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danzag
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Great great game
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governator
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Guarantee ESPN and FS1 wont talk about his play tomorrow. |
Who cares? 
As long as we know. |
would be nice for him to get some national attention rather than be trashed by them everyday as some after thought. |
Not yet, Get Up talking about referee personal vendetta against... Harden and Paul, lol, not making this up, Jalen said ‘it can be justified ‘ |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Guarantee ESPN and FS1 wont talk about his play tomorrow. |
Who cares?
As long as we know. |
would be nice for him to get some national attention rather than be trashed by them everyday as some after thought. |
Not yet, Get Up talking about referee personal vendetta against... Harden and Paul, lol, not making this up, Jalen said ‘it can be justified ‘ |
Reviewed the plays, now jalen said both harden charge and CP foul on BI are good calls |
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VicXLakers
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Guarantee ESPN and FS1 wont talk about his play tomorrow. |
Who cares?
As long as we know. |
would be nice for him to get some national attention rather than be trashed by them everyday as some after thought. |
Not yet, Get Up talking about referee personal vendetta against... Harden and Paul, lol, not making this up, Jalen said ‘it can be justified ‘ |
Reviewed the plays, now jalen said both harden charge and CP foul on BI are good calls |
doesn't matter...have to protect the shooter...how many times have we heard that when 70's porn gets knocked down?  |
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fansincemagic
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Guarantee ESPN and FS1 wont talk about his play tomorrow. |
Who cares?
As long as we know. |
I know this is a message board but that is so profound and something we need to remember, sig worthy |
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Yellow
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Last 18 games:
19.1 PPG
3.9 APG
5.6 RPG
2.6 TOPG
53/71/24 shooting splits
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| He’s actually getting close to making me not cringe when I know he’s going to the line. Keep it up Tiny! |
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yinoma2001
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Fantastic game by BI.
The 3 point game was a bit cringeworthy, but loved how relentless he was attacking the rim and the defensive energy! So long as BI/Kuz together can consistently approximate a 2nd option as a duo, we may have just enough firepower to make the playoffs.
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al242
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | He’s actually getting close to making me not cringe when I know he’s going to the line. Keep it up Tiny! |
LOL its sad because I can totally relate to this comment, I am still to the point where I expect him to brick at least one of his free throws.
He has certainly improved as the season has progressed. |
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lakersfan8
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | epak wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I disagree with the role player talk. It's just not how he's wired.
He's not going to be happy with being the 3rd or 4th best option on a championship squad. |
In the 4th, sprinkled in with his good play, he had that ISO where no one else touched the ball. Clank. Another possession, he ISOed Harden and got stripped in the lane. And another possession, he drove parallel to the baseline and got an offensive foul with an arm swing on Harden (semi flop).
If he gets rid of those moments, I'm all in for him being a #2. Of course he also shot 11-14 from the FT line. And that's not a norm. |
Uhh.. that doesn't have anything to do with what I said with all due respect.
I'm saying he doesn't have the mentality of a role player. Clearly he's not a complete package at this stage of his career, or a number 2. |
Agree. He is a good 3rd offensive option of a team at this stage but when LBJ deteriorates, Ingram will getting more and more responsibility. He fits the timeline well if we get the 2nd max |
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yinoma2001
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | epak wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I disagree with the role player talk. It's just not how he's wired.
He's not going to be happy with being the 3rd or 4th best option on a championship squad. |
In the 4th, sprinkled in with his good play, he had that ISO where no one else touched the ball. Clank. Another possession, he ISOed Harden and got stripped in the lane. And another possession, he drove parallel to the baseline and got an offensive foul with an arm swing on Harden (semi flop).
If he gets rid of those moments, I'm all in for him being a #2. Of course he also shot 11-14 from the FT line. And that's not a norm. |
Uhh.. that doesn't have anything to do with what I said with all due respect.
I'm saying he doesn't have the mentality of a role player. Clearly he's not a complete package at this stage of his career, or a number 2. |
Agree. He is a good 3rd offensive option of a team at this stage but when LBJ deteriorates, Ingram will getting more and more responsibility. He fits the timeline well if we get the 2nd max |
If the Lakers are hell bent on AD, then sadly it'll have to include BI. In any trade he will be sought, and if we punt to 2020, BI's 21m cap hold precludes signing AD outright as a FA.
So basically, it's AD or BI in either scenario for AD (trade or sign as a FA). 
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la4win
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Only thing left it the 3 point shooting. Need quicker release on those shots and I know in time he is going to fix it. |
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lakersfan8
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | epak wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | This is why I disagree with the role player talk. It's just not how he's wired.
