If we get better FAs I think with a reduced offensive load he will continue racking up numbers across the board. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
This kid is amazing and we should be prepared to offer him a max contract. It amazes me Laker fans aren't higher on him.
Month of February:
19PPG, 5.3 APG, 4.4 RPG
54% FG - 57% 3PT FG - 78% FT
He's younger than every rookie of the year canidate. His season stats are comparable to what PG13, Hayward, Butler, etc. did in their 4-6th years. He's also been a fantastic defender.
Yet... everyone loves Kuzma. Now on the season Ingram shoots less, averages more points, assists, and has a better FG and 3PT FG% than Kuzma. He's also younger.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:15 pm Post subject:
ingle wrote:
Texas_Pete wrote:
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject:
Texas_Pete wrote:
ingle wrote:
Texas_Pete wrote:
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
I always find it weird when people accuse you of making a comparison as a reflexive response.. without really looking at the substance of what's being communicated.
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
I always find it weird when people accuse you of making a comparison as a reflexive response.. without really looking at the substance of what's being communicated.
Right. I’ve never understood that. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
Really liked him as a playmaker tonight, thought he made the right read a really high percentage of the time. Thought he struggled a bit defensively navigating screens though.
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
I always find it weird when people accuse you of making a comparison as a reflexive response.. without really looking at the substance of what's being communicated.
This happens in the opposite direction as well. (Batum)
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
I always find it weird when people accuse you of making a comparison as a reflexive response.. without really looking at the substance of what's being communicated.
This happens in the opposite direction as well. (Batum)
Really liked him as a playmaker tonight, thought he made the right read a really high percentage of the time. Thought he struggled a bit defensively navigating screens though.
He has turned into a real stabilizing force when he's on the floor. It wasn't like that at the beginning of the season.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject:
GoldenThroat wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
Texas_Pete wrote:
ingle wrote:
Texas_Pete wrote:
re: BI's length, lateral quickness, and speed defensively. I've seen him make Russ Westbrook shoot an airball due to BI's 9'2" standing reach go go gadget arms. Last night, even with a reported 48" vert, Dennis Smith Jr didn't score once on BI.
I'd like for Luke to show BI some old Scottie Pippen defensive vids. Prime Pip was one of the greatest defensive players I've ever seen. I think BI has the physical tools to be a beast defender.
BI definitely has potential to be a good defensive player but let's calm down on the comparisons. Pippen was one of the best defenders of all time, he's got those cat like quicks that BI just doesn't have, plus the same freakish length. Look at this footage of rookie Pippen in the playoffs, he was already covering loads of ground on defense and becoming a menace on the break. That is like BI type length with Shawn Marion type bounce with light feet too.
BI to me is a far more natural offensive player than defensive player. If he can learn to use his length effectively he can be very disruptive on that end but I don't see him to be a shutdown one on one defender.
I'm not comparing the two. Pip is a top 50 player; BI isn't even an all star yet. I'm saying BI should watch tape on how Pip played defense and add to his game.
I always find it weird when people accuse you of making a comparison as a reflexive response.. without really looking at the substance of what's being communicated.
This happens in the opposite direction as well. (Batum)
At times yea.. Even outside of sports and this site.. I'm always like wth when people do it.. I was speaking in general not so much what happens on this site.
Remember BI blocked KD's shoot before the 3pt line last year as a rookie and stole the ball from KD this year in the of 4qt of one of the games. Love this guy playing "D"
Really liked him as a playmaker tonight, thought he made the right read a really high percentage of the time. Thought he struggled a bit defensively navigating screens though.
He has turned into a real stabilizing force when he's on the floor. It wasn't like that at the beginning of the season.
The overpenetration and getting his shot blocked or forcing up a wild shot has been GREATLY reduced, and there's a lot less ball-stopping.
Joined: 26 May 2016 Posts: 7825 Location: Long Beach
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:22 pm Post subject:
GoldenThroat wrote:
mookielala wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Really liked him as a playmaker tonight, thought he made the right read a really high percentage of the time. Thought he struggled a bit defensively navigating screens though.
He has turned into a real stabilizing force when he's on the floor. It wasn't like that at the beginning of the season.
The overpenetration and getting his shot blocked or forcing up a wild shot has been GREATLY reduced, and there's a lot less ball-stopping.
He's going to look even better when Ball is cleared to play without a minutes restriction.
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