 am Post subject: |
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got the suns on 11/13 and 11/17. trade him after. |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:54 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: |
Man, hope the Lakers don't get trigger happy like they did with another #2 pick. These kids take time! |
Especially this one. Not sure how much you can learn about him long term just yet when he's just not ready _________________ Austin Reaves
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LakerSD Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Nov 2016 Posts: 23731
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:59 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: |
Man, hope the Lakers don't get trigger happy like they did with another #2 pick. These kids take time! |
Seriously. Outside of a few rare exceptions, these guys need the time. Didn’t seem like that other #2 pick was given the chance to sink or swim. Actually he was, he did swim but we foolishly traded him without the 2 max guaranteed. I guess Ingram is next and then maybe even Lonzo. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: |
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These quick turnaround "sink or swim" evaluations are ridiculous. DLO is well on his way to a 20/5/5 level season. I'd suspect Ingram in year 3 would be more physically and mentally ready to contribute too. If the Lakers weren't eager to develop 19 year olds, why didn't they just trade the picks for established veterans? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Man, hope the Lakers don't get trigger happy like they did with another #2 pick. These kids take time! |
Especially this one. Not sure how much you can learn about him long term just yet when he's just not ready |
well then he shouldn't start if he's not ready. We're not trying to give Boston a top pick because we're forcing the issue with Ingram. Bring him off the bench and start someone who's ready. |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:03 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | These quick turnaround "sink or swim" evaluations are ridiculous. DLO is well on his way to a 20/5/5 level season. I'd suspect Ingram in year 3 would be more physically and mentally ready to contribute too. If the Lakers weren't eager to develop 19 year olds, why didn't they just trade the picks for established veterans? |
because they don't know what they are doing.
I still feel D'Angelo was traded for personal reasons that Magic had defending his buddy Byron. But that's another story all to its own. |
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Bol Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:11 am Post subject: |
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KobeDunk wrote: | justsomelakerfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: |
Man, hope the Lakers don't get trigger happy like they did with another #2 pick. These kids take time! |
Especially this one. Not sure how much you can learn about him long term just yet when he's just not ready |
well then he shouldn't start if he's not ready. We're not trying to give Boston a top pick because we're forcing the issue with Ingram. Bring him off the bench and start someone who's ready. |
Agreed. There's no reason why his development has to hurt the team. Kobe wasn't even a starter in his 2nd season. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:14 am Post subject: |
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KobeDunk wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | These quick turnaround "sink or swim" evaluations are ridiculous. DLO is well on his way to a 20/5/5 level season. I'd suspect Ingram in year 3 would be more physically and mentally ready to contribute too. If the Lakers weren't eager to develop 19 year olds, why didn't they just trade the picks for established veterans? |
because they don't know what they are doing.
I still feel D'Angelo was traded for personal reasons that Magic had defending his buddy Byron. But that's another story all to its own. |
I hate saying this over and over, but I think we are severely lacking in the player development department. We were blessed with Kobe, who was a guy who trained hard but trained smartly too.
I feel edicts like "7-8% bodyfat" are nice, but may be a symptom of training harder but not smarter. We are still lacking in many fundamental skills in our young players (shooting for Jules and Ingram for example). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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