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LakerSanity
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| Naf_srekaL wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
This is very true. However, with Lebron on board now, I'm not sure Ingram's going to be given the patience he deserves. Fair or not, this is likely a make or break season for him. |
Not arguing that, more the notion that you can determine a player's future after seeing him play for 2 years and 5 preseason games. |
Complete agreement there.
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dao
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
No kidding, not only Oladipo but a lot of players in recent years. |
And Oladipo has been traded twice. The Lakers have shown they will trade or let young players go instead of pay them if they don’t believe they are worth the investment. Oladipo was an outlier in his career trajectory and is a starter on a championship team caliber player, not a top dude IMO. In the West, he isn’t a perennial all star he would make a few all star games. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ingram follows a similar career trajectory as far as improving as a player. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
No kidding, not only Oladipo but a lot of players in recent years. |
And Oladipo has been traded twice. The Lakers have shown they will trade or let young players go instead of pay them if they don’t believe they are worth the investment. Oladipo was an outlier in his career trajectory and is a starter on a championship team caliber player, not a top dude IMO. In the West, he isn’t a perennial all star he would make a few all star games. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ingram follows a similar career trajectory as far as improving as a player. |
I will be happy if he turns out to be another Oladipo. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Been a BI fan from day 1 unlike Russell.
I think BI can be Pippenesque. He just needs to keep developing that aggressiveness |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
No kidding, not only Oladipo but a lot of players in recent years. |
And Oladipo has been traded twice. The Lakers have shown they will trade or let young players go instead of pay them if they don’t believe they are worth the investment. Oladipo was an outlier in his career trajectory and is a starter on a championship team caliber player, not a top dude IMO. In the West, he isn’t a perennial all star he would make a few all star games. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ingram follows a similar career trajectory as far as improving as a player. |
I agree with most of this but at some point I think it's going to be obvious that Ingram is the outlier.
From how he looked at the start of his rookie season to how he looked at the end of his rookie season. From how he looked from the end of his first season to the start of his second season. From how he looked at the start of his second season to the end of his second season.
Everything about his physical profile, his strengths and weaknesses,his growth, etc. he looks like a complete outlier.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Fortysixn2 wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | The "he will never be" comments always seem odd to me. |
Eh, just an opinion. I hope he becomes the GOAT, but I’ve watched a lot of basketball and I think I can make a pretty fair guess at most outcomes. Maybe I’m wrong, wouldn’t be the first time. |
I will take Coach K’s word over anyone who probably knows more about BI then anyone else, Ingram already said he has the hunger to be great and Coach K already said he is critical of himself...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/lakers/news/160719coachk-ingram |
Having the hunger and being self critical is far from enough to be sure somebody will be a superstar. Coach K coached him one year, about 8 months to be more precise I wouldn’t call him some BI expert. Not to mention that article is two years old... |
Those 2 years have already given us glimpses of stardom and a guy who can be the next big thing, why do you guys always have a way to act like our guys are nothing but yet act like the Celtics are gonna be great because of Tatum and Brown? |
I don’t think that Brown will be a franchise player either, Tatum could.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
This is very true. However, with Lebron on board now, I'm not sure Ingram's going to be given the patience he deserves. Fair or not, this is likely a make or break season for him. |
Agreed, I believe he will be a significantly improved player 2 years from now. I also understand that 2 years from now doesn't necessarily work for what the Lakers are trying to achieve.
If he can be a good player, while transitioning into a significant piece to a championship contender he'll be fine. |
He is going to have to show the FO that he is worth a large contract. They don’t seem to be fond of paying our young players.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
This is very true. However, with Lebron on board now, I'm not sure Ingram's going to be given the patience he deserves. Fair or not, this is likely a make or break season for him. |
Agreed, I believe he will be a significantly improved player 2 years from now. I also understand that 2 years from now doesn't necessarily work for what the Lakers are trying to achieve.
If he can be a good player, while transitioning into a significant piece to a championship contender he'll be fine. |
He is going to have to show the FO that he is worth a large contract. They don’t seem to be fond of paying our young players. |
That appears to be the case. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | Naf_srekaL wrote: | It took Oladipo until his 5th year, and he came into the league at 21.
