| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Vottomatic
Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 Feb 2015
Posts: 385
|
 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| NotHype wrote: | | I’ll never forgive Magic for thinking Brandon Ingram is the next great thing. Tatum is playing like an allstar in his second season and we could’ve drafted him. This will haunt the franchise forever. |
??? Has Tatum even been playing good? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Joe Pesci
Star Player
Joined: 15 Oct 2017
Posts: 3885
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| 1ngr4m wrote: | | epak wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | Yea.. um. A starting line up long term that doesn't feature your best players doesn't make any sense to me. I was only saying he should earn the starting spot back, which I would fully expect.
Ingram won't be coming off the bench this season, or be relegated to a sixth man role lol.. |
You're probably right.
That being said, was Harrison Barnes better than Iggy in 2016? It's not always about the "best" player starting imo. I actually dont care if it's BI or Kuz. Just hit your jumper whoever it is. |
That kinda proves the point.
Harrison Barnes started cause he was 23 and at the time, a huge part of their long term plans. If Iggy was 23 too, he could have been starting over Barnes 100%.
Ingram is starting. Even if you think he doesn't stick on the team long term, they ain't killing his trade value. |
Barnes started because he royally sucked coming off the bench while Iguodala played the same as a starter or sixth man.
Same with Ginobli. All those scrubs who started over him played better as starters than they would have coming off the bench wile Ginobli’s game (and ego) was stable enough to play well in both roles.
_________________
A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baron Von Humongous
Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 32979
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Vottomatic wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | I’ll never forgive Magic for thinking Brandon Ingram is the next great thing. Tatum is playing like an allstar in his second season and we could’ve drafted him. This will haunt the franchise forever. |
??? Has Tatum even been playing good? |
Yes, but had a bad game tonight. This is all such small sample size nonsense fun.
_________________
Under New Management |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AirTupac
Star Player
Joined: 04 Feb 2018
Posts: 1234
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| People quick to react as always... Ingram will shut you all up lmao. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LongBeachPoly
Franchise Player
Joined: 14 Jul 2012
Posts: 16135
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Vottomatic wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | I’ll never forgive Magic for thinking Brandon Ingram is the next great thing. Tatum is playing like an allstar in his second season and we could’ve drafted him. This will haunt the franchise forever. |
??? Has Tatum even been playing good? |
Before tonight, yup
He laid an egg tonight but coming in, avg 21 pts 11 reb
48% fg
36% 3fg |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Villain6Activated
Star Player
Joined: 22 Dec 2011
Posts: 6697
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
No missed shots, zero turnovers and not a single person scored on BI tonight.
_________________
“Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PlantedTanks
Star Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2017
Posts: 3156
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Vottomatic wrote: | | NotHype wrote: | | I’ll never forgive Magic for thinking Brandon Ingram is the next great thing. Tatum is playing like an allstar in his second season and we could’ve drafted him. This will haunt the franchise forever. |
??? Has Tatum even been playing good? |
His offense has been very inconsistent game to game. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ringfinger
Retired Number
Joined: 08 Oct 2013
Posts: 29418
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakesh0wtime
Star Player
Joined: 28 Mar 2016
Posts: 5351
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
Hahaa why do you dislike him so much |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Megaton
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Feb 2015
Posts: 25636
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
We may have to wait for a time to get one.
Our only hope is for Ingram to play better, the Pelicans to suck and AD to get frustrated and demand a trade here.
_________________
Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jesusdelonla
Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jan 2018
Posts: 15430
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
We should have traded him for KL. We won't get anybody now.
Nobody worth giving bi over. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Baron Von Humongous
Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 32979
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
Tbh, his defensive improvement is worth keeping around through his shooting struggles.
_________________
Under New Management |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
manlisten
Star Player
Joined: 09 Jul 2004
Posts: 3188
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Once again he decides not to show up. Hardly even noticed him out there.
_________________
It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KeepItRealOrElse
Retired Number
Joined: 11 Oct 2012
Posts: 32767
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
We should have traded him for KL. We won't get anybody now.
Nobody worth giving bi over. |
BI alone wasn't enough to get him |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Could have really used BI’s presence down the stretch against the Spurs.
Last edited by Inspector Gadget on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:13 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="Inspector Gadget"][quote="Vottomatic"] | NotHype wrote: | I’ll never forgive Magic for thinking Brandon Ingram is the next great thing. Tatum is playing like an allstar in his second season and we could’ve drafted him. This will haunt the franchise forever.
