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ringfinger
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | We need him and rondo back. |
We do, but we should have been able to beat the Nets without them. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| IBWriter wrote: | | Hmm, what's our win/loss record without Ingram? |
Doesn’t matter. Stats say we’re better without him
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| He should come back to his starting job after Hart’s horrible stretch. |
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King Kleazy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Inverse wrote: | | IBWriter wrote: | | Hmm, what's our win/loss record without Ingram? |
Doesn’t matter. Stats say we’re better without him |
Keep that same energy pal |
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Inverse
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| King Kleazy wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | IBWriter wrote: | | Hmm, what's our win/loss record without Ingram? |
Doesn’t matter. Stats say we’re better without him |
Keep that same energy pal |
I was being sarcastic
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | chrisca91 wrote: | | How long has INgram been out now? His injury is more serious than I expected |
More like our medical staff is just trash. |
It IS trash. I'm tired of people defending it. |
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| 32 wrote: | | I hope when he comes back he will stay in the flow of the offense and not be a ball stopper. |
I hope when he comes back he will play the way he's most comfortable because at least we were winning (bleep) games and not going 1-3 on a 4 game road trip with 3 sub .500 teams
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King Kleazy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Inverse wrote: | | King Kleazy wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | IBWriter wrote: | | Hmm, what's our win/loss record without Ingram? |
Doesn’t matter. Stats say we’re better without him |
Keep that same energy pal |
I was being sarcastic |
Oh......  I’m in my feelings, sorry |
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TheeLakeshow
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | I feel that at some point if you’re looking at net rating for lineups and concluding that Josh Hart should start over Ingram, there’s a clear divide between how you think front offices view advanced stats and how they actually view advanced stats.
Ingram is clearly underperforming but his ball handling, ability to get shots off from himself, slow the pace down, use his length on defense has a clear impact on the team. That doesn’t mean (bleep) the advanced stats and that Ingram is better then he actually is, but it goes deeper then your (bleep) Net rating being shoved down our throats after every 25 minutes. |
I got blasted for making this point a week ago. Sometimes easier to just sit back and watch what the team does once a player goes down for whatever reason. If this stretch didnt make you realize how much Ingram does beyond the stat sheet then I dont know what to say.
We need him and all our guys back in a hurry, we look like a mess.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ingram is the cure to all our ills. Can't wait to get him back and all of his superpowers.
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MJST
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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So now ya'll appreciate Ingram 
Suddenly "he doesn't score over 20 a game that often" doesn't matter 
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justsomelakerfan
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Where’s your lineup ratings now nerds
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CantStopJM
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Ingram is the cure to all our ills. Can't wait to get him back and all of his superpowers. |
^ sounds like a Hart over Ingram in the starting lineup truther. No one is saying that. |
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TheeLakeshow
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I was going to dig up GT numbers/ratings post but it isnt worth it. The point of the story..... its not always black and white with the numbers kids. Cant wait to get back to what we were doing before which was winning games.
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TheeLakeshow
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Ingram is the cure to all our ills. Can't wait to get him back and all of his superpowers. |
Definitely not a cure all, but a big big help.
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King Kleazy
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Ingram is the cure to all our ills. Can't wait to get him back and all of his superpowers. |
Well it damn sure ain’t hart or Kuzma defending  |
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al242
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | Where’s your lineup ratings now nerds |
I’m waiting for these basketball heads to produce more of these type of stats, they’ve all seem to gone quiet...for this same reason they’re posting on LG like the rest of us and not actually working for an NBA front office. |
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Japago
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lakers were dealing with these issues with Brandon Ingram. I saw the same things against Orlando, Houston, and Toronto. Ingram will be just as bad defending against screens as the rest of the Lakers. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I am just glad we did not trade him when 85% of LG were convinced that Hart was the superior player (you know who you are).....but hey, that was way back....like....3 days ago. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I missed the narrative on the team being better without him, but I can say with certainty that Dudley is a candidate for the "Ingram special". |
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LakerLogic
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Missing McGee is a bigger factor than missing BI tbh. We're not deep enough to withstand all these injuries.
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CantStopJM
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| Japago wrote: | | The Lakers were dealing with these issues with Brandon Ingram. I saw the same things against Orlando, Houston, and Toronto. Ingram will be just as bad defending against screens as the rest of the Lakers. |
Ingram has good man to man defense. Hart and Kuz are just red carpets to the rim and can’t defend off the ball either. |
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Japago
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | The Lakers were dealing with these issues with Brandon Ingram. I saw the same things against Orlando, Houston, and Toronto. Ingram will be just as bad defending against screens as the rest of the Lakers. |
Ingram has good man to man defense. Hart and Kuz are just red carpets to the rim and can’t defend off the ball either. |
I still think he gets beat with speed or strength too often. I see him get taken out of plays on defense, usually with screens. I think quicker guards don't need screens against him. He's an improvement over Kuzma and Hart, but not a complete solution. Like I said, I saw the same things in the Nets game that I did in past games where Ingram did play.
And, I think he does have a negative impact on offense. Him dominating the ball , going into ISO, and then shooting mid-range jumpers is just not a great option. And I think it takes the rest of the Lakers out of their games. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | Where’s your lineup ratings now nerds |
JaVale's lineup numbers are sitting pretty |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Missing McGee is a bigger factor than missing BI tbh. We're not deep enough to withstand all these injuries. |
Definitely.
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