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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject:

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It sounds like he has Paget-Schroetter syndrome.


Is that really bad?


https://journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/fulltext/2005/08000/Paget_Schroetter_Syndrome_in_an_Overhead_Athlete.7.aspx

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The athlete is now nearly 8 months postsurgery. He was cleared to return to upper body conditioning and participation in limited drills by 3 weeks after surgery. He completed a 3-month course of warfarin with an INR maintained between 2.0 and 3.0. Approximately 3 months postsurgery, he was given clearance for full athletic participation by his cardiovascular surgeon. He was able to begin preseason practice with the team approximately 4 months after surgery. He is currently participating in baseball and has resumed his position as starting outfielder. He has had no further complications.


Wow that’s great news.


As Baseball is less of a contact sport, I wonder if they allow players to play on blood thinners.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:34 pm    Post subject:

Is his carrer in jeopardy? SMH basketball gods hate us...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:37 pm    Post subject:

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So can we add this to the list of things our medical staff misdiagnosed/mistreated?


the medical staff is a big problem imo...


I don’t agree with this take. If this was due to trauma, the DVT wouldn’t develop immediately afterwards and so there’s almost no way they could’ve diagnosed it right away. Diagnosing it within a week of the injury is not a misdiagnosis. If it’s due to PSS (also known as VTOS), there is still no guarantee that the DVT was present when they initially checked his injury. Claiming that this is a misdiagnosing is simply not fair to the medical staff.

Some of us had this discussion on another thread, but I think (no insider knowledge, just my opinion) that we blame the medical staff for PR decisions. With Lebron’s injury and Lonzo’s injury, the correct diagnoses was made and they were always going to miss much more time than the Lakers PR team announced. Because the right diagnosis was made, this leads me to believe it’s a business decision (making it sound like players will be back sooner than they actually will be - and then extending how long they are out by “one week to reassess”). For instance, Lonzo had a grade 3 sprain and was always going to miss a significant amount of time - I’m not sure why the lakers PR team comes up with unrealistic return timeframes that just get fans’ hopes up.


I'm not basing my opinion on this case...it's been a problem for a few years now ...maybe a lot of it's pr but it's a problem for me
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:38 pm    Post subject:

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Is his carrer in jeopardy? SMH basketball gods hate us...


I highly doubt that his career is in jeopardy...the bball gods??? there is a curse
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject:

The_Dynasty24 wrote:
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So can we add this to the list of things our medical staff misdiagnosed/mistreated?


the medical staff is a big problem imo...


I don’t agree with this take...Some of us had this discussion on another thread, but I think (no insider knowledge, just my opinion) that we blame the medical staff for PR decisions.


I could not agree with this statement more...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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In b4 LeBron haters blame LeBron for causing blood blots fornhis teammates like Bosh and Ingram


LeBron was blamed for Bosh’s blood clots?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:52 pm    Post subject:

Prayers

This really sucks. We might really be cursed. When is the last time we had a healthy roster?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:52 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
The_Dynasty24 wrote:
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Don Draper wrote:
So can we add this to the list of things our medical staff misdiagnosed/mistreated?


the medical staff is a big problem imo...


I don’t agree with this take. If this was due to trauma, the DVT wouldn’t develop immediately afterwards and so there’s almost no way they could’ve diagnosed it right away. Diagnosing it within a week of the injury is not a misdiagnosis. If it’s due to PSS (also known as VTOS), there is still no guarantee that the DVT was present when they initially checked his injury. Claiming that this is a misdiagnosing is simply not fair to the medical staff.

Some of us had this discussion on another thread, but I think (no insider knowledge, just my opinion) that we blame the medical staff for PR decisions. With Lebron’s injury and Lonzo’s injury, the correct diagnoses was made and they were always going to miss much more time than the Lakers PR team announced. Because the right diagnosis was made, this leads me to believe it’s a business decision (making it sound like players will be back sooner than they actually will be - and then extending how long they are out by “one week to reassess”). For instance, Lonzo had a grade 3 sprain and was always going to miss a significant amount of time - I’m not sure why the lakers PR team comes up with unrealistic return timeframes that just get fans’ hopes up.


I'm not basing my opinion on this case...it's been a problem for a few years now


Just gonna ignore the major upgrade the medical staff had 3 seasons ago I assume?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
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In b4 LeBron haters blame LeBron for causing blood blots fornhis teammates like Bosh and Ingram


LeBron was blamed for Bosh’s blood clots?


from another thread

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how many more lives is LeBron going to ruin with his drama? Literally ruining lives...

Chris Bosh - CHECK
Kevin Love - CHECK
Brandon Ingram - CHECK
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:55 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
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In b4 LeBron haters blame LeBron for causing blood blots fornhis teammates like Bosh and Ingram


LeBron was blamed for Bosh’s blood clots?


from another thread

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how many more lives is LeBron going to ruin with his drama? Literally ruining lives...

Chris Bosh - CHECK
Kevin Love - CHECK
Brandon Ingram - CHECK


Kevin Love had blood clots?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject:

yup can't blame the medical staff on this one. This is something unfortunately that's get diagonsed out of luck given BI's age.

The biggest concern is how it's going to affect his playing career forward. Hopefully it's just a 1 time thing since his career is over if he gets another one.

Wish him the best.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
BigBallerBrand wrote:
In b4 LeBron haters blame LeBron for causing blood blots fornhis teammates like Bosh and Ingram


LeBron was blamed for Bosh’s blood clots?


from another thread

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how many more lives is LeBron going to ruin with his drama? Literally ruining lives...

Chris Bosh - CHECK
Kevin Love - CHECK
Brandon Ingram - CHECK


Kevin Love had blood clots?


yeah...that's why I left the poster unnamed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:06 pm    Post subject:

probably referring to kevin love's mental health
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:20 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
probably referring to kevin love's mental health


he would be wrong there too...

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For a team that has been near the cellar of the Eastern Conference all year and is focused on getting younger pieces substantial playing experience, having both the young guys and veterans dialed in and still competing at a high level every night is a plus.


Kevin Love and the Cleveland Cavaliers are enjoying the moment
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:21 pm    Post subject:

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probably referring to kevin love's mental health


And Ty Lue's.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:44 pm    Post subject:

So if he is forced to retire, do we get the cap space freed up automatically?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject:

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Pray for a full speedy receover and hopefully this is just a one-off, but if it is a career ender, how does medical retirement affect our cap space situation?


I guess we'd be able to punt one more year and sign AD as a free agent without having to give up anyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Don't know if this was posted already, but some good information from this Dr. on DVT, specifically of the shoulder. He does not know anything about BI's case, but a good listen on DVT in general.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject:

Get well soon, BI!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject:

Good luck to BI, and hope for a speedy recovery. I see there is no let up from the basketball Gods. Simply unbelievable.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:22 pm    Post subject:

Prayers Up for BI!

🙏🙏🙏🏀🏀🏀
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject:

TMG wrote:
Is his carrer in jeopardy? SMH basketball gods hate us...


You make your own luck. After all the young talent they pissed away, this one might be lost without Magic's incompetence.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject:

I bet Mannix, Celtics fans, Pelicans fans, Mason Ginsberg, TheBirdWrites and other terrible bloggers are loving this right now. We’ll keep BI and support him through this. (bleep) everyone else.
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