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LakerSanity Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a question - if Ingram makes a leap from this year to next as comparatively significant as the leap Randle made from last year to this one, what does Ingram look like next year?
Second question, who made a bigger leap this year... Ingram or Randle? _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Here's a question - if Ingram makes a leap from this year to next as comparatively significant as the leap Randle made from last year to this one, what does Ingram look like next year?
Second question, who made a bigger leap this year... Ingram or Randle? |
To the first question: I project him as a perennial All-Star if there’s steady improvement as the years go by. But if he were to make a similar leap to Randle’s this year he’d look like a potential superstar.
Second question: I would say Randle since his improvement was so dramatic across the board on both ends. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | On Jan. 1st he was 32%, Feb 6th 33%. This is why I'm not real convinced his shot is legit, on the low attempts
These normal %s are on NBA.com, can date search |
The attempts are def low. Wouldn't be a surprise to see his percentage drop to like 34%, even 32% next season. But at least that seems like a floor and a pessimistic projection. 36-37% on decent volume seems possible as soon as next year. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Here's a question - if Ingram makes a leap from this year to next as comparatively significant as the leap Randle made from last year to this one, what does Ingram look like next year?
Second question, who made a bigger leap this year... Ingram or Randle? |
Randle. By a hair. The consistency being the primary factor. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | Here's a question - if Ingram makes a leap from this year to next as comparatively significant as the leap Randle made from last year to this one, what does Ingram look like next year?
Second question, who made a bigger leap this year... Ingram or Randle? |
Love the first question. If Ingram makes a comparable leap as Randle did this year, he'll be an efficient scorer because of his ability to drive, and he will all be a formidable defensive presence because of his length and intelligence.
I realize speaking about offense is where most of the focus is, but it's defense I'm really looking forward to next year because I'm envisioning BI and Ball getting after opponents defensively.
And if Randle (whom I definitely believe made the bigger leap over BI to answer the second question) is here, and I hope like heck he is, I'm expecting another jump defensively. I could be mistaken, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I believe we jumped from last, or bottom defensively, to about 12th defensively.
I'd like to see us make top five in that category next year. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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If Ingram makes a Randle like jump next year, he's an all-star IMO (especially if we win 50+ games). _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ingram had a bigger leap forward this year than Julius did, FWIW. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Given those numbers, it's not crazy to assume that we should try to play Ingram at the 1/2 combo and move Kuzma to the starting 3, and have Ingram and Lonzo as the 1/2 and trade ball handling/point guard responsibilities
Lonzo Ball
Brandon Ingram
Kyle Kuzma
Julius Randle
Center
Bench:
Isaiah Thomas
Josh Hart
Someone / Draft Pick
Travis Wear
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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BI at the 1. Lonzo at the 2. Sexy.
Someone at the 3.
Kuz at 4.
Someone at the 5 sounds better. |
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mookielala Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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My wish is that BI can somehow become money at the line. That simple thing would take him to another level. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | I think Ingram had a bigger leap forward this year than Julius did, FWIW. |
I agree. You can make the case that BI added more elements to his game. |
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The Dagger Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Ingram should be on the do not trade list. He will be a perenial allstar. He improves every game and strives to get better. _________________ The great Laker Center Tradition continues.....Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Gasol, AD....Gasol. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:21 am Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | BI at the 1. Lonzo at the 2. Sexy.
Someone at the 3.
Kuz at 4.
Someone at the 5 sounds better. |
PG at the 3 in that lineup and a cheap bouncy rim protector at the 5 and then we're looking deadly. |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Randle, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Ball, we’re one star away from a playoff team, maybe second rounder. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Would like to see Ingram shooting 80% on his free throws next year. As much as he drives and gets contact, need to make those shots from the charity stripe. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | Would like to see Ingram shooting 80% on his free throws next year. As much as he drives and gets contact, need to make those shots from the charity stripe. |
If Brogdan can aim for the 75% mark at the FT line next season, that would be steady progress for a third year player. I think if he maxes out at 80% in the proceeding seasons, that would as good as it gets.
That being said, his primary focus should be on injury prevention, and the rest will take care of itself. IMO, Luke was on point about BI evolving as a player before the injuries hit him. This is where the training staff and nutritionists will be worth their weight in gold. There is plenty of data out there supporting diets that favor the microbiome (probiotics and prebiotics). |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Does anybody know if Ingram is going to work out with Kobe? |
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Judah Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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scoobs wrote: | Does anybody know if Ingram is going to work out with Kobe? |
I haven’t seen anything mentioning it. I hope he does, but with things like that, it’s always possible for it to happen without us being aware of it until much later. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Because BI doesn’t have Lavar as a dad or the personality of Kuzma..he’ll forever be slept on. Hope he has a monster season next year |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Because BI doesn’t have Lavar as a dad or the personality of Kuzma..he’ll forever be slept on. Hope he has a monster season next year |
slept on? he might be the fan fav of the 3 because he has the unique length |
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Because BI doesn’t have Lavar as a dad or the personality of Kuzma..he’ll forever be slept on. Hope he has a monster season next year |
slept on? he might be the fan fav of the 3 because he has the unique length |
Media wise |
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Because BI doesn’t have Lavar as a dad or the personality of Kuzma..he’ll forever be slept on. Hope he has a monster season next year |
slept on? he might be the fan fav of the 3 because he has the unique length |
Media wise |
Yea he's the least talked about.. but most still say that he's better than Zo, which idk if that's true |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Is bi back in the gym like Randle? |
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Is bi back in the gym like Randle? |
I'm sure they all are..regular people who like basketball don't go 3 weeks without getting the itch again... I'm sure these dudes who strive to be legends want to go work at that goal, on top of the pure love of the game |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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He needs to stay healthy...period _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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