Ingram just turned 21.
You guys are too quick to judge. |
This is very true. However, with Lebron on board now, I'm not sure Ingram's going to be given the patience he deserves. Fair or not, this is likely a make or break season for him. |
Agreed, I believe he will be a significantly improved player 2 years from now. I also understand that 2 years from now doesn't necessarily work for what the Lakers are trying to achieve.
If he can be a good player, while transitioning into a significant piece to a championship contender he'll be fine. |
He is going to have to show the FO that he is worth a large contract. They don’t seem to be fond of paying our young players. |
Correction: they’re not fond of paying the unworthy young players. They’ll pay BI because he’ll earn it if he keeps on improving as some of us here have always believed that he would. He’s the one, and I believe they’ll keep him. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, agree with you both, he'll have to show the front office, and I believe he'll prove worthy.
He should be thanking Bron for signing. Not that he'll only prove worthy because of Bron's presence, but having Bron out there will inflate some of his numbers and efficiency.
The opposing teams best perimeter defender will be on Bron, and that opposing teams defense will be compromised just from his mere presence, which Ingram should be able to exploit. Which wasn't the case last year. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | Yep, agree with you both, he'll have to show the front office, and I believe he'll prove worthy.
He should be thanking Bron for signing. Not that he'll only prove worthy because of Bron's presence, but having Bron out there will inflate some of his numbers and efficiency.
The opposing teams best perimeter defender will be on Bron, and that opposing teams defense will be compromised just from his mere presence, which Ingram should be able to exploit. Which wasn't the case last year. |
not only is LeBron being here good for our young players but they will taste winning at an early age.. BI is 21, Ball is 20, Kuzma is 23, Hart is 23, these guys will be apart of winning and a chance to win titles at an early age because of LeBron and whoever we get in the next few years. |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | What does drip mean? |
Clothing swag / swag |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:14 am Post subject: |
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It is obvious that BI is taking another big step up this year. Will he reach all star level or close to it this year? I think he may play near that level while falling short of making the team.
What is exciting is that we should expect him to continue to improve as he works on his skills and hs body matures. I think this year he will play at a near all star level but within 2 years will be considered an elite NBA player.
Saw the comments on paying our players and I totally disagree. The plan is to have a max spot open and to fill it. Once that happen and our players are due for contracts they will get paid. Randle was an odd situation as his market value was not that high yet and it would have impacted the ability to sign a max player. I still think the FO mishandled him by not showing him love and giving him a 12 Mil contract to make it worth his while to sign a 1 year deal. I also think they were very concerned about the PG position and had Rondo there. It might have made sense to resign Randle and sign Rondo and not resign KCP but I think KCP was tied to Lebron so that choice was easy. I know I would rather have Rondo and Randle without KCP right now. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| I think Ingram would be able to keep improving himself in his 5-6 years, thanks to the body mature to complete physically |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Ingram was nonexistent yesterday. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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It is pretty simple for Ingram.
If he develops a consistent jump shot, he is a star. If his shot only moderately improves from where it is today, he will be an average rotation player. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Ingram was garbage as usual. Just didnt get the ball last game and became his passive self. I think we need to sell high right now before his value plummets. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | What does drip mean? |
Clothing swag / swag |
Thanks |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Practice wrote: | | Ingram was nonexistent yesterday. |
no turnovers no missed free throws ...didn't miss a shot |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | Ingram was nonexistent yesterday. |
no turnovers no missed free throws ...didn't miss a shot |
He’s gotta be more aggressive, at least take couple of step back 3s from the bench. Need to find a way to increase his volume of 3s. Can somebody please tell him he can’t avg 20ppg without shooting atleast a billion 3s 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Practice wrote: | | Ingram was nonexistent yesterday. |
He was actually playing yesterday. That was him with his Isaac Bonga mask. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are silly.
Coach rested him yesterday. Played 0 minutes. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | You guys are silly.
Coach rested him yesterday. Played 0 minutes. |
NO EXCUSES |
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