He's not going to be happy with being the 3rd or 4th best option on a championship squad. |
In the 4th, sprinkled in with his good play, he had that ISO where no one else touched the ball. Clank. Another possession, he ISOed Harden and got stripped in the lane. And another possession, he drove parallel to the baseline and got an offensive foul with an arm swing on Harden (semi flop).
If he gets rid of those moments, I'm all in for him being a #2. Of course he also shot 11-14 from the FT line. And that's not a norm. |
Uhh.. that doesn't have anything to do with what I said with all due respect.
I'm saying he doesn't have the mentality of a role player. Clearly he's not a complete package at this stage of his career, or a number 2. |
Agree. He is a good 3rd offensive option of a team at this stage but when LBJ deteriorates, Ingram will getting more and more responsibility. He fits the timeline well if we get the 2nd max |
If the Lakers are hell bent on AD, then sadly it'll have to include BI. In any trade he will be sought, and if we punt to 2020, BI's 21m cap hold precludes signing AD outright as a FA.
So basically, it's AD or BI in either scenario for AD (trade or sign as a FA). |
Yea, this is why I am against getting AD unless we get another max player from free agency. |
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kikanga
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. 
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laker50
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Ingram might just be coming into a third star. He has had games where
he is.
And Kuzma has shown that also.
And for the rest of this year will combine to make a second option.
Trading the whole team for AD was the biggest mistake that Magic and
Pelinka did not make. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. |
Not possible because...they traded Zu for Muscala.
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yinoma2001
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. |
Not possible because...they traded Zu for Muscala. |
You mean as a trade asset substitute for AD? I don't think he's more valuable than BI.
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Jesusdelonla
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. |
Not possible because...they traded Zu for Muscala. |
You mean as a trade asset substitute for AD? I don't think he's more valuable than BI. |
Why is anybody trading for Ingram? When they have to pay him next summer? |
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kikanga
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| yinoma2001 wrote: |
If the Lakers are hell bent on AD, then sadly it'll have to include BI. In any trade he will be sought, and if we punt to 2020, BI's 21m cap hold precludes signing AD outright as a FA.
So basically, it's AD or BI in either scenario for AD (trade or sign as a FA). |
I'd prefer KD or Kawhi to AD. By a pretty large margin.
What's the salary cap expected to be in 2020? Could we move other players on the roster to clear up cap space if we wanted to keep him?
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yinoma2001
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. |
Not possible because...they traded Zu for Muscala. |
You mean as a trade asset substitute for AD? I don't think he's more valuable than BI. |
Why is anybody trading for Ingram? When they have to pay him next summer? |
It doesn't matter though. The Lakers still would have to move BI if they want to pursue AD as a FA in 2020.
I can't see any scenario minus trading LBJ out for little long term cap space coming back where BI/AD can be Lakers teammates.
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| Can we please stop talking about AD in BI’s thread. I for one would like it if his name was banned until he can become a free agent. Dude’s name has done enough damage to our team chemistry and the fan base already. Time to move on. Lebron says he likes his squad, I believe him. AD is going to be a Celtic. |
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| BigBoi wrote: | | Can we please stop talking about AD in BI’s thread. I for one would like it if his name was banned until he can become a free agent. Dude’s name has done enough damage to our team chemistry and the fan base already. Time to move on. Lebron says he likes his squad, I believe him. AD is going to be a Celtic. |
I'm with ya.
AD dreams died at trade deadline. And I'm glad they did. There are better FAs than him available THIS offseason. We could grab one of those guys AND still have Ingram (and the rest of our young core).
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Great great game
#LastManStanding |
Damn, you're right. With Zu gone. He's our longest tenured Laker. |
Holy cow. And out of our lottery picks, none have signed long term deals. Maybe BI can be the first, but it will be AD or BI and we've seen what this FO/Klutch values most, for better or worse.
I wish there was a scenario in which we could get AD AND keep BI. |
Not possible because...they traded Zu for Muscala. |
You mean as a trade asset substitute for AD? I don't think he's more valuable than BI. |
No, that they now have to include BI and Zo to make an AD trade work salary-wise (assuming they sign a max FA).
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| BigBoi wrote: | | Can we please stop talking about AD in BI’s thread. I for one would like it if his name was banned until he can become a free agent. Dude’s name has done enough damage to our team chemistry and the fan base already. Time to move on. Lebron says he likes his squad, I believe him. AD is going to be a Celtic. |
It's only relevant in the sense that I think Magic is going to go back to that AD well again, and might even punt a season for him.
BI's showing signs that he may be worth keeping long term. I really wish there was a way to get both.
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