??? Has Tatum even been playing good? |
Even if he is, they are no where near a lock to make the finals, Bucks and Raptors look like they are more ready to take control of the EC right now... but it’s a long season and like us Boston will eventually start piling up wins but I’m not sure if they can get to the finals as easily as previously thought.
Last edited by Inspector Gadget on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KB824MJ
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
Posts: 1349
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
BI is shooting over 50% and talk over here is he hasn't shot well? Look at his minutes 26 and 28. He has 16 points first game and 12 points second. He could easily get 20 if the minutes and plays were run for him, even without a 3 ball.
No one has shot well from 3.
I can go further in defense too, first game 2 blocks 2 steals, 2nd 1block 1 steal. And he can defend well.
I truly don't understand the people that say he's shooting poorly, when has only shooting 3s been shooting poorly? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakesh0wtime
Star Player
Joined: 28 Mar 2016
Posts: 5351
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
We should have traded him for KL. We won't get anybody now.
Nobody worth giving bi over. |
BI alone wasn't enough to get him |
Yeah it would’ve taken Hart and probably Lonzo.
For a dude who we don’t even know wants to play with Lebron and for the Lakers.
But yeah keep pushing that we should’ve traded Ingram for Kawhi narrative. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KB824MJ
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
Posts: 1349
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ingrams stats for the 2 games
28.0 minutes
14.0 ppg
52.2 fg%
4.0 rebs
0.5 assists |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KeepItRealOrElse
Retired Number
Joined: 11 Oct 2012
Posts: 32767
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| KB824MJ wrote: | BI is shooting over 50% and talk over here is he hasn't shot well? Look at his minutes 26 and 28. He has 16 points first game and 12 points second. He could easily get 20 if the minutes and plays were run for him, even without a 3 ball.
No one has shot well from 3.
I can go further in defense too, first game 2 blocks 2 steals, 2nd 1block 1 steal. And he can defend well.
I truly don't understand the people that say he's shooting poorly, when has only shooting 3s been shooting poorly? |
he likes to ISO and isn't probably is the 3pt shooter of our young wings, by far probably. the fit w Bron isn't natural. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KB824MJ
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jun 2015
Posts: 1349
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ingrams stats for the 2 games
28.0 minutes
14.0 ppg
52.2 fg%
4.0 rebs
0.5 assists |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SocalDevin
Star Player
Joined: 26 May 2016
Posts: 7825
Location: Long Beach
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Odd, how the narratives shift.
First it was he can't play with Bron, we should trade him or he needs to come off the bench.
Then he plays with Bron, and then it's.. He plays well with Bron, and the analytics guys predicted he would (which they did).
Now we're back to he isn't a natural fit next to Bron.
Whenever he doesn't play for a while the commentary in here starts taking odd turns. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
KeepItRealOrElse
Retired Number
Joined: 11 Oct 2012
Posts: 32767
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| SocalDevin wrote: | Odd, how the narratives shift.
First it was he can't play with Bron, we should trade him or he needs to come off the bench.
Then he plays with Bron, and then it's.. He plays well with Bron, and the analytics guys predicted he would (which they did).
Now we're back to he isn't a natural fit next to Bron. |
why don't we stick with the original narrative/fact that we all have known about playing next to Bron. you need to be able to shoot. period. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jesusdelonla
Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jan 2018
Posts: 15430
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Who is a realistic big we can get for an Ingram-centric package? |
We should have traded him for KL. We won't get anybody now.
Nobody worth giving bi over. |
BI alone wasn't enough to get him |
Yeah it would’ve taken Hart and probably Lonzo.
For a dude who we don’t even know wants to play with Lebron and for the Lakers.
But yeah keep pushing that we should’ve traded Ingram for Kawhi narrative. |
We didn't even offer bi, how do u know it would have taken bi + Hart+ lonzo? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46639
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| SocalDevin wrote: | Odd, how the narratives shift.
First it was he can't play with Bron, we should trade him or he needs to come off the bench.
Then he plays with Bron, and then it's.. He plays well with Bron, and the analytics guys predicted he would (which they did).
Now we're back to he isn't a natural fit next to Bron. |
People are just basing the anti talk on his stats which right now currently doesn’t look Impressive right now, but his D has been a very nice pleasant surprise.. I’m expecting the 14PPG average to Improve to 21-22PPG because he isn’t really being used as a focal guy like last year because we have more options on this team but once he settles in he will start being comfortable out there no matter how the game is being played.
Last edited by Inspector Gadget on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:30